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post 1686893823 07-20-2023, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted By alahusnakbar⏩
Writings from god, reminders not to stick it in farm animals or your uncle, but not a word on protecting children.

Interesting you bring up the old testiment, I almost guarantee that you don't even understand what the first sentence of Genesis actually means.
So you never actually read the Bible..

“But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea. Woe to the world because of offenses! For offenses must come, but woe to that man by whom the offense comes!”

Matthew 18:6, Mark 9:42-48, Luke 17:1-2

Jesus makes it very clear, there is a very special punishment for anyone that harms or deceives a child.
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Op thinks God is some old white dude in a robe in the clouds.
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post 1686894713 07-20-2023, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted By alahusnakbar⏩
"If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her."

Oh my, it's almost like it doesn't add up?
Oh it adds up. Give an example of this occurring.
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Originally Posted By Paul
Oh it adds up. Give an example of this occurring.
The "virgin" Mary and the three "wise" pimps.
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Lets keep the religious thread going since this beats almost any other topic discussed on this heathen subforum
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Originally Posted By baldbrah⏩
The "virgin" Mary and the three "wise" pimps.
In the exact context of the story of the Virgin Mary which part is not true. In order to answer this properly you can not bring your own additions or subtractions into the discussion. You have to keep within the bounds of the story. You obviously think you’re intelligent, so now I’m calling you out to prove it.
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Originally Posted By Holyfenix⏩
In the exact context of the story of the Virgin Mary which part is not true. In order to answer this properly you can not bring your own additions or subtractions into the discussion. You have to keep within the bounds of the story. You obviously think you’re intelligent, so now I’m calling you out to prove it.
Well you obviously believe or you don't - there's no point in trying to prove Jesus to somebody who is alluding to Mary beingthat.
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post 1686906973 07-21-2023, 04:27 AM
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post 1686919043 07-21-2023, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted By alahusnakbar⏩
So this is what gets me, there are thousands of verses in the bible that say the exact opposite of the other. The bible has so much crap in it that you can isolate any text to say what you want.

So you're telling me the gospels written thousands of years later by a completely different cultural time period has something to say about not indoctrinating kids! Gee you got me, Yahweh must have not meant to murder all those Egyptian babies as part of his narcissistic flex in-front of Pharoah after all! Because it's all consistent right? It's not like the authors were just writing propaganda furthering their individual agendas at the time and then that content was edited over hundreds of years to come up with American Brand Christianity, right guys?
Study any ancient civilization & one tribe/kingdom always annihilated every member of the other. The reason for this was that if you sparred any that remnant would often form & later revolt against the conquering people.

It is like a rabid dog, the only way to remove the disease is to kill it. Look at the world today..now you have those that have rejected God parading around fully naked in parades with children…how is that working out?
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post 1686941993 07-21-2023, 02:46 PM
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You do understand death isn’t the end right?
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post 1686951653 07-21-2023, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted By alahusnakbar⏩
You completely glossed over the condundrum. How is the god you quoted in "Matthew 18:6, Mark 9:42-48, Luke 17:1-2" the same god that murdered all the firstborns of Egypt?

The same god that pubished David for his sins by torturing and murdering his child wit Bathsheba:

"And the Lord caused the son of David and Bathsheba, Uriah’s widow, to be very sick. 16 David prayed to God for the baby. David fasted and went into his house and stayed there, lying on the ground all night. 17 The elders of David’s family came to him and tried to pull him up from the ground, but he refused to get up or to eat food with them.18 On the seventh day the baby died. David’s servants were afraid to tell him that the baby was dead. They said, “Look, we tried to talk to David while the baby was alive, but he refused to listen to us. If we tell him the baby is dead, he may do something awful.”

The same god that allowed Jobs children to be murdered on a wager.

The same that endorsed the murder of children in Israelite war crimes.

It's because it's all made up stories, it's not real, that's why there are these gaping inconsistencies in god's character.

That's why Jim Caviezel has to get off his ass and LARP in Sound of Freedom.
Well, we have historical, & archeological evidence that David & his kingdom was in fact real. We can go through it if you like.
God allowing something to happen is not the same as God making it happen. We reap what we sow, & when we disobey God, He is not punishing us because we went against His Word, He is simply allowing the repercussions of the actions we do take place.

In the case of David’s sin, the child died because David stole the life of the child. An illegitimate son would often be cast out & ostracized. When we look at David’s other sons we can see the life they lead & the end result. If anything God showed mercy on the child that saved him from a destructive life. For only God knows the beginning from the end, & it is far better to be with the Father (God) than to suffer the life the child would have grown to live.

If I don’t respond right away, I’m not ignoring you..I have a life too bro. A very blessed one that doesn’t always allow me to be posting on here at all times.
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Originally Posted By Paul
Well, we have historical, & archeological evidence that David & his kingdom was in fact real. We can go through it if you like.
God allowing something to happen is not the same as God making it happen. We reap what we sow, & when we disobey God, He is not punishing us because we went against His Word, He is simply allowing the repercussions of the actions we do take place.

In the case of David’s sin, the child died because David stole the life of the child. An illegitimate son would often be cast out & ostracized. When we look at David’s other sons we can see the life they lead & the end result. If anything God showed mercy on the child that saved him from a destructive life. For only God knows the beginning from the end, & it is far better to be with the Father (God) than to suffer the life the child would have grown to live.

If I don’t respond right away, I’m not ignoring you..I have a life too bro. A very blessed one that doesn’t always allow me to be posting on here at all times.
In my experience it's because He is God, and God is the final judge - whenever you start questioning God, you start creating your own morals and values - and you slowly end up on the side that views killing a calf, draining it's blood and eating it being the equivalent killing little kids/babies, draining their blood and sacrificing it.

Those kingdoms that were destroyed by God were perverted sexually and would ritually sacrifice their first born kids to what we call demons or fallen angels - the one who created us lets it go on only for so long before time is up.

Think child sacrifice is over? You ever considered that abortion clinics have demonic principalities over them?
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Originally Posted By alahusnakbar⏩
Come on mane, you need to provide your evidence for such an extra ordinay claim, which God are you even talking about?
God is God because he is God, and we are only talking about the one true God from the Bible which is the word of God.

Also the evidence is all around you, actually you need to give evidence of your claim that God doesn’t exist.

Plus you wouldn’t even be debating about Him if He wasn’t real, clearly you accept the reality of God existing but just don’t want to admit it.

Checkmate.
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Originally Posted By alahusnakbar⏩
Also wat the fuk you mean David stole the life of the child???
Don’t you see what Paul Kreul is saying?

It’s far, FAR better for children to die and live with Father God up in Heaven than to suffer on Earth and live out their horrible lives.

He’s saying it’s actually evil to allow children to live and grow into adulthood because it subjects them to too much suffering, so it’s better if they are just murdered so that they can be with Father God.

You, on the other hand, would rather have the little children continue to live on this Earth and live out their lives, rather than be horrifically murdered or dead from illness and thereby get to live with the Father God.
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god is great

wish i had that structure growing up

parents just beat me up and punish me when i do wrong

wtf? bad things, a lota bad things that they pushing on me.. i was only a kid
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Originally Posted By GreatOldOne⏩
Consciousness/qualia doesn't suggest God, but does introduce a problem for God's omniscience. To get the knowledge of the contents of your subjective experience, God either needs a copy of it or has to be you experiencing it for the first time as 'you'. Then Occam's razor cuts off the copy, and you're probably left with panentheism or pantheism or else God doesn't know everything. Similar issue with personal action and omnipotence...
I agree that consciousness alone doesn't suggest a God. I don't think it is a problem for God's omniscience, why would God need to do any of that? If he created the universe, human beings along with consciousness and subjective experience. The concept of a God is one that is all-knowing, otherwise He wouldn't be a God. But ignoring that for a second, God could assign angels to each human being or establish a link to each human being.

Pantheism presents it's own logical problems because as far as we know, the universe has its own laws which are limited, it did have a beginning unless you want to argue how it created itself?
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Originally Posted By alahusnakbar⏩
Come on mane, you need to provide your evidence for such an extra ordinay claim, which God are you even talking about?
Well let me take something out of the satan's playbook - claiming that we were not created by God and instead arose out of spontaneity and nothingness is an extraordinary claim in and of itself, and requires SERIOUS proof and justification.
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Originally Posted By Ausaric⏩
God is God because he is God, and we are only talking about the one true God from the Bible which is the word of God.

Also the evidence is all around you, actually you need to give evidence of your claim that God doesn’t exist.

Plus you wouldn’t even be debating about Him if He wasn’t real, clearly you accept the reality of God existing but just don’t want to admit it.

Checkmate.
Yes, The Most High God - Yahweh from the bible.
Originally Posted By Ausaric⏩
Don’t you see what Paul Kreul is saying?

It’s far, FAR better for children to die and live with Father God up in Heaven than to suffer on Earth and live out their horrible lives.

He’s saying it’s actually evil to allow children to live and grow into adulthood because it subjects them to too much suffering, so it’s better if they are just murdered so that they can be with Father God.

You, on the other hand, would rather have the little children continue to live on this Earth and live out their lives, rather than be horrifically murdered or dead from illness and thereby get to live with the Father God.
I know that this is written as comedy, but don't you realize that he's right though? A child dying young gives it less time to commit evil, so when the time of judgement comes, guess what?
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Yes, The Most High God - Yahweh from the bible.



I know that this is written as comedy, but don't you realize that he's right though? A child dying young gives it less time to commit evil, so when the time of judgement comes, guess what?
Wow, you’re right. Every parent should kill their child to give it less time to commit evil, so that when the time of judgement comes, their precious little baby will go directly into the arms of the Most High Yahweh Father God. Thanks for explaining and clearing that up.

Why aren’t parents already doing this? They must be insane to willingly subject their child to living with the chance of committing evil, rather than just murdering them immediately to prevent that from happening.
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Yes, The Most High God - Yahweh from the bible.



I know that this is written as comedy, but don't you realize that he's right though? A child dying young gives it less time to commit evil, so when the time of judgement comes, guess what?
I believe children that die young/aborted fetus etc will be reborn in the millennial kingdom, they won't go straight to heaven.

This explains how people will be giving birth during this time, as redeemed saints are like the angels and don't have sex
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Originally Posted By ninetynine8⏩
I believe children that die young/aborted fetus etc will be reborn in the millennial kingdom, they won't go straight to heaven.

This explains how people will be giving birth during this time, as redeemed saints are like the angels and don't have sex
Where in the Bible does it say this? Or did God speak to you directly and tell you that this is how it happens?
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