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post 1683278573 05-23-2023, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted By bicmane102
that's dumb. you are a really small minded person from what i gathered in this thread. srs

like you are unable to put yourself in other persons shoes type of person, and thinks everyone handles things the same. small minded
Put myself into what? That idiot's life has been on easy mode from the beginning. He's so used to having everything handed to him that he's unwilling to put any work towards bettering himself. The ****git doesn't even have a job.

When is enough enough? He's not gonna change. All he's doing is making society worse. He's taken to making mass murder threats lately. It's only a matter of time till he decides to shoot random innocent people. It's time to cull these retards.
Originally Posted By wigwogzigzog
He needs a transformation. A rebirth. A resurrection. Is it possible for an incel so deep in the hole? Maybe not. But I'd like to think he could pull off.
Of course he could, all it takes is a bit of work. But he won't do that.
Originally Posted By rollerball
at this point he needs Avatar technology to put his consciousness into a giant blue chad
We don't have that tech yet, but we have the next best thing. A bat to the face. Incelism is a disease of the mind, but it spreads like monkeypox. There's only one way to fix the incel problem. It's a final solution of sorts.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824
I find it difficult to respect people that don't respect themselves. And BBMG, along with the rest of the incels are people who don't respect themselves. Can't even really call them men. And if we're gonna be honest, I don't believe he has an ivy league degree either.
This is my biggest issue with incels, the self deprecation. I struck out with women countless times, never once have I called myself a loser. Wtf sort of weak defeatist attitude is that to have towards yourself? Ill never respect anyone that fishes for pity like these ****0ts, chit disgusts me. You cant call yourself a man when you think that low of yourself. Its weak, and nobody respects weak ppl, let alone women
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Originally Posted By koreannoodles77
This is my biggest issue with incels, the self deprecation. I struck out with women countless times, never once have I called myself a loser. Wtf sort of weak defeatist attitude is that to have towards yourself?
guys like that are 100% that way because of difficult lives/environments growing up.

sometimes life is truly too much to bear for some people.

if you're life is really tough, and you have no support system or idea how to get out of it, you don't get better, you get worse.

so.

is it right to be cruel to these people? lol
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Originally Posted By bicmane102
guys like that are 100% that way because of difficult lives/environments growing up.

sometimes life is truly too much to bear for some people.

if you're life is really tough, and you have no support system or idea how to get out of it, you don't get better, you get worse.

so.

is it right to be cruel to these people? lol
What was hard about his life exactly? If anything his life has been too easy, so as soon as he faces even a little bit of adversity he turns into a cuck. It's embarrassing.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
I like your breakdown, thats how I think of it except when you do it accurately the numbers are closer to zero.

like 99% of women reject a 5'3 black unattractive man out of the gate.
Look man however you want to run the numbers the point is there are women for you. They exist. My suggestion is you shoot internationally, because that's likely where you'll find the highest concentration of them. Specifically the countries I mentioned.

Not to say a 5'1" black cashier in Walmart is out of your reach. You should spit cold game on them, every chance you get, because yeah your chances are $hit on dating apps in the US.

I'll never know what it's like to be in your situation but I do know what it's like to be rejected and have dry spells. So I feel for you.

But in addition to the moneymaxx/greencard game, I suggest you change your mentality because nobody wants to date someone who thinks 99% of women will reject them, even if it's true. Instead, using the same/similar metrics if you think 'there's hundred's of thousands of women (probably more) out there who will date you' <--- that's a much more appealing perspective to be around. And it's the same thing. That's not some "just be confident bro" advice. It's about taking the crappy hand you've been dealt and making the most of it so you win the game, or at least have a chance, however slim it may be. Everybody routes for the underdog. So start routing for yourself. Because wallowing in your own self pity is only making your situation worse than it is.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824
What was hard about his life exactly? If anything his life has been too easy, so as soon as he faces even a little bit of adversity he turns into a cuck. It's embarrassing.
dude real talk. it must be hard to be a 5'3 guy.

if you didn't have a good environment to grow up and give you a healthy self-esteem, i can see people being crushed when they get older and realize most people see them as a joke.

pretty sure none of my previous gf's wouldv'e dated me if i was 5'3. or had nearly the amount of female attention that i've had.
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Originally Posted By bicmane102
guys like that are 100% that way because of difficult lives/environments growing up.

sometimes life is truly too much to bear for some people.

if you're life is really tough, and you have no support system or idea how to get out of it, you don't get better, you get worse.

so.

is it right to be cruel to these people? lol
I don't hate on people that need help. I needed support at points throughout my life, like everyone else

Difference is these people don't want help, they want to drag everyone else down to their misery instead. Incels are some of the most hard headed fuktards I've seen

They don't want to get better, they want the world to accommodate to their needs instead. Thats not how life or reality works.
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Originally Posted By imbored21


Men are struggling. Even our man Dan admits it. Check out last minute.
Lol @ using F&F as a reference.

just lol
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Originally Posted By bicmane102
dude real talk. it must be hard to be a 5'3 guy.

if you didn't have a good environment to grow up and give you a healthy self-esteem, i can see people being crushed when they get older and realize most people see them as a joke.

pretty sure none of my previous gf's wouldv'e dated me if i was 5'3. or had nearly the amount of female attention that i've had.
I'm friends with a personal trainer who's 5'4. He has a cute as hell gf his height and had no trouble getting girls his height or slightly above when single. Granted, his face is decent, but point is there are things BBMG can do.
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Originally Posted By bicmane102
dude real talk. it must be hard to be a 5'3 guy.

if you didn't have a good environment to grow up and give you a healthy self-esteem, i can see people being crushed when they get older and realize most people see them as a joke.

pretty sure none of my previous gf's wouldv'e dated me if i was 5'3. or had nearly the amount of female attention that i've had.
Let me tell you a story. I joined the military at 17. I was a lean 210 pounds at 6'2. I've never really needed to ask women out till then, they would come to me, but me stuff, ask me out. In basic training I met a guy who was about 5'6, hispanic, his face was straight up the hook nosed jew caricature. He was balding, and he was very skinny. He has a habit of crouching and he has a bit of a hunchback, so everyone started calling him "my precious".

The first day we were allowed out of base, the first fuking day, this guy bagged a super cute redheaded white girl, he literally met her on base, they talked for an hour, he took her to a motel, fuked her, and they were back before formation that same night. We found out about this because he took his shirt off in the barracks and his back was scratched up.

I was shocked, but I hadn't seen the girl, the next day when I saw them together my whole world shattered. I still think about him to this day, and this happened 14 years ago.

After seeing that, BBMG crying like a bitch and giving up is weak as fuk.
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Originally Posted By Banderistan
I was crying and real into it. Then you started talking about Stalin


All good points though. Lol
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Originally Posted By wigwogzigzog
I was crying and real into it. Then you started talking about Stalin


All good points though. Lol
lmao
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Originally Posted By Banderistan
lmao
Wincel, just STFU with this Stalin bullchit. And then suck my dick
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824
Let me tell you a story. I joined the military at 17. I was a lean 210 pounds at 6'2. I've never really needed to ask women out till then, they would come to me, but me stuff, ask me out. In basic training I met a guy who was about 5'6, hispanic, his face was straight up the hook nosed jew caricature. He was balding, and he was very skinny. He has a habit of crouching and he has a bit of a hunchback, so everyone started calling him "my precious".

The first day we were allowed out of base, the first fuking day, this guy bagged a super cute redheaded white girl, he literally met her on base, they talked for an hour, he took her to a motel, fuked her, and they were back before formation that same night. We found out about this because he took his shirt off in the barracks and his back was scratched up.

I was shocked, but I hadn't seen the girl, the next day when I saw them together my whole world shattered. I still think about him to this day, and this happened 14 years ago.

After seeing that, BBMG crying like a bitch and giving up is weak as fuk.
I remember going to the club at around 2 am and there was literally one cute sloot left there (and a few mediocre ones). One latino dude was trying to chat her up, and she makes eye contact with me while talking to the dude. I simply make a gesture for her to come over and make out with her instantly while the entire club is watching us.

I'm sure most dudes in the club had never seen anything like that before in their real life. Some Asian dude pulling a gigachad move in the club and taking a girl back home within a few minutes of talking while everyone in the club is watching.

I wasn't even paying attention to what was happening around me at the time, but I only found out later when my buddy texted me saying "Dude, literally everyone in the club was looking at you." Lmao. Good times.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824
Let me tell you a story. I joined the military at 17. I was a lean 210 pounds at 6'2. I've never really needed to ask women out till then, they would come to me, but me stuff, ask me out. In basic training I met a guy who was about 5'6, hispanic, his face was straight up the hook nosed jew caricature. He was balding, and he was very skinny. He has a habit of crouching and he has a bit of a hunchback, so everyone started calling him "my precious".

The first day we were allowed out of base, the first fuking day, this guy bagged a super cute redheaded white girl, he literally met her on base, they talked for an hour, he took her to a motel, fuked her, and they were back before formation that same night. We found out about this because he took his shirt off in the barracks and his back was scratched up.

I was shocked, but I hadn't seen the girl, the next day when I saw them together my whole world shattered. I still think about him to this day, and this happened 14 years ago.

After seeing that, BBMG crying like a bitch and giving up is weak as fuk.
Yeah Latino guys usually aren't that tall but they still find a way to be overly confident and pull. I knew so many kids like this in hs and college. Even short black guys who delude themselves into being bigger than they really are. Call it cocky but at least they get results. With BBM it's 100% mindset but he doesn't even wanna follow the simple advice of spending 30 days off misc.
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BBMG, I don't know what you get out of these threads. I get being pissed about not getting laid. But it's like if you don't have a 10 page flame war going, you have to start another one, and it's just the same people writing the same posts over and over and over.

So what's your end game with these threads? When you jump into another "I'm a 5'3" incel" thread, what do you get pumped to see another miscer write? Don't tell us, just be honest with yourself.
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After reading all the hate on the first page I’ve concluded that most of you really don’t deserve to have nice countries to live in and be free men.

Someone asks a question of how to improve themselves and you hate and shun them.

OK then you get a society of degenerate misanthropes. You got what you asked for and encouraged.

You talk about you have to go to a foreign country as far away as possible from other western men to find a good women then refer to them as “banging sloots”.

Thats what got your women into the situation they are in in the first place.

I got news for you childish “bodybuilding” beauty pageant contestants.

Men make the countries not the women. If you dont like your women and your society its 100% your fault. Take some damn responsibility.

The chews didnt force you to encourage hook up culture on your women. You choose to get on the tinder apps and encourage it. You choose to encourage sluty behavior in college ect.

When an akward person or whatever tries to improve you discourage it.

You bully and discourage people less fortunate then you (often do to factors out of their control like looks, testosterone levels (which you know has been intentionally attacked so you have to take shots for)

Thats not what built your citites and churches. Team work and cooperation was.

Was this really thr behavior of men like George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, embodied in actors like John Wayne ect.

Was Ben Franklin and Edison really a high testosterone attractive man. Did those men behave like this?

Good luck when the upcoming 63% incel population opps out of work.

Why would a women want to have your children in the society that you created?

Why do you deserve to he free men and have nice countries to live in. All you will do is turn it into a degenerate **** hole where whoring is encouraged and fixing ones social problems ect is mocked and discouraged.

Really hard to see how you dont deserve the situations you are in supreme alpha (which means leader) western men.
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Originally Posted By iamdetermined
Yeah Latino guys usually aren't that tall but they still find a way to be overly confident and pull. I knew so many kids like this in hs and college. Even short black guys who delude themselves into being bigger than they really are. Call it cocky but at least they get results. With BBM it's 100% mindset but he doesn't even wanna follow the simple advice of spending 30 days off misc.
Latino checking in (but 6'1"). Hanging out in the barrio growing up, the shorter the latino, the more confident he is, srs. I had the shortest ones try to out mog me every single time, and they'd pull the most bishes. They are like fking chihuahuas.
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Originally Posted By Freeman3737
After reading all the hate on the first page I’ve concluded that most of you really don’t deserve to have nice countries to live in and be free men.

Someone asks a question of how to improve themselves and you hate and shun them.

OK then you get a society of degenerate misanthropes. You got what you asked for and encouraged.

You talk about you have to go to a foreign country as far away as possible from other western men to find a good women then refer to them as “banging sloots”.

Thats what got your women into the situation they are in in the first place.

I got news for you childish “bodybuilding” beauty pageant contestants.

Men make the countries not the women. If you dont like your women and your society its 100% your fault. Take some damn responsibility.

The chews didnt force you to encourage hook up culture on your women. You choose to get on the tinder apps and encourage it. You choose to encourage sluty behavior in college ect.

When an akward person or whatever tries to improve you discourage it.

You bully and discourage people less fortunate then you (often do to factors out of their control like looks, testosterone levels (which you know has been intentionally attacked so you have to take shots for)

Thats not what built your citites and churches. Team work and cooperation was.

Was this really thr behavior of men like George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, embodied in actors like John Wayne ect.

Was Ben Franklin and Edison really a high testosterone attractive man. Did those men behave like this?

Good luck when the upcoming 63% incel population opps out of work.

Why would a women want to have your children in the society that you created?

Why do you deserve to he free men and have nice countries to live in. All you will do is turn it into a degenerate **** hole where whoring is encouraged and fixing ones social problems ect is mocked and discouraged.

Really hard to see how you dont deserve the situations you are in supreme alpha (which means leader) western men.
Great post, but there’s a flaw.

Let’s take a closer look at Incels.

From the sounds of your post, you assume these men are seeking to improve themselves and want help? I would argue that is indeed the case for a certain percentage of them, but there is also a a healthy proportion of Incels who are NOT interested in that in the slightest. Instead, they are ankle deep in nihilism and espouse black pill ideology, and their agenda is to infect other men with their thinking. Think ‘Crabs in a bucket’ if you will.

BBMG is the latter, which is why he receives so much stick.
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Originally Posted By alltrapbrah
Great post, but there’s a flaw.

Let’s take a closer look at Incels.

From the sounds of your post, you assume these men are seeking to improve themselves and want help? I would argue that is indeed the case for a certain percentage of them, but there is also a a healthy proportion of Incels who are NOT interested in that in the slightest. Instead, they are ankle deep in nihilism and espouse black pill ideology, and their agenda is to infect other men with their thinking. Think ‘Crabs in a bucket’ if you will.

BBMG is the latter, which is why he receives so much stick.
He's no worse than the nazis, flat earthers, and raw milk drinkers here.
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He needs some kind of social proof. No one should feel bad for him cause he won't do what it takes. I guarantee that 99.999999 percent of 5 ft 3 black guys from the hood aren't incels.(only the Kent tv guy) This guy has the advantage of success, being articulate, being Nigerian. OP should have started a YouTube channel a long time ago.
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Originally Posted By Banderistan
He's no worse than the nazis, flat earthers, and raw milk drinkers here.
Where blackpill / Incel ideology is concerned, BBMG is one of the worst we have on this forum.

What’s wrong with raw milk btw? Thought it was supposed to be the chit? Obviously more dangerous if you get it from an unhealthy cow or whatever, but I thought it was suppose to be more nutritious.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824
Funny how being black has never hindered any of my brothers, my father, his brothers, or myself. But for you it's a death sentence.
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Originally Posted By legbroke
2/2

Despite this, I do think socialmaxxing/acquiring the gift of gab/whatever you want to call it is probably the answer. Who hasn't seen ugly dudes that can still walk into anywhere and light up the place? I think becoming that sociable is harder than a lot of people give it credit - probably takes a lot of genetics/particular (early?) life experiences - but at the end of the day, it's infinitely easier for us to become good actors and say the right words at the right time than it is to grow a foot taller.

I of course do think there is some minimum looksmaxxing OP needs - OP, have you ever been sub 15% BF while benching 185 for reps? Feel like that's nothing crazy, but you're at least an in shape guy at that point. Feel like you've ducked lifting questions before.

I do think the 99% number can be approved upon - you can both improve you looks/social abilities and find women/places with women who will be more receptive to you. I was careful in my choice of "unadulterated;" yeah, maybe you're really unlucky in the looks department, but how many people have an ivy league degree, let alone how many black dudes have an ivy league degree? I bet the cross-section of chicks who like/don't mind shorter black guys and chicks who like smart guys is pretty high. I think the boiling yourself down to a few attributes is harder on yourself than you need to be and harder than the world is, though I certainly guilty of this myself.

P.S. Adding to Muzz's earlier point, I just spent like an hour writing this. You do have people rooting for you.
Thanks for your thoughts, can see you took some time on it.

In terms of 'socialmaxxing' this only nets me friends. I dont really understand why some of you think that being super social means women will suck your dikck. Physical attraction always matters in the end. Me doing that just means I get friendzoned. Friends are good. But the point I'm making is when you are this unattractive, that's all that ever comes of it.

I've been very clear on lifting. I lifted heavily in high school/college, and was extremely yoked. Like people said I looked like a greek god. I was still an incel. Still nobody was ever attracted. After I was done with sports after college, I stopped lifting because I dont enjoy it and it didnt get me women. So now I'm still in shape, I run, bike, walk, and play rec sports but I'm not built at all I'm just skinny. If you saw me shirtless you'd see I'm still pretty cut with the abs etc but obviously nobody ever does see that.
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Originally Posted By wigwogzigzog
I'd like to jump on the You do have people rooting for you Bbmg. I feel for you. You could give it your best and still not make it. With how difficult the road ahead would be, it's understandable if you give up.

But with the right mindset there is still a fun life out there for you. I seriously think you should chase some crazy dream or goal or adventure to make it. Easier said than done. But the local bar and dating scene and cushy job won't do you any favors with women. And it's sad to have to do that just for a decent woman. But don't do it for women. Do it for you.

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Appreciate it. At this point I'm just NEETing and taking it easy. My perspective is, if I'm single forever, I'm going to forever be unsatisfied with life regardless so may as just rot. It's been fun.
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Originally Posted By ChinkWithDink
Lol this thread was a ride, you guys are more than just the trolls you initially come across. A lot of depth here, a lot different but valid perspectives. The vocals were awesome, you guys talk really well and put across well thought out intelligent ideas and that bass ****ing slapped.

OP, I'm rooting for you too man. You are too negative, you've already decided there's no hope and it's all pointless, you are 0% open to having your mind changed. There is no hope while you are like this, its self fulfilling . I don't agree that there is no hope for you. Clearly I don't know you but I can see you have value. You are too insecure about being a cuck though and it gives solid dickhead vibes. Society is phucked though.

Way I see it, you have 2 options to change from where you are at (I'll ignore the rope because I'm rooting for you); Change the negative mindset and give the ideas presented a go or just go full degenmaxx, hedonistic, dopamine is dopamine we all dies anyway
Nobody that makes it to age 32 with the experiences I've had of constant rejection and lonliness would have any hope.

You guys arent realistic. I'm a human being. I cant endure constant rejection my entire life, well beyond what is normal, and not have any effect on me.

I dont believe that I have no value or whatever. I dont know where you guys are getting this general self-hate from. What I think is that I'm inherently physically unattractive to women because of my face height and race. That's all I think. Women like me as a person, most people like me as a person. But the reality is I'm too physically unappealing for anything beyond that.

In terms of the 2 options, I've chosen the degenmaxx of late and it makes a lot more sense than any other option. Because if you're going to unsatisfied with life anyway, why bother?
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Originally Posted By koreannoodles77
This is my biggest issue with incels, the self deprecation. I struck out with women countless times, never once have I called myself a loser. Wtf sort of weak defeatist attitude is that to have towards yourself? Ill never respect anyone that fishes for pity like these ****0ts, chit disgusts me. You cant call yourself a man when you think that low of yourself. Its weak, and nobody respects weak ppl, let alone women
I never called myself a loser either, where the fuk are you getting this strawman from. With women specifically, yes I'm a loser unless you think being 32 and still constantly rejected is a good thing. But this general self-hate that you think I have is something you made up.

Striking out with women countless times is not the same as lifetime rejection either. Everyone strikes out countless times. Very few men have had is as bad as me, because very few men are 5'3 and black and ethnic and ugly. its a unique combination that is one of the worst you can be.
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Originally Posted By koreannoodles77
I don't hate on people that need help. I needed support at points throughout my life, like everyone else

Difference is these people don't want help, they want to drag everyone else down to their misery instead. Incels are some of the most hard headed fuktards I've seen

They don't want to get better, they want the world to accommodate to their needs instead. Thats not how life or reality works.
you dont listen. you frequently make up things I've never said and judge me for it.

And you say stupid things like 'get better' when my problem is being 5'3. Some of you refuse to understand this reality. You cant get better at 5'3 you morons. You gotta accept some things cant be changed.
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