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Thread: Daily reminder you were grifted about the vax

post 1683112953 05-21-2023, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted By Banderistan⏩
The vaccines only include part of the spike protein. They also does not produce them in the same quantity as an infected person would. So you are still reducing your risk by exposing yourself to that protein fragment first prior to being exposed to covid, assuming you'll be exposed.

This is absent any other bullchitting. I'm saying even if we assume everything else that guy said is true (It isn't), the argument still fails miserably.
'The Spike Protein from the ClotShot gets into the cell nucleus, this does not happen with natural infection..we have been over this. Old Dominion injected the spike alone without it’s Corona companion into humanized mice. The mice experienced all the worst symptoms people do. Salk and university of California SD have also shown this. It creates and exacerbates vascular diseases. There are plenty of others and it’s pretty obvious by now.

It's exactly why all you MudBloods keep getting sick over, and over, and over again..while us PureBloods stay healthy. I'm in San Diego, CA..I deal with 100's of people daily in my business..I see it over and over again.

You ****ed yourself, just own up to it already


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It's very amusing observing low IQ jabbies who are too stubborn to admit they were just gullible retards

Imagine still defending the jab lol
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
That's because you are playing dumb, and pretending to not see my point.

I'm OK with that though, as it just makes you look dumb, and doesn't affect me.

Also, it's not "my page", that's the CDC webpage, on what they recommend.
Why don't you explicitly make your point using a declarative statement rather than a question? Seriously. Make a fuking argument.
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Originally Posted By Banderistan⏩
The vaccines only include part of the spike protein. They also does not produce them in the same quantity as an infected person would. So you are still reducing your risk by exposing yourself to that protein fragment first prior to being exposed to covid, assuming you'll be exposed.

This is absent any other bullchitting. I'm saying even if we assume everything else that guy said is true (It isn't), the argument still fails miserably.
Again, what you are proposing as a potential benefit of the injections [priming the immune system] at best might have been of minor benefit to highly vulnerable people when the virus was novel to the population.

It is no longer a novel virus. Healthy people with good immune systems didn't need "priming" anyway. The shots never kept up with the circulating variant.

And at no point did they truly protect from infection. In pharma's own studies they found that for the first couple of weeks after getting the shots you had a higher likelihood of getting infected which is probably why they jacked around with the time frame for measuring "efficacy".

It was all BS. Or at least 99% BS if you want to allow a teeny bit of usefulness for a small segment of the population for a limited time period.

Widespread injections with a non-sterilizing vaccine during an active pandemic was dumb as hell.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Pretty sure he would remember getting jabbed.
But in his implication = golden sperm.


When a sperm bank or 25yo katyas are looking for unvaxed sperm how will they know if someone is lying?
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Originally Posted By SuperHercules⏩
It's very amusing observing low IQ jabbies who are too stubborn to admit they were just gullible retards

Imagine still defending the jab lol
I havent had any jab I am just relaying what BS comes from grifters.
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
But in his implication = golden sperm.


When a sperm bank or 25yo katyas are looking for unvaxed sperm how will they know if someone is lying?
Some smart gal will figure it out.



Maybe test for the lipid nano particle.
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
Some smart gal will figure it out.



Maybe test for the lipid nano particle.
anything definitive that wouldn't show up in both covid non-naive and jabbed???

Lmao
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
Again, what you are proposing as a potential benefit of the injections [priming the immune system] at best might have been of minor benefit to highly vulnerable people when the virus was novel to the population.

It is no longer a novel virus. Healthy people with good immune systems didn't need "priming" anyway. The shots never kept up with the circulating variant.

And at no point did they truly protect from infection. In pharma's own studies they found that for the first couple of weeks after getting the shots you had a higher likelihood of getting infected which is probably why they jacked around with the time frame for measuring "efficacy".

It was all BS. Or at least 99% BS if you want to allow a teeny bit of usefulness for a small segment of the population for a limited time period.

Widespread injections with a non-sterilizing vaccine during an active pandemic was dumb as hell.
It's of benefit to everyone with an immune system. The virus killed like 2000 kids, madam. Tons of people died. Nonzero is not zero. Small percentages still matter. The vaccines reduce overall risk by priming your immune system. And again, when the vaccines came out, they were very good against the circulating strains.
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
anything definitive that wouldn't show up in both covid non-naive and jabbed???

Lmao
Why would the non-injected have LNP concentrated in their liver and/or reproductive organs though?

Could be that "they" are on to that one though as I've read they have been injecting it into pork sinc 2018 and seem to literally want to put mrna crap in everything.

https://yournews.com/2023/04/11/2552...stock-vaccine/






If it's super safe to eat bugs and meat injected with mrna then why not make that stuff clear in labeling?

Also this:







^^^
A super massive lie requires a super massive cover up.

The gaslighting of the population has been intense. Every possible reason for excess deaths getting trotted out *except for the obvious never done before in the history of the world mass vaccinations with a poorly tested and manufactured injections*, which absolutely can't have anything to do with it.
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
Why would the non-injected have LNP concentrated in their liver and/or reproductive organs though?

Could be that "they" are on to that one though as I've read they have been injecting it into pork sinc 2018 and seem to literally want to put mrna crap in everything.

https://yournews.com/2023/04/11/2552...stock-vaccine/






If it's super safe to eat bugs and meat injected with mrna then why not make that stuff clear in labeling?

Also this:







^^^
A super massive lie requires a super massive cover up.

The gaslighting of the population has been intense. Every possible reason for excess deaths getting trotted out *except for the obvious never done before in the history of the world mass vaccinations with a poorly tested and manufactured injections*, which absolutely can't have anything to do with it.
Excess deaths were way up before the vaccines even came out. Why would you think it was the vaccines rather than the virus?
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Originally Posted By Banderistan⏩
It's of benefit to everyone with an immune system. The virus killed like 2000 kids, madam. Tons of people died. Nonzero is not zero. Small percentages still matter. The vaccines reduce overall risk by priming your immune system. And again, when the vaccines came out, they were very good against the circulating strains.
You keep throwing out that "2000 kids" number with no source or support. How many of those kids died FROM covid and not from some other illness or injury? How many of those who did die FROM covid were in poor health prior to infection? How many of those kids who died FROM covid died due to poor medical treatment and not from the disease itself?




I know you have family in the medical field and that maybe makes you more protective of them as "smart and good people". But this was a massive operation and I don't think that good/bad is so easy to define for people who were in a profession where speaking or acting against the chosen narrative would be detrimental to their career. Some probably were never critical thinkers anyway and just do whatever their boss or the electronic system says to do. Some justified their choices as the lesser evil or simply weren't willing or able to quit their jobs.
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
You keep throwing out that "2000 kids" number with no source or support. How many of those kids died FROM covid and not from some other illness or injury? How many of those who did die FROM covid were in poor health prior to infection? How many of those kids who died FROM covid died due to poor medical treatment and not from the disease itself?




I know you have family in the medical field and that maybe makes you more protective of them as "smart and good people". But this was a massive operation and I don't think that good/bad is so easy to define for people who were in a profession where speaking or acting against the chosen narrative would be detrimental to their career. Some probably were never critical thinkers anyway and just do whatever their boss or the electronic system says to do. Some justified their choices as the lesser evil or simply weren't willing or able to quit their jobs.
Have you ever considered the possibility you might be wrong?

https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisiona...-Yea/nr4s-juj3

For deaths.
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Originally Posted By Banderistan⏩
Excess deaths were way up before the vaccines even came out. Why would you think it was the vaccines rather than the virus?
Oh come on.

This is simply false. And the excess deaths I'm referring to now are "excess non-covid natural deaths" meaning people who are not infected with covid and did not die due to an overdose, accident, murder, suicide, etc. They passed from some natural cause.








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Lots of normal people got jabbed. In 2023 only complete losers still defend it.

Get boosted fgts.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Again?
Isnt winnie not up to date? I thot he trusted the science and his lord Fauci.
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
Oh come on.

This is simply false. And the excess deaths I'm referring to now are "excess non-covid natural deaths" meaning people who are not infected with covid and did not die due to an overdose, accident, murder, suicide, etc. They passed from some natural cause.]
I'm not entirely sold on the source as this is some random twitter graph. But giving it the benefit of the doubt, it makes sense that given the short supply of healthcare and people missing preventive screenings that that would also contribute to an increase in excess deaths. You think it is the vaccines? On what grounds? Can you causally link the vaccines to any deaths? The J&J one was linked to 9 deaths total. Pfizer and Moderna to 0 afaik.
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I've seen too many people with messed up side effects to realize the vaccine is not safe, however regardless of Covid or the vaccine, we should expect to see excess deaths around this time (2020-present).

Death numbers SHOULD be going up at this time, with a 78 year average life expectancy and considering the world wide crash and then the huge boom in the 40's. The demographics alone would have given us higher deaths (2020) with an expectation of it rising over the next three or four years based solely on the fact that those born at the height of the post-war boom (1946-1952) are now reaching the statistical probability of death.

We would see a natural jump right now if only due to this fact of demographics. If this is fraud they timed it perfectly to obfuscate this demographic reality. An excess mortality rate assumes there is excess mortality and doesn't prove it, and again, the data is put together by the same people with vested interests in proving a Covid 19 epidemic...
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Originally Posted By Paul
I've seen too many people with messed up side effects to realize the vaccine is not safe, however regardless of Covid or the vaccine, we should expect to see excess deaths around this time (2020-present).

Death numbers SHOULD be going up at this time, with a 78 year average life expectancy and considering the world wide crash and then the huge boom in the 40's. The demographics alone would have given us higher deaths (2020) with an expectation of it rising over the next three or four years based solely on the fact that those born at the height of the post-war boom (1946-1952) are now reaching the statistical probability of death.

We would see a natural jump right now if only due to this fact of demographics. If this is fraud they timed it perfectly to obfuscate this demographic reality. An excess mortality rate assumes there is excess mortality and doesn't prove it, and again, the data is put together by the same people with vested interests in proving a Covid 19 epidemic...
Excess deaths and death rates as compared to the year prior. Your demographic argument makes no sense.

Uggh why am I replying to Anachron, Katya, or Paul in a covid thread?
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Any insight on why you decided to go against the CDC's recommendations and decided not to take the 3rd and 4th doses, putting your community at risk?
We've been over this. I took what was recommended to me by my doctor and available to me.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
And that is a lie.

But I'll entertain it...

Recommended by your doctor
Available to you

Which one is it?
okay

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Originally Posted By Banderistan⏩
I'm not entirely sold on the source as this is some random twitter graph. But giving it the benefit of the doubt, it makes sense that given the short supply of healthcare and people missing preventive screenings that that would also contribute to an increase in excess deaths. You think it is the vaccines? On what grounds? Can you causally link the vaccines to any deaths? The J&J one was linked to 9 deaths total. Pfizer and Moderna to 0 afaik.
You can check out his work. He has analytical qualification, has been tracking the data for a long while now, and shares his methods openly.

And he has put up facts which contraindicate that this is merely due to a lack of healthcare or delayed healthcare. The one I recall most is that while overall cancer has increased massively the types that increased are not the same as prior the vaccines. A couple of the most common fatal cancers decreased while some other types increased which can't be explained by delayed diagnosis.
Originally Posted By Paul
I've seen too many people with messed up side effects to realize the vaccine is not safe, however regardless of Covid or the vaccine, we should expect to see excess deaths around this time (2020-present).

Death numbers SHOULD be going up at this time, with a 78 year average life expectancy and considering the world wide crash and then the huge boom in the 40's. The demographics alone would have given us higher deaths (2020) with an expectation of it rising over the next three or four years based solely on the fact that those born at the height of the post-war boom (1946-1952) are now reaching the statistical probability of death.

We would see a natural jump right now if only due to this fact of demographics. If this is fraud they timed it perfectly to obfuscate this demographic reality. An excess mortality rate assumes there is excess mortality and doesn't prove it, and again, the data is put together by the same people with vested interests in proving a Covid 19 epidemic...
Again, check The Ethical Skeptic if you care to. He does include age factors in his analysis. Also the reason Ed Dowd became so concerned with the excess death is that 1] if the weakest/sickest/oldest were killed by the virus then we should see *fewer* people in that cohort passing now since you can't die twice and 2] the crazy increase in deaths of healthy working age people as per group life insurance payouts, meaning that it isn't just more old/sick people kicking.
Originally Posted By Banderistan⏩
Excess deaths and death rates as compared to the year prior. Your demographic argument makes no sense.

Uggh why am I replying to Anachron, Katya, or Paul in a covid thread?
Yeah, good point.
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
You can check out his work. He has analytical qualification, has been tracking the data for a long while now, and shares his methods openly.

And he has put up facts which contraindicate that this is merely due to a lack of healthcare or delayed healthcare. The one I recall most is that while overall cancer has increased massively the types that increased are not the same as prior the vaccines. A couple of the most common fatal cancers decreased while some other types increased which can't be explained by delayed diagnosis.




Again, check The Ethical Skeptic if you care to. He does include age factors in his analysis. Also the reason Ed Dowd became so concerned with the excess death is that 1] if the weakest/sickest/oldest were killed by the virus then we should see *fewer* people in that cohort passing now since you can't die twice and 2] the crazy increase in deaths of healthy working age people as per group life insurance payouts, meaning that it isn't just more old/sick people kicking.




Yeah, good point.

I need to go make some sandwiches. Or something. lol




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There could be other factors at play but still related to the changes due to lockdowns or even secondary to covid infection.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
I mean, for both of those to be true, you have to satisfy the following requirements:

Your doctor, for the duration of time between January 2022 and September 2022, was explicitly recommending that you do not take the boosters ( I.e. he would be considered an "anti vaxxer" in your eyes ), and
Your area had no booster doses available between January 2022 and September 2022.

Just LOL at the pseudointellectual resorting to acting dumb.
When was the first booster recommended for all age groups?
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Originally Posted By Banderistan⏩
Yes it did, dipchit.
And now you're spreading misinformation??? Talk about a new low.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
You mean you don't know?
Do you? If you do, please share.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
And now you're spreading misinformation??? Talk about a new low.
Oh look it's Dave, great.
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Originally Posted By Banderistan⏩
People are shocked by irrational and stupid behaviors. It's like that fuktard that eats raw chicken. You can do it. You'll probably survive. But it's disgusting and you are putting your health at risk for no reason.
If you already had the Rona, why get the jab?

And why take something that was rushed out in 6 months, and people were taking it the wrong way for an entire year. Why take something that would require numerous booster shots?
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Originally Posted By Banderistan⏩
We've been over this. I took what was recommended to me by my doctor and available to me.
Your doctor said get the jab, and then the second dose 3 weeks later. Turns out he was wrong.
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