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Originally Posted By John
I actually think Democrats are usually pretty retarded, it's just that Blumpf is 1000x more retarded and the GOP are a bunch of spineless do nothings.

After Blumpf won in 2016 he could have delivered a death blow to the Dems by cleaning up his act and working on infrastructure, jobs and curbing mmigration (real immigration solutions not that dumb half ass travel ban).

Instead he tripled down on the stupid and sabotaged his presidency from before he even took office.
Good points.

Honestly, Democrats kind of lucked into Trump being such a moron. If Trump actually bothered to learn strategy and gain self control, he would've easily won 2020.

2020 was actually a very close election, and if Trump just pretended to be empathetic for 6 months before the election he easily wins again.
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4
Good points.

Honestly, Democrats kind of lucked into Trump being such a moron. If Trump actually bothered to learn strategy and gain self control, he would've easily won 2020.

2020 was actually a very close election, and if Trump just pretended to be empathetic for 6 months before the election he easily wins again.
He cant win now though right lol.
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Originally Posted By Abzu
He cant win now though right lol.
2022 elections prove that. Those were a disaster.

Ironically if Trump conceded 2020 and focused on a comeback he could have easily won 2024. Instead he sabotaged himself.
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Originally Posted By Abzu
Lol.

I don't believe polls or experts.

Explain how DeSantis is going to beat The Man who had 89% republican approval before he "lost" an election and had 87% approval after he "lost"? Please don't trap yourself here. I know what you are thinking.
Why would I explain that? I already said he's not going to beat Blumpf.
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4
Kari Lake ran in 2022, not 2016
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Originally Posted By Stizzel
lol
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Originally Posted By John
Why would I explain that? I already said he's not going to beat Blumpf.
You made a claim, I figured you would have no problem backing it up, I don't know why I thought that lol.

Now you are probably going to say, "I didn't say he would beat Trump, I said he was a threat" lol.

Save that sht and just explain why DeSantis is a threat to The Man lol.

Originally Posted By Noliberals4
2022 elections prove that. Those were a disaster.

Ironically if Trump conceded 2020 and focused on a comeback he could have easily won 2024. Instead he sabotaged himself.
Donald Trump didn't run for office in 2022 lol.
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Originally Posted By Abzu
Donald Trump didn't run for office in 2022 lol.
Trumpers got rocked in 2022. Biden, despite his negative ratings, killed it in the 2022 midterm elections.
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Originally Posted By Abzu
You made a claim, I figured you would have no problem backing it up, I don't know why I thought that lol.

Now you are probably going to say, "I didn't say he would beat Trump, I said he was a threat" lol.

Save that sht and just explain why DeSantis is a threat to The Man lol.
You Biden supporters sure are sensitive. You guys short circuit if there's even a suggestion that there may be a chance that someone can perform well against Blumpf, even if they won't beat him.

Prior to the indictment, the polls were showing Desantis and Blumpf to be very close. Post-indictment, not so much. If DeSantis runs, he'll win some states and be competitive in the ones he loses, but Blumpf will definitely win the primary.
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4
Trumpers got rocked in 2022. Biden, despite his negative ratings, killed it in the 2022 midterm elections.
I don't know how we got rocked when many us didn't even vote lol, the GOP ate a dick though.
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Originally Posted By Abzu
I don't know how we got rocked when many us didn't even vote lol, Trump ate a dick though.
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Originally Posted By John
You Biden supporters sure are sensitive. You guys short circuit if there's even a suggestion that there may be a chance that someone can perform well against Blumpf, even if they won't beat him.

Prior to the indictment, the polls were showing Desantis and Blumpf to be very close. Post-indictment, not so much. If DeSantis runs, he'll win some states and be competitive in the ones he loses, but Blumpf will definitely win the primary.
So your whole basis to believe that DeSantis would beat Trump, who had 87% approval after losing an election, is based on polls?

Now after Trump has been made vulnerable in a general election by political-criminal indictment, you think DeSantis has no shot?

If DeSantis becomes the nominee it won't be because of him, it will be because Trump is under indictment or worse.

Originally Posted By Noliberals4
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Lol.
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Originally Posted By Abzu
So your whole basis to believe that DeSantis would beat Trump, who had 87% approval after losing an election, is based on polls?

Now after Trump has been made vulnerable in a general election by political-criminal indictment, you think DeSantis has no shot?

If DeSantis becomes the nominee it won't be because of him, it will be because Trump is under indictment or worse.
Uhh dude. What do you think Blumpf's 87% approval is base on?

I'm not sure you thought this one through lmao
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Originally Posted By Abzu
Lol.
I am actually interested in why you think Trump has a shot in 2024.
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Originally Posted By John
Uhh dude. What do you think Blumpf's 87% approval is base on?

I'm not sure you thought this one through lmao
Can't believe you are this dumb lol srs.

I don't think you thought this one out lol.

Did you forgot when I said I know what you are thinking lol?
Originally Posted By Abzu
Lol.

I don't believe polls or experts.

Explain how DeSantis is going to beat The Man who had 89% republican approval before he "lost" an election and had 87% approval after he "lost"? Please don't trap yourself here. I know what you are thinking.
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Originally Posted By Abzu
Can't believe you are this dumb lol srs.

I don't think you thought this one out lol.

Did you forgot when I said I know what you are thinking lol?
"Lol moron, your whole basis to believe that Desantis would beat Blumpf (even though you already said he wouldn't, I'm just going to make chit up) is based on polls. He won't beat him, because Blumpf has an 87% approval rating based on polls"

Biden supporter logic lmao
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Originally Posted By John
"Lol moron, your whole basis to believe that Desantis would beat Blumpf (even though you already said he wouldn't, I'm just going to make chit up) is based on polls. He won't beat him, because Blumpf has an 87% approval rating based on polls"

Biden supporter logic lmao
Lol you forgot the part where I said I dont believe in polls lol.
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Originally Posted By Abzu
Lol you forgot the part where I said I dont believe in polls unless they favor Trump lol.
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4
ftfy
You a funny mfer lol
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Originally Posted By Abzu
Lol you forgot the part where I said I dont believe in polls lol.
His approval rating is based on poll. You realize this correct?
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4
I am actually interested in why you think Trump has a shot in 2024.
Trump is way ahead of the election game compared to other republicans. He's already got a ballot harvesting campaign running.
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Originally Posted By John
His approval rating is based on poll. You realize this correct?
Yes and I don't believe that poll either lol.
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Originally Posted By Abzu
Yes and I don't believe that poll either lol.
So you keep citing this supposedly not credible poll as a counterpoint because.....?
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Originally Posted By John
So you keep citing this supposedly not credible poll as a counterpoint because.....?
Well, there are a few reasons for this John.

You believe in polls, so if you believe DeSantis was polling well against Trump then you also believe Trump has extremely high approval ratings among republicans, DeSantis would have to threaten that to be a threat to Trump.

I generally don't believe polls are in the margin of error and can be easily manipulated to manipulate public opinion. Take Donald Trumps pre and post election approval for example, I believe Donald Trump has high approval among republicans, I just don't necessarily believe it was below 90% or that it went down after he "lost" the election. Look at Biden's approval ratings, yes I agree it's below 50% but I also don't believe it's above 30%.



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imagine being so retarded that you think the 2024 primary is already over like kari lake lmao.


she thinks the 24 primary is over, but believes 2022 is still ongoing.
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Originally Posted By Mountaineer92
imagine being so retarded that you think the 2024 primary is already over like kari lake lmao.


she thinks the 24 primary is over, but believes 2022 is still ongoing.
John Lol thinks it's already over so I guess your post makes sense lol.

I think the indictment opened the door for Ron.

I'd say the primary is still open.
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Originally Posted By Abzu
Well, there are a few reasons for this John.

You believe in polls, so if you believe DeSantis was polling well against Trump then you also believe Trump has extremely high approval ratings among republicans, DeSantis would have to threaten that to be a threat to Trump.

I generally don't believe polls are in the margin of error and can be easily manipulated to manipulate public opinion. Take Donald Trumps pre and post election approval for example, I believe Donald Trump has high approval among republicans, I just don't necessarily believe it was below 90% or that it went down after he "lost" the election. Look at Biden's approval ratings, yes I agree it's below 50% but I also don't believe it's above 30%.



Do you understand now?
You realize that the two are not mutually exclusive, right? When asked the question "do you approve of Blumpf" you can answer yes, but still have a different primary election preference. I believe that he has high approval among Republicans, but also there are a chunk who would prefer DeSantis to him. Approval/disapproval doesn't give the entire picture. For example if I were answering a poll in 2020 and was asked if I approve of Blumpfs job I would have answered no, even though I knew I would vote for him.

So yes I believe he has high approval ratings, and I believe that pre-indictment DeSantis would have been a legitimate primary challenger.
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Originally Posted By John
You realize that the two are not mutually exclusive, right? When asked the question "do you approve of Blumpf" you can answer yes, but still have a different primary election preference. I believe that he has high approval among Republicans, but also there are a chunk who would prefer DeSantis to him. Approval/disapproval doesn't give the entire picture. For example if I were answering a poll in 2020 and was asked if I approve of Blumpfs job I would have answered no, even though I knew I would vote for him.

So yes I believe he has high approval ratings, and I believe that pre-indictment DeSantis would have been a legitimate primary challenger.




You don't know when you are defeated, I guess we will have to continue this later, =[.
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You don't know when you are defeated, I guess we will have to continue this later, =[.
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Originally Posted By Abzu
John Lol thinks it's already over so I guess your post makes sense lol.

I think the indictment opened the door for Ron.

I'd say the primary is still open.
Hard to say. Ron hasn't announced yet.

But as of right now, Trump has about an 80% chance of winning the nomination. I'd go as far as to say 95%+.
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