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post 1685089583 06-22-2023, 10:22 AM
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Would Respect Trump So Much If He Quit + Endorsed Ramaswamy

Didn't know anything about the guy before, but he seems to be a competent well spoken candidate who also aims to reform the three letter agencies and "drain the swamp".

It would be a real act of putting the country above his own ego given that the Deep State is obviously committed to neutralizing Trump as a viable candidate for the office.
Vivek Ganapathy Ramaswamy is an American entrepreneur. He is a candidate in the 2024 Republican Party presidential primaries. Ramaswamy founded the biopharmaceutical company Roivant Sciences in 2014, after working as an investment partner.
- is a minority w/immigrant parents

- graduated Harvard

- is against racial quotas, says that racism is real, but not specific to one race against all others

- wants to reform the corrupt FDA and is familiar w/issues there due to his business experience

- plans to de-throne "permanent Washington" which currently exerts power over the Executive as the President doesn't have the power to fire people at the agencies

- suggests an 8 year term limit for some public offices [not clear if he means ALL of them, which seems needless, but I could see some limitation on the leader of any given agency]

- says he will change the funding process to give power back to Congress [a return to "may spend" from "shall spend"]


Worth a watch. He is very coherent and seems passionate without straying into being untethered.




@ 34:00 Malice asks about staffing and corruption

@ 39:00 they talk about the FDA

@ 42:30 his intention to run the government like an actual executive

@ 47:00 -ish thoughts on permanent Washington and the need to end civil service protections + federal budgeting

@ 1:00 says he wants to audit the Federal Reserve and see the headcount reduced there


There are a few in video ads, but they are short and not hard to skip. Malice asks some good questions and gives Ramaswamy time to speak at some length.
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Trump's ego would never allow that to happen.
A democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. And that's why the USA is a constitutional republic and not a democracy.
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Originally Posted By poundXpound⏩
Trump's ego would never allow that to happen.
Probably true. But if Vivek got into office and followed through on his stated intentions Trump could enjoy some legit bragging rights for stepping aside and turning over the reins to a younger fit candidate.

Would be super classy and likely buff up Trump's historic legacy.
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But that's not the way the reality scripters and manufactured media have scripted the entire political landscape until 2025.
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Originally Posted By scooterbrah⏩
ramaswampy is a WEF lowlife. pls stop buying into his bullchit.
He claims that this is a lie sown by his opposition and that he has been active against things like ESG and the WEF agenda. Says that they put his picture up on their website without his permission and refused to remove it when he asked them to. Says he is filing suit against them for this.

FWIW I've heard similar claims about Desantis- that he is an insider who will just fill the role while changing nothing.
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plans to de-throne "permanent Washington" which currently exerts power over the Executive as the President doesn't have the power to fire people at the agencies


I like this idea, however the deep state will never allow this


They would JFK him before he would be able to change anything
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no one will remember that guy as soon as the primaries are over
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[QUOTE=dabbmw2002 post_id=1685096703]This is where he lost me this. Retarded NRA pandering and neocon China saber rattling. Never mind the fact that Taiwan has its own laws about guns - everything he said there was just retarded. For a guy who poses as an intellectual this is one of the dumbest rants I ever heard trying to appeal to the blue collar rural base


[Youtube]EJrrTkQlhuc[/youtub][/QUOTE]That was pretty dumb, but I don't think that one bad take is enough to write him off. I don't think he has any real chance of winning, but I think his overall platform (well what I know about it, I'm not a total expert on all of his stances) is pretty solid.

What candidate is perfect?
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
This is where he lost me this. Retarded NRA pandering and neocon China saber rattling. Never mind the fact that Taiwan has its own laws about guns - everything he said there was just retarded. For a guy who poses as an intellectual this is one of the dumbest rants I ever heard trying to appeal to the blue collar rural base


Holy fuking cringe lmao
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Originally Posted By poundXpound⏩
Trump's ego would never allow that to happen.
Good, this is a terrible idea. We don't need more of the same just because they're apparently "well spoken". The best thing about Trump is he's a wild card that pisses everyone off.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
This is where he lost me this.Retarded NRA pandering and neocon China saber rattling.Never mind the fact that Taiwan has its own laws about guns - everything he said there was just retarded. For a guy who poses as an intellectual this is one of the dumbest rants I ever heard trying to appeal to the blue collar rural base


Is it though?

I would say that arming a population to fight their own battle as they choose is not a neocon position. So far as I can tell the neocons are pro US intervention in foreign nations and are all in on a nice profitable war which gives them an excuse to take more money from taxpayers and move it to their own pockets.

From a quick search the working age population of Taiwan is about 16 million. Let's say maybe half are willing/able to own and use a weapon...8 million. A good rifle and ammo looks like maybe $3K or $4K depending. My math sucks but maybe $24B to $32B???

So for $32B we could arm the population of Taiwan so that they can at least be a PITA to mainland China for decades without starting any sort of big international incident.
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post 1685097663 06-22-2023, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted By coast2coastam⏩
Good, this is a terrible idea. We don't need more of the same just because they're apparently "well spoken". The best thing about Trump is he's a wild card that pisses everyone off.
Ah, but Vivek is also a political outsider who made his own fortune via entrepreneurship.

And IMO he would have a much better chance of getting elected because they can't come at him for the crime of being a white male candidate and also he is 37, not due to move into a nursing home soon.

Trump doesn't move the needle if he can't get into office and there is a full press on to make sure that doesn't happen. Even if he isn't convicted of anything and is able to secure the Republican nomination do you believe that election tampering is off the table?
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
Probably true. But if Vivek got into office and followed through on his stated intentions Trump could enjoy some legit bragging rights for stepping aside and turning over the reins to a younger fit candidate.

Would be super classy and likely buff up Trump's historic legacy.
He'd look like a pussy honestly. Lol @ legit bragging rights. To who?
Originally Posted By katya422⏩
Ah, but Vivek is also a political outsider who made his own fortune via entrepreneurship.

And IMO he would have a much better chance of getting elected because they can't come at him for the crime of being a white male candidate and also he is 37, not due to move into a nursing home soon.

Trump doesn't move the needle if he can't get into office and there is a full press on to make sure that doesn't happen. Even if he isn't convicted of anything and is able to secure the Republican nomination do you believe that election tampering is off the table?
Not white so they can't say anything? Why do you want to pander to them and play their game? If election tampering isn't off the table, and they let this other guy in, he's just another insider, so what difference does it make if he wins?

Tbh it'd be interesting to see Trump or RFK jr get in because there's so much push back against them. If there's no real push back, they're insiders.
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
Ah, but Vivek is also a political outsider who made his own fortune via entrepreneurship.

And IMO he would have a much better chance of getting elected because they can't come at him for the crime of being a white male candidate and also he is 37, not due to move into a nursing home soon.

Trump doesn't move the needle if he can't get into office and there is a full press on to make sure that doesn't happen. Even if he isn't convicted of anything and is able to secure the Republican nomination do you believe that election tampering is off the table?
He's polling at 2.5% right now. I think if he truly has good ideas, they will come out during the primaries. But it's way too early for anyone to endorse him yet. He's an unknown
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Trump has a better chance of success if he endorses Haley, Scott, or even his former running mate Mike Pence.

Ramaswamy has little office experience (I know Trump technically didn't either, but he had been publicly outspoken about politics for 30 years before he ran). Ramawamy's Hindu faith could be an issue with GOP voters, unfortunately; and he is even further right on cultural issues than DeSantis

Even with Trump's endorsement, Ramaswamy wouldn't gain much traction
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Trump would be miserable if he endorsed Ramaswamy. "Ramaswamy came begging on his knees, tears in his eyes, wanting my endorsement." I doubt we'd ever hear the end of it.
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Originally Posted By ParsleyTea⏩
Trump would be miserable if he endorsed Ramaswamy. "Ramaswamy came begging on his knees, tears in his eyes, wanting my endorsement." I doubt we'd ever hear the end of it.
Lol'd. Same exact story every time.
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Originally Posted By Procta⏩
no one will remember that guy as soon as the primaries are over
This.


Originally Posted By John
Lol'd. Same exact story every time.
"Everyone in the audience was crying as I endorsed him!"
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
The United States acknowledges the One China policy, as reiterated by Tony Blinken recently. Even Biden said it. The One China policy means that Taiwan is part of China and that their reunification should be done peacefully. The US has no right to start the Taiwanese. We also armed the Ukrainians....how is that working out? Running guns to Taiwan will only hasten its destruction. Why do you assume China would allow us to start that sort of program? It is ridiculous. How about we mind our own business?

Also, not every country has a gun culture like the U.S. Who says the Taiwanese want to all own guns? Currently, you need permission in Taiwan to buy a gun for hunting or other reasons.
These are all good points. I'm wondering if the NRA, a private (?), non-government entity really needs congressional permission to set up shop in another country?

Is that not something they could do on their own?
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Originally Posted By coast2coastam⏩
He'd look like a pussy honestly. Lol @ legit bragging rights. To who?

Not white so they can't say anything? Why do you want to pander to them and play their game? If election tampering isn't off the table, and they let this other guy in, he's just another insider, so what difference does it make if he wins?

Tbh it'd be interesting to see Trump or RFK jr get in because there's so much push back against them. If there's no real push back, they're insiders.
1] Which do you think Trump would prefer? Admitting that he can't win or getting behind the winner and bragging that he did it for the good of the country?

2] It isn't about pandering, it is disarmament. Can't shame minorities for voting for a Republican who isn't white. And we had a "first black President". Being Indian he could run as the "first Asian President" or "first minority Republican President".
Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja⏩
He's polling at 2.5% right now. I think if he truly has good ideas, they will come out during the primaries. But it's way too early for anyone to endorse him yet. He's an unknown
Will agree that it is very early still.
Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
The United States acknowledges the One China policy, as reiterated by Tony Blinken recently. Even Biden said it. The One China policy means that Taiwan is part of China and that their reunification should be done peacefully. The US has no right to start the Taiwanese. We also armed the Ukrainians....how is that working out? Running guns to Taiwan will only hasten its destruction. Why do you assume China would allow us to start that sort of program? It is ridiculous. How about we mind our own business?

Also, not every country has a gun culture like the U.S. Who says the Taiwanese want to all own guns? Currently, you need permission in Taiwan to buy a gun for hunting or other reasons.
Are we pretending that the US and China are not in conflict? It may not be openly acknowledged, but it's happening. See: US attempting to prevent Chinese ownership/production of advanced micro chips, China putting a "training base" in Cuba, China dumping US Treasuries/trying to move away from the US$, the US poking at Taiwan as it suits, etc.




I don't know if the Taiwanese want to own guns. I believe that Taiwan would prefer to maintain autonomy from mainland Chinese rule. I know that a militia or mandatory military service isn't a new concept and IIRC still exists in Israel and Switzerland...maybe Turkey?
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While I know Trump is motivated to make the country better, his own ego is even more of the reason he wants to be POTUS again. So there's no way he's dropping out unless he has a health problem. Obviously if it's down to him and Dementia Biden I'll vote Trump, especially since Kamala is backup, but I wish he had sat this out. He's so polarizing and corporatist media has such a stake in taking him out that him staying in is what might give us President Harris, who we'll be deemed 'racist' for not approving of.
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Originally Posted By XterraRob⏩
Repeal the 19th.

Originally Posted By QuentinSutpen⏩
Trump has a better chance of success if he endorses Haley, Scott, or even his former running mate Mike Pence.

Ramaswamy has little office experience (I know Trump technically didn't either, but he had been publicly outspoken about politics for 30 years before he ran). Ramawamy's Hindu faith could be an issue with GOP voters, unfortunately; and he is even further right on cultural issues than DeSantis

Even with Trump's endorsement, Ramaswamy wouldn't gain much traction
He is presently a long shot for sure. If you just want someone who identifies as Republican that's cool. If you want someone who will shake things up? Not helpful.

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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
1] Which do you think Trump would prefer? Admitting that he can't win or getting behind the winner and bragging that he did it for the good of the country?

2] It isn't about pandering, it is disarmament. Can't shame minorities for voting for a Republican who isn't white. And we had a "first black President". Being Indian he could run as the "first Asian President" or "first minority Republican President".
1. Neither, both are stupid options when the winner is a weak RINO. We don't need more of the same, which is what everyone else is. It can't be someone palatable for the establishment. It needs to be someone that makes them lose their chit the way Trump does, and we have Trump.

2. Call it whatever you want, it doesn't work. How many blacks and Hispanics have to be called white supremacists before people realize they make the rules up as they go, and those rules don't apply to them?
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