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Thread: Billionaire trapped on Submarine

post 1685382053 06-27-2023, 01:46 AM
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PCBU will be fined heavily.

They created the quickest way to die while simultaneously providing food to the marine life.
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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats⏩
Can anyone sue if they all signed their waivers accepting that death is a very likely outcome? A sub that size needed to be twice as thick as it was. I'm quite impressed it managed to go that deep successfully in the past, even if something went wrong every time.
They had a 3 strike policy apparently, if 3 things were incorrect or went wrong during the mission, they cancelled and tried again another time. Very lax for a system which had no redundancies for critical areas like pilot controls and communications
It likely depends if the company hid safety issues from them/knew about issues & did nothing to fix them. From what we have seen/heard so far both seem highly probable & I think lawsuits will follow, not only from the families of the deceased, but others who had near misses, or who just went on it-but weren't told all the risks.
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
Yes, a waiver can't get you out of negligence.

If you go skydiving and sign a million waivers, the company can't forget to pack your chute and say too bad you signed the waiver knowing skydiving is dangerous.

A court could easily rule it was negligent and reckless to build a sub out of used rv parts and tell customers it's safe for 6000 pounds of pressure. Not like multiple experts, including their own guy who they fired, didn't warn them.
They won't be able to prove negligence.
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post 1685383943 06-27-2023, 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted By theory816⏩
They won't be able to prove negligence.
I think with the history of his public statements,the correspondence between him & various parties who were warning him about safety issues which he refused to take seriously with his on the record replies & the guy he fired five years back who pointed out safety problems, that negligence will be pretty easy to prove.

Really it is impossible to see this company doing anything other than declaring bankruptcy-there aren't going to be many people willing to go on them for free, let alone paying hundreds of thousands after this-so what future do they have anyway?
post 1685384113 06-27-2023, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted By jimbob007⏩
I think with the history of his public statements,the correspondence between him & various parties who were warning him about safety issues which he refused to take seriously with his on the record replies & the guy he fired five years back who pointed out safety problems, that negligence will be pretty easy to prove.
Its can't be proven because engineering has an aspect of subjective opinion. Engineers spend alot of time debating whether to do this or that for safety reasons and often don't come to an agreement, which is why we have cars like Hondas and Cadillacs with different engineering blueprints. GM and Toyota engineers even gotten into huge arguments and splitted a project in two because of this differing opinion.

Some things are easily proven negligent though for example if the lid of a hot coffee cup pops off with the slightest force. You can't prove that with submarine engineering because of the complexity in economics and engineering.

If the CEO knew his sub was going to collapse, he wouldn't have gotten into it the 4th or 5th time.

That said, if he is found for negligence, I would find it when the ship underwent testing as that's where you see the software data on how much pressure the hull could take and how many times. But that wouldn't hold up either because if he saw the data with his own eyes, he wouldn't have gotten on the ship.
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post 1685384463 06-27-2023, 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted By theory816⏩
Its can't be proven because engineering has an aspect of subjective opinion. Engineers spend alot of time debating whether to do this or that for safety reasons and often don't come to an agreement, which is why we have cars like Hondas and Cadillacs with different engineering blueprints. GM and Toyota engineers even gotten into huge arguments and splitted a project in two because of this differing opinion.

Some things are easily proven negligent though for example if the lid of a hot coffee cup pops off with the slightest force. You can't prove that with submarine engineering because of the complexity in economics and engineering.

If the CEO knew his sub was going to collapse, he wouldn't have gotten into it the 4th or 5th time.

That said, if he is found for negligence, I would find it when the ship underwent testing as that's where you see the software data on how much pressure the hull could take and how many times. But that wouldn't hold up either because if he saw the data with his own eyes, he wouldn't have gotten on the ship.
It's negligent if the hull wasn't checked for microfractures after each dive.
post 1685384563 06-27-2023, 04:32 AM
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The guy was a retard who thought he knew better than everyone who had ever worked on a sub before
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post 1685384593 06-27-2023, 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats⏩
It's negligent if the hull wasn't checked for microfractures after each dive.
Yes that's a problem but its not an obvious one until after a major tragedy.

As I've mentioned before, sub marine diving will be made safer for the next 100 years because of this. This is in contrast to car wrecks.

I'm saying all of this because I too have just recently gotten into a debate with an engineer about all the safety stuff that goes into airplanes n chit. Basically I told him I can do without all that safety bullchit if I ever built my own stuff and he scolded me for it.
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post 1685385263 06-27-2023, 05:06 AM
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post 1685394863 06-27-2023, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted By theory816⏩
Its can't be proven because engineering has an aspect of subjective opinion. Engineers spend alot of time debating whether to do this or that for safety reasons and often don't come to an agreement, which is why we have cars like Hondas and Cadillacs with different engineering blueprints. GM and Toyota engineers even gotten into huge arguments and splitted a project in two because of this differing opinion.

Some things are easily proven negligent though for example if the lid of a hot coffee cup pops off with the slightest force. You can't prove that with submarine engineering because of the complexity in economics and engineering.

If the CEO knew his sub was going to collapse, he wouldn't have gotten into it the 4th or 5th time.

That said, if he is found for negligence, I would find it when the ship underwent testing as that's where you see the software data on how much pressure the hull could take and how many times. But that wouldn't hold up either because if he saw the data with his own eyes, he wouldn't have gotten on the ship.
Isn't the guy on video laughing about the plexiglass cracking? There is stuff in the courts already from 2018 about him firing a high-up in his company for bringing up safety issues, after he commissioned the guy to do a report. He is ignoring a marine board in correspondence when they raise concerns etc. Not that it makes any real difference-the company is toast & will file for Chapter 11.
post 1685470913 06-28-2023, 11:08 AM
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post 1685471363 06-28-2023, 11:15 AM
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Looks like it didn't implode as tradtional metal.
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post 1685475293 06-28-2023, 12:05 PM
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post 1685480473 06-28-2023, 01:13 PM
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Maybe they knew it was breaking apart, based on these photos. Rest in Peace, boyos.
post 1685487583 06-28-2023, 02:41 PM
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The blackbox had its own pressure hull correct? Maybe we will get some audio recordings of Stockton Slap and co chitting bricks before it all went south
post 1685488473 06-28-2023, 02:56 PM
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Every part recovered so far. Must say I'm surprised that so much survived the implosion. Looks like pressure vessel (crew compartment) is the only thing that got destroyed.


post 1685488883 06-28-2023, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats⏩
The blackbox had its own pressure hull correct? Maybe we will get some audio recordings of Stockton Slap and co chitting bricks before it all went south
Lol if you think that thing had a black box.

Can anyone tell if there is still glass in that porthole?
post 1685490293 06-28-2023, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted By CockHorse⏩
Lol if you think that thing had a black box.

Can anyone tell if there is still glass in that porthole?
It did have a separate pressure hull for something idk what tho
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Originally Posted By Procta⏩
remains foundโ€ฆ.maybe

Wow. People made it sound like they were totally vaporized and there would be no traces to recover
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Originally Posted By BrianDaMan⏩
Wow. People made it sound like they were totally vaporized and there would be no traces to recover
they aren't sure if it's human, doesn't sound like much
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
they aren't sure if it's human, doesn't sound like much
they said 'presumed human remains' which means it most likely is human remains


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post 1685495563 06-28-2023, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted By BrianDaMan⏩
Wow. People made it sound like they were totally vaporized and there would be no traces to recover
It will be human shrapnel / mist / meat and or bones that caught into the pieces that didnโ€™t implode. The rest would be mist gone forever.
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It's possible the sub ascended quite far before imploding, in which case the pressure would be less damaging, but still enough to rek them pretty bad
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[QUOTE=ReppinHoes69 post_id=1685488473]Every part recovered so far. Must say I'm surprised that so much survived the implosion. Looks like pressure vessel (crew compartment) is the only thing that got destroyed.


[img]https://i.imgur.com/O1UQqok.][/QUOTE]Looks like it was a top of the line build after all
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Originally Posted By Xgamer791⏩
****s probably sitting on the ocean floor with zero power.
Kinda right.
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Meanwhile 20 normies died on their commute this morning and it didn't make headlines
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Originally Posted By seeker477⏩
Looks like it was a top of the line build after all
CEO brah TOTALLY VINDICATED

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Originally Posted By DesiredUser****⏩
The guy was a retard who thought he knew better than everyone who had ever worked on a sub before
Bingo. He scoffed at others and thought safety concerns were just people afraid of forward-thinking and were uninspiring
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Originally Posted By metroins⏩
I don't understand, it was supposed to be crushed and all that. If it broke apart higher where it wouldn't implode then how did it get so close the titanic?
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