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post 1684130293 06-06-2023, 08:35 PM
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Do you ever think racism is natural? (Srs) (controversial)

Think about animals

Animals dotn usually hang out with other animals they stick with each other

Usually they are weary when they encounter another animal

When you see someone who is of different ethnicity to you is it a natural response to be weary of them and not like them?

Racism is a natural response
post 1684130413 06-06-2023, 08:37 PM
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Yes it is
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Originally Posted By BalognaNbeans
Yes it is
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post 1684130503 06-06-2023, 08:40 PM
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go to any multiracial population in the USA whether it be a school, the military or prison; you will always find blacks hanging with blacks, whites with whites, latinos with latinos, and even asians with asians. Always happens naturally as well.

Normal People will automatically feel more empathy for someone who shares their own features than someone of a different ethnic group or race.
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No.



Racism is a product of ignorant human behavior. People only want to normalize it to cope and avoid challenge of the belief that they're a good person (being racist doesn't imply the opposite either).
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Like attracts like. You associate with who you share things in common. People you can relate to. I think there is a big difference between just not being comfortable with those not like you and hating them. It takes a lot to see things beyond the surface.
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Depends what you mean by racism. It's not natural to outright HATE just based on the color of their skin. That's racism. It's tribalism to prefer to be around people like yourself.
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what is racism???
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Nope. It is taught. People would notice they were different from each other, but wouldn't care.
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no, i don't.

tribalism on the other hand, yes.
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Didn't they do a study with albino mice who demonstrated unwillingness to help mice of other colored strains?
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Of course it is.

How do you think Families became tribes, that became communities that became nations?

Your family, tribe would develop safeguards to protect their kin and ensure their survival and future survival which in turn would manifest to being traditions or cultural norms.

People only really mixed due to slavery, war/invasion or trade.
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Originally Posted By alain
Of course it is.

How do you think Families became tribes, that became communities that became nations?

Your family, tribe would develop safeguards to protect their kin and ensure their survival and future survival which in turn would manifest to being traditions or cultural norms.

People only really mixed due to slavery, war/invasion or trade.
And trade was widespread for as long as humans existed...
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Originally Posted By Voidgaze
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Racism is a product of ignorant human behavior. People only want to normalize it to cope and avoid challenge of the belief that they're a good person (being racist doesn't imply the opposite either).
Racism has a strong negative connotation because of slavery but if you just look at it in terms of the definition - a predisposition towards someone based on their race - there is certainly a biological, natural component to it. The favoritism of your own kind instead of the 'other kind' has been a part of the hierarchy structure and tribalism of tons of different animals, including humans.

Once people became more intelligent and manipulative, racism became seriously derogatory though.
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While infants do demonstrate preference for faces of their race by 3 months I contend that racism is due to cultural collision/incompatibility. If we could somehow eliminate all separate cultures and reset people without the trappings of respective cultural bullchit and indoctrination (except for the food) racism would likely be reduced dramatically across the board.
Yeah, racismas we think of it todayis largely a product of cultures. I think some level of racism would always exist even if everyone magically had uniform culture. I suppose you would just call it favoritism at that point. You would pick your own race over any other race, all else the same. Not exactly racism by today's standards - as in a seriously negative predisposition towards a person based solely on their race.
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What a stupid question

Do animals gravitate to those that look, think and act like them
Or
Do they want to be around those that are completely alien to them

Why do you think immigrants in new countries always stick to areas with similar immigrants
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Relevant (it is innate):

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Originally Posted By Islandboyo
go to any multiracial population in the USA whether it be a school, the military or prison; you will always find blacks hanging with blacks, whites with whites, latinos with latinos, and even asians with asians. Always happens naturally as well.

Normal People will automatically feel more empathy for someone who shares their own features than someone of a different ethnic group or race.
Guess I'm not normal then
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What a stupid question

Do animals gravitate to those that look, think and act like them
Or
Do they want to be around those that are completely alien to them

Why do you think immigrants in new countries always stick to areas with similar immigrants
Maybe because language

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Absolutely. Anybody who denies it is lying to themselves. Don’t like the animals analogy? Take a look at humanity dating back to the beginning of time. Tribes oF people killing each other for being in different tribes, religious groups killing each other for believing in a different version of the Bible, etc. It’s engrained in human DNA. People that act on these types of things and can’t congregate peacefully with different people are psychos, but to say that it is not natural is pure cope.
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Originally Posted By rollerball
Babies begin to strongly prefer faces that match their own race by about 3 months. It's an inherently ingrained thing in humans to hold very definite distinction and preference for their own race over others
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...ethnic%20group.

Is this the study you are referring to?

This study concluded that no racial preference is apparent at birth, but is learned within the first 3 months (based on a sample of infants with little to no exposure to people outside their own race).

I'm no so sure that your in-group is as concrete as pigmentation.
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yeah what about white Tarzan being raised by monkeys?



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Originally Posted By rollerball
Preceding that 3 month mark infants brains are still in basic stages of categorization of the new sensory stimuli coming in post birth, they have a difficult time with the complexity of human faces for the first few months. Babies start preferring not only their own race but they also shun ugly people lol
Lol at shunning ugly people, that is truly innate.

I'd like to see a study comparing infants 3+months with little to no exposure, some exposure, and routine exposure.
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Originally Posted By rollerball
Yeah if you really want to know if you're ugly go up to a baby and see how it reacts to your face lol.

I'd like to see that study too barring the logistical and ethical challenges of actually trying to run such a study.
They'd have to do it with monkeys.

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