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post 1687309893 07-27-2023, 04:33 PM
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BREAKING: Trump hit with more charges in Mar-A-Lago docs case. IT guy charged

Indictment PDF:https://storage.courtlistener.com/re...652.85.0_2.pdf

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/27/thir...ents-case.html


- Former President Donald Trump was hit with three new criminal charges in addition to the ones he already faced related to his retaining classified documents at his Florida residence after leaving the White House.
- Also, a third defendant was added to the case against Trump and his valet, Walt Nauta, as part of the superseding indictment in U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida.
- The new defendant, Carlos De Oliveira, reportedly is a worker at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago club in Palm Beach, Florida.

Former President Donald Trump was hit Thursday night with three new criminal charges in addition to the ones he already faced related to his retaining classified documents at his Florida residence after leaving the White House.

Trump is accused in a new superseding indictment with his valet, Walt Nauta, of an attempt to delete video surveillance foot at his Mar-a-Lago club in Palm Beach, Florida during the summer of 2022, when federal officials were seeking the return of government records they suspected of being kept at that location.

Also Thursday, a third defendant was added to the case against Trump and Nauta, as part of the new indictment in U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida.

The new defendant, Carlos de Oliveira, reportedly is a worker at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago club in Palm Beach, Florida.

The new charges against Trump include an additional count of willful retention of national defense information, and two new counts of obstruction against him and Nauta.

De Oliveira, 56, was charged with conspiracy to obstruct justice, altering destroying, mutilating a document, and false statements.

Trump, who is seeking the 2024 Republican presidential nomination, stored hundreds of government documents at Mar-a-Lago after he left office, and according to prosecutors took steps to keep them hidden from U.S. officials seeking their return.

Trump and Nauta have pleaded not guilty in the case, which is being prosecuted by Department of Justice special counsel Jack Smith.

John Irving, a lawyer for De Oliveira, declined to comment on the case, according to NBC News. De Oliveira has been ordered to appear in Miami federal court on Monday for his first hearing in the case.

Peter Carr, a spokesman for Smith, said in a statement, “Today, a superseding indictment was returned by a grand jury in the Southern District of Florida that adds one defendant and four charges to the prior indictment filed against Donald J. Trump and Waltine Nauta.”

Smith separately is overseeing a criminal investigation of Trump related to his efforts to undo his 2020 electoral loss to President Joe Biden. The special counsel last week informed Trump that he is a target in that probe, a notification that typically occurs before the target is charged in a case.

Trump spokesman Steven Cheung in a statement Thursday evening, said, “This is nothing more than a continued desperate and flailing attempt by the Biden Crime Family and their Department of Justice to harass President Trump and those around him.”

“Deranged Jack Smith knows that they have no case and is casting about for any way to salvage their illegal witch hunt and to get someone other than Donald Trump to run against Crooked Joe Biden,” Cheung said.
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The guy charged is De Oliveiro, and he is some kind of valet or maintenance guy. He wasn't an IT guy, though his crime was consulting with IT people about trying to delete video footage

https://storage.courtlistener.com/re...652.85.0_2.pdf

^ Page 27 has a subsection on "The Attempt to Delete Security Camera Footage" on the new charges
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they don't want anyone to even work with him. It's an all out assault. As someone who isn't really a Trump fan, they are making it way too obvious.
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It’s so fkin ridiculous. They keep piling on because they’re terrified of him becoming President again.

Fulton County, GA just barricaded their courthouse (srs) and Jack Smith had 6 hours with the DC grand jury today. Sources are saying both jurisdictions might hit Trump with double indictments the same day or within a few days of each other.

How every single American doesn’t realize this is orchestrated election interference and weaponization of our once sacred justice system is beyond me…
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If you think this isn’t some weaponized bullchit you’re lying to yourself.
Truth is out there
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I prefer presidential candidates that aren’t under constant criminal indictment.
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Originally Posted By Phil9
I prefer presidential candidates that aren’t under constant criminal indictment.
Name me the last president who encouraged term limits on congress and senate.
Truth is out there
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Lol @ Trumplets not knowing what controlled opposition is?

They've got you all so emotionally invested you can't see what's really going on
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Originally Posted By Foxmulder0
Name me the last president who encouraged term limits on congress and senate.
Name the last president who encouraged term limits then endorsed numerous career politicians like Mitch McConnell, Chuck Grassley, and Lindsey Graham for re-election.
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Originally Posted By Evolutionary1
Lol @ Trumplets not knowing what controlled opposition is?

They've got you all so emotionally invested you can't see what's really going on
most people already know. but it's obvious they are unjustly going after this dude with everything they have.
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At this point, Trump should just consider a self-inflicted bullet to the throat. All his criminal activity is catching up to him.
post 1687313593 07-27-2023, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted By ghostfacedup
most people already know. but it's obvious they are unjustly going after this dude with everything they have.
THis is what happens when you try to take down an entire political system without the means to do so.... all the while grifting and the only swamp that got drained was his own. The Only good thing that came from all this is the epsteion eyeland conspiracy
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Originally Posted By Evolutionary1
THis is what happens when you try to take down an entire political system without the means to do so.... all the while grifting and the only swamp that got drained was his own. The Only good thing that came from all this is the epsteion eyeland conspiracy
Trump never tried to take down a political system. He quickly adapted to suckering donors out of money and endorsing lifetime politicians which is the norm. Even hiring lifetime bureaucrats into his administration.
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Originally Posted By Phil9
Trump never tried to take down a political system. He quickly adapted to suckering donors out of money and endorsing lifetime politicians which is the norm. Even hiring lifetime bureaucrats into his administration.
13 posts not including the OP and you have majority of them.

Holy cringe.
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Originally Posted By Phil9
At this point, Trump should just consider a self-inflicted bullet to the throat. All his criminal activity is catching up to him.
I really hope you get stage 4 pancretic cancer and get put into the ground this year you disgusting groomer.
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Oh wow! This time they GOT HIM!

The orange Cheeto is going to jail this time!

High fives all around!
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Originally Posted By DeshaunWatson
13 posts not including the OP and you have majority of them.

Holy cringe.
DeShaun seething. He also is really chitty at math.
Originally Posted By GreatReset1
I really hope you get stage 4 pancretic cancer and get put into the ground this year you disgusting groomer.
Awwww, you mad?
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Originally Posted By Evolutionary1
THis is what happens when you try to take down an entire political system without the means to do so....
Where does this fantasy come from? He got in and hired the swampiest of the swamp!
My personal pronouns are: Don't talk to me/Fck off
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Originally Posted By DeshaunWatson
13 posts not including the OP and you have majority of them.

Holy cringe.
Syphilis is getting more and more unhinged as Trump surge in polls. Entering late stage TDS.
Michael Schumacher is GOAT
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Just remember guys, if Trump manages to get that second term, he might do what they are actually doing to him right now.












MSNBC:


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Originally Posted By gwg77
Just remember guys, if Trump manages to get that second term, he might do what they are actually doing to him right now.












MSNBC:


"it's only acceptable for dems to do this, how dare anyone on the other side do it".

The entitlement.
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Originally Posted By GuineaDago585
It’s so fkin ridiculous. They keep piling on because they’re terrified of him becoming President again.

Fulton County, GA just barricaded their courthouse (srs) and Jack Smith had 6 hours with the DC grand jury today. Sources are saying both jurisdictions might hit Trump with double indictments the same day or within a few days of each other.

How every single American doesn’t realize this is orchestrated election interference and weaponization of our once sacred justice system is beyond me…
"They" are terrified of the guy that lead to the Republicans losing the Presidency, House, and Senate when he went for re-election?

How does that work?

You do realize that Trump is poisonous to the Republican party right?
They are dying off anyway since nobody under 30 years old cares about trans people or complaining that new movies are "woke".

However, Trump is moving the process forward much quicker than it would happen naturally.
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Originally Posted By BunkerBoy
"They" are terrified of the guy that lead to the Republicans losing the Presidency, House, and Senate when he went for re-election?

How does that work?

You do realize that Trump is poisonous to the Republican party right?
They are dying off anyway since nobody under 30 years old cares about trans people or complaining that new movies are "woke".

However, Trump is moving the process forward much quicker than it would happen naturally.
Cultist are so enthralled by their master they don't realize that the rest of country hates his guts. And while getting indicted may be a badge of honor for deplorable cultist, the majority normal part of the country prefer politicians not under indictment.

Trump is phuked. He'll grift from his moron cultist as long as possible then cop a plea in spring '24 or thereabouts.

Just lol at cultist and their criminal master.

Love this for you deplorables.
Early AM workout crew.
Holy crap dude, Satan's huge crew.
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Originally Posted By Phil9
DeShaun seething. He also is really chitty at math.







Awwww, you mad?
You’re fat and broke. So I’m still winning.
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Originally Posted By DeshaunWatson
You’re fat and broke. So I’m still winning.
You'll always be a winner to me boyo. Despite your unhealthy obsession with Trump.

I can overlook that.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie
Cultist are so enthralled by their master they don't realize that the rest of country hates his guts. And while getting indicted may be a badge of honor for deplorable cultist, the majority normal part of the country prefer politicians not under indictment.

Trump is phuked. He'll grift from his moron cultist as long as possible then cop a plea in spring '24 or thereabouts.

Just lol at cultist and their criminal master.

Love this for you deplorables.
My original prediction over a year ago was that Trump would run, then drop out amid prosecution. Only at that time I thought New York was going to find something on his children going to prison, so to save them he would accept a plea deal that involved him dropping out of the race.

Now I don’t think him accepting a plea is likely. He can afford a conviction in the NY Stormy Daniels trial scheduled for April. That’s a bullchit case where even the left admits Alvin Bragg stretched the law to unprecedented lengths for the sole purpose of getting Trump. I haven’t heard any legal minds speak favorably about that one. He might even get acquitted.

The Jack Smith trials are damning to be fair, currently scheduled for summer 2024, but will probably be postponed even further. If beyond the election, Trump has no reason to even consider a plea. He’ll he in it to win it.

All that said, how you can’t even put your bias aside to admit piling on 4 indictments in a 4 month span is political persecution, well for all this talk of deplorables, that’s very telling of your character.
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Originally Posted By GuineaDago585
My original prediction over a year ago was that Trump would run, then drop out amid prosecution. Only at that time I thought New York was going to find something on his children going to prison, so to save them he would accept a plea deal that involved him dropping out of the race.

Now I don’t think him accepting a plea is likely. He can afford a conviction in the NY Stormy Daniels trial scheduled for April. That’s a bullchit case where even the left admits Alvin Bragg stretched the law to unprecedented lengths for the sole purpose of getting Trump. I haven’t heard any legal minds speak favorably about that one. He might even get acquitted.

The Jack Smith trials are damning to be fair, currently scheduled for summer 2024, but will probably be postponed even further. If beyond the election, Trump has no reason to even consider a plea. He’ll he in it to win it.

All that said, how you can’t even put your bias aside to admit piling on 4 indictments in a 4 month span is political persecution, well for all this talk of deplorables, that’s very telling of your character.
Political persecution? Trump was indicted by a grand jury based on EVIDENCE given. Explain how that's political persecution.

The January 6th indictment and the GA indictment are both likely slam dunks too. Trump is on tape bragging about a classified document and showing it to folks. The feds have that document and likely testimony from several close to Trump.

Trump flaunted our country's laws, acted like they don't apply to him. He phuked around and now he's finding out.
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Originally Posted By GuineaDago585
My original prediction over a year ago was that Trump would run, then drop out amid prosecution. Only at that time I thought New York was going to find something on his children going to prison, so to save them he would accept a plea deal that involved him dropping out of the race.

Now I don’t think him accepting a plea is likely. He can afford a conviction in the NY Stormy Daniels trial scheduled for April. That’s a bullchit case where even the left admits Alvin Bragg stretched the law to unprecedented lengths for the sole purpose of getting Trump. I haven’t heard any legal minds speak favorably about that one. He might even get acquitted.

The Jack Smith trials are damning to be fair, currently scheduled for summer 2024, but will probably be postponed even further. If beyond the election, Trump has no reason to even consider a plea. He’ll he in it to win it.

All that said, how you can’t even put your bias aside to admit piling on 4 indictments in a 4 month span is political persecution, well for all this talk of deplorables, that’s very telling of your character.
The Stormy Daniels thing is a stretch. With the documents case, though, it's pretty clear he's guilty of everything he's been charged with - they have recordings and testimony to back up everything. The only "politicization" is that the DOJ isn't going as hard at the Bidens as they have been at Trump, but that's not a defense of Trump. He's guilty and is going to be convicted if there is no plea deal. It's just a shame that the same thing can't be said of Hunter (and possibly Joe as well).
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