Making money with YouTube

07-28-2023, 11:55 PM

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Making money with YouTube

MISC, aware me on these non-commentary gameplay channels making hundreds of dollars (according to social blade) a day uploading casual gameplay with no webcam or microphone.

Example:

Channels:
NoAnnoyingCommentary:
319K subs | 1.6K videos
$1.5K-24.1K/month | $18.1K-289.4K/year
111.8M video views
CoD Warzone

MarshalNoCommentary:
217K subs | 1.7K videos
$666-10.7K/month | $8K-127.8K/year
73.4M video views
CoD Warzone

Apollo432:
655K subs | 2.8K videos
$183-2.9K/month | $2.2K-35.2K/year
281M video views
Battlefield, CoD, etc.
^This guy has 600K subs but seems to have taken long breaks.

blackdog47tv
13.5K subs | 1K videos
$43-695/month | $521-8.3K/year
6.5M video views
Battlefield

Livox - 4K Gaming
9K subs | 821 videos
$48-776/month | $576-9.2K/year
4.9M video views
Battlefield/FPS

Let's not forget the goat MKIceAndFire bringing in thousands a day having not spoken a word making $5K-80K a month at 7K uploads and 3.5M subscribers with 1.9B views.

Is it as lucrative as it seems?

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07-29-2023, 12:00 AM

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Do you think there is someone on this board that would have more time to invest and find all this siht that you did regarding this and be able to give you the answers your looking for?

07-29-2023, 12:08 AM

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Pick a niche and start making videos consistently. You probably already have a phone that shoots good enough to start. Youtube is the GOAT because it takes effort unlike twitter or insta chitposting, so there's not much competition.

There was a dude living in my old apartment who has a youtube channel (i recognized he lived in my building from the b-roll shots), just makes stupid videos about his niche. Writes the script, shoots the vid and the b-roll, puts out a video every week or every other week. 300k subscribers now. Drove a nice mustang in his 20s.

IDK how much his parents helped him out tho to afford the place and the ride.

Just start it and keep going and you'd probably be able to live on it in a few years.

07-29-2023, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted By CockHorse⏩

Do you think there is someone on this board that would have more time to invest and find all this siht that you did regarding this and be able to give you the answers your looking for?

Miscers of the past were quite insightful even if lacking knowledge of subject matter.

Originally Posted By benedetto27⏩

Pick a niche and start making videos consistently. You probably already have a phone that shoots good enough to start. Youtube is the GOAT because it takes effort unlike twitter or insta chitposting, so there's not much competition.

There was a dude living in my old apartment who has a youtube channel (i recognized he lived in my building from the b-roll shots), just makes stupid videos about his niche. Writes the script, shoots the vid and the b-roll, puts out a video every week or every other week. 300k subscribers now. Drove a nice mustang in his 20s.

IDK how much his parents helped him out tho to afford the place and the ride.

Just start it and keep going and you'd probably be able to live on it in a few years.

How in the world did you stumble across his channel.
No doubt consistency is key.

07-29-2023, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted By naaboo⏩

Miscers of the past were quite insightful even if lacking knowledge of subject matter.
How in the world did you stumble across his channel.
No doubt consistency is key.

I was looking for a new phone in 2020 and didn't know much about them, found his vids ranking phones, started watching a few more vids, then realized he was Canadian, then from my city, then from my very apartment and I recognized it was that guy I saw with the Mustang lol.

I moved out at the end of 2020 so I never said hi...too much of a miscer heh.

07-29-2023, 07:14 AM

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Misc Mathemeticians GTFIH!

We gotta get down to the bottom of this.

Originally Posted By benedetto27⏩

...I moved out at the end of 2020 so I never said hi...too much of a miscer heh.

Typical miscer, lol. That's pretty gnarly though dude I'd have bought a lottery ticket if I found my old apartment in a video. What phone did you end up getting?

07-29-2023, 07:19 AM

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social blade is probably not accurate. i remember reading in the past that gaming channels don't make much due to copyright issues with gaming videos. don't know if true.

the key is making high quality content, use good clickbait headlines and thumbnails, and try to advertise other sources of income in the videos. you can also make additional channels with clips from your long videos or youtube shorts.

headless and how-to get rich youtube channels are kinda popular how as well. in headless channels it's jus the person narrating some video with their own or someone else's voice (ex: politics, games, some celeb news), while in how-to videos people pretend to be experts on something (ex: how to make money on youtube), and just create tons of content trying to sell bs. using ai (chatgpt & midjourney) is also popular at the moment.

07-29-2023, 07:25 AM

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It's a lot harder now with so much content and competition.

07-29-2023, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted By benedetto27⏩

Pick a niche and start making videos consistently.

this. i found some weird GTA roleplay video and ending up speding like 5-6 hours watching a bunch. dudes vids are interesting plus his persona is funny af. i dont even play GTA (but have).

07-29-2023, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted By ispy⏩

social blade is probably not accurate. i remember reading in the past that gaming channels don't make much due to copyright issues with gaming videos. don't know if true.

the key is making high quality content, use good clickbait headlines and thumbnails, and try to advertise other sources of income in the videos. you can also make additional channels with clips from your long videos or youtube shorts.

headless and how-to get rich youtube channels are kinda popular how as well. in headless channels it's jus the person narrating some video with their own or someone else's voice (ex: politics, games, some celeb news), while in how-to videos people pretend to be experts on something (ex: how to make money on youtube), and just create tons of content trying to sell bs. using ai (chatgpt & midjourney) is also popular at the moment.

Gaming is def low on the totem pole. So you'd say quality over quantity? A reverse of what these guys are actually doing (not that their content is bad).

I know those "make money online" and other finance channels are in demand since it directly involves money which brings in better sponsors etc. I've wanted to delve into a headless channel narrating horror stories but haven't acted upon it yet lol. I just thought these guys were making a decent amount of $$$ for not much effort.

Originally Posted By ScrillaIsBake⏩

This. I ran my gaming channel with 10k subs. It's a grind to grow your page srs. You won't make any money until you get 100k subs at least

A lot of videos were demonetized due to background music and chit

What type of gaming videos were you creating? Let's play/first impressions, etc. And which games were you playing?

Originally Posted By Shortfuze⏩

It's a lot harder now with so much content and competition.

Fuartk, figured. Even with monetization requirements lowered, everything is still a dime a dozen. BUT still. Ya know.

Originally Posted By SteadySmokin⏩

this. i found some weird GTA roleplay video and ending up speding like 5-6 hours watching a bunch. dudes vids are interesting plus his persona is funny af. i dont even play GTA (but have).

dammit that's actually pretty good and im prob gonna watch the whole thing now

07-29-2023, 07:44 AM

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Let me save you some time and a lot of heartache by saying the non-fun answer that get rich quick scheme fans don't like to talk about. Chances are, you're never going to make money off of youtube videos. Certainly nothing resembling a career, and the odds are stacked against you.

You say you want to start a gaming channel. There are hundreds of thousands of people just like you already doing the same thing. Hardly any of them get much for views, and you'd be competing with them all for attention. It takes a lot of luck at this point to get big on youtube, especially doing something as cliche as uploading gaming footage.

Then you say you don't want to add commentary to these hypothetical gaming videos you would be making. I get it, but by doing that, you're slashing your already low odds of success by about 95%. I'm sure there are some success stories with it, but only the biggest subset of autists consider watching someone else they don't know play video games on youtube to be legitimate entertainment.

My point is, understand that the odds are heavily stacked against you, especially when you aren't offering anything different or interesting than the other millions of people wanting to do the same thing. So don't get your hopes way up. No hate man, and good luck.

07-29-2023, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted By naaboo⏩

Gaming is def low on the totem pole. So you'd say quality over quantity? A reverse of what these guys are actually doing (not that their content is bad).

I know those "make money online" and other finance channels are in demand since it directly involves money which brings in better sponsors etc. I've wanted to delve into a headless channel narrating horror stories but haven't acted upon it yet lol. I just thought these guys were making a decent amount of $$$ for not much effort.

What type of gaming videos were you creating? Let's play/first impressions, etc. And which games were you playing?

Fuartk, figured. Even with monetization requirements lowered, everything is still a dime a dozen. BUT still. Ya know.

dammit that's actually pretty good and im prob gonna watch the whole thing now

Gaming isn't low on the totem pole imo.

Look at all those twitch ****s making 12 million a month

I do think it may be saturated. But it's a good niche cause it's so broad - and you don't have to be a winner in life (narrowing your pool). You got literally every niche combined in a niche, cause it's a made up world

I have to say, I've done niches people said were saturated. For instance, health and lifestyle.. and I never finished my site and I only advertised once but I made money off of it despite that

07-29-2023, 08:03 AM

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If the gods wanted you to have money

You would have been born into a wealthy family or won the lotto

Not to sound disheartening but its already been written

The channels you see that seem unbelievably easy because they are friends & family of YouTube employees keep it in the family so to speak

They all follow a certain narrative that changes regularly if your not in the know you always a few steps behind which is enough for you channel to never get enough attention

Sad but true

07-29-2023, 08:08 AM

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Try it and let us know how it goes brah

07-29-2023, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted By Omnivium⏩

Try it and let us know how it goes brah

Ive seen hundreds of channels with gigachad strong content hundreds of videos yet never get over 1000 views, 100% professional content

They want you to think if buy all the gear it’s easy

They just selling electronics to you for a profit

07-29-2023, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted By OzzyDio⏩

Let me save you some time and a lot of heartache by saying the non-fun answer that get rich quick scheme fans don't like to talk about. Chances are, you're never going to make money off of youtube videos. Certainly nothing resembling a career, and the odds are stacked against you.

Browser crashed so rewritting my response fml.

You've made great points I'd like to tackle.

You say you want to start a gaming channel. There are hundreds of thousands of people just like you already doing the same thing. Hardly any of them get much for views, and you'd be competing with them all for attention. It takes a lot of luck at this point to get big on youtube, especially doing something as cliche as uploading gaming footage.

Not just any type of gaming channel, the laziest form of gaming channels. And not just any type of gaming vids, things some ppl for whatever reason have no problem watching. Granted that the money would be worth recording and uploading 15-30mins of gaming you already do, with minimal post-production. You'd sort of hope the lifejacket reaches you like your predecessors. Ofc there're things you can do to make yourself more likely saved than others, but the situation is bleak. It's definitely a low effort gamble.

Then you say you don't want to add commentary to these hypothetical gaming videos you would be making. I get it, but by doing that, you're slashing your already low odds of success by about 95%. I'm sure there are some success stories with it, but only the biggest subset of autists consider watching someone else they don't know play video games on youtube to be legitimate entertainment.

I suppose this would be our target demographic, lol, BUT I am a man of experimentation and if there's a possibility to add my voice in a way that doesn't require me to think too hard about the gameplay, I could see myself testing commentary as well. What I'm trying to grasp is low effort videos people somehow gravitate towards because it fills some need that's also potentially lucrative, but then again idk how much these guys are making. It's like wanting to be a YTer w/o being an actual YTer. Which is why I've been analyzing these channels and their communities to see wtf gives. Ofc this all depends on them making decent cash. In my mind, I can pop out videos like these with my hands tied behind my back (skill being another topic).

My point is, understand that the odds are heavily stacked against you, especially when you aren't offering anything different or interesting than the other millions of people wanting to do the same thing. So don't get your hopes way up. No hate man, and good luck.

Agreed, that is the entire point of this movement, doing the least and scraping by somehow.

I can totally put more effort in if required tho I think this is an interesting "loophole" worth diving into.

07-29-2023, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted By buwbs⏩

Ive seen hundreds of channels with gigachad strong content hundreds of videos yet never get over 1000 views, 100% professional content

They want you to think if buy all the gear it’s easy

They just selling electronics to you for a profit

No, surely OP will be one of the 0.000001% of people who can make a living off playing video games and posting the footage online.

I lol'd at the part about no commentary. How low effort can you get? Nobody cares about those kinds of videos unless it's at least speed runs or something, and that's usually done with older games.

07-29-2023, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted By ScrillaIsBake⏩

I mostly uploaded my Twitch live streams to preserve them. Even Twitch is nearly impossible to grow. The sheer amount of people streaming and uploading content now is staggering, a lot of competition. But I played whatever games interested me at the time. So COD, 2k, Fortnite etc.

If you could create or pay someone to make highlights for you that'd prob be ideal. Then you could take shortform portions of those highlights to YT shorts and TikTok. Twitch is a b*tch. Make a Kick and stream on both platforms if you aren't under contract. Ofc none of this guarantees anything cuz life lol but still. I think you should go all the way if you still care about bettering your craft.

Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩

Gaming isn't low on the totem pole imo.

Look at all those twitch ****s making 12 million a month

I do think it may be saturated. But it's a good niche cause it's so broad - and you don't have to be a winner in life (narrowing your pool). You got literally every niche combined in a niche, cause it's a made up world

I have to say, I've done niches people said were saturated. For instance, health and lifestyle.. and I never finished my site and I only advertised once but I made money off of it despite that

They're signing million dollar deals. When will it be my turn. srs. dear diary. Good point about the diff genres in gaming. Some folks like housing/avatar designing like Second Life or vein bursting speed adrenalin induced COD. Then there's VR and all this other stuff and simulations. I say, after the basic minimum one's efforts are realized.

Originally Posted By buwbs⏩

If the gods wanted you to have money

You would have been born into a wealthy family or won the lotto

Not to sound disheartening but its already been written

The channels you see that seem unbelievably easy because they are friends & family of YouTube employees keep it in the family so to speak

They all follow a certain narrative that changes regularly if your not in the know you always a few steps behind which is enough for you channel to never get enough attention

Sad but true

tours mars rover.

pack it up bois

Originally Posted By Omnivium⏩

Try it and let us know how it goes brah

maybe

07-29-2023, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted By OzzyDio⏩

No, surely OP will be one of the 0.000001% of people who can make a living off playing video games and posting the footage online.

I lol'd at the part about no commentary. How low effort can you get? Nobody cares about those kinds of videos unless it's at least speed runs or something, and that's usually done with older games.

Lol, who is going to let some newb in on the lucrative market, nobody

Ive got a friend with signed music to big EDM labels you know who many festivals he plays none

If your not in the circle they don’t let you in no matter how good the content is

Only chance of making money on a gaming channel is to start collaborating with others like a clan

Any of these YouTube programmers familys & friends can make the easy gaming content

07-29-2023, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted By buwbs⏩

Lol, who is going to let some newb in on the lucrative market, nobody

Ive got a friend with signed music to big EDM labels you know who many festivals he plays none

If your not in the circle they don’t let you in no matter how good the content is

Only chance of making money on a gaming channel is to start collaborating with others like a clan

Any of these YouTube programmers familys & friends can make the easy gaming content

We aren't here to ask anyone for permission we're here to kick them in the shin and take it from them.

Alright it's not a hostile takeover I just want piece of the pie.

Perhaps they benefited greatly from the jab while everyone was home.
Gotta do more research to understand where they went right. I'm sure it mostly boils down to consistency since after a while I'd imagine similar channels quitting after not going anywhere. The ones that survive gain all the viewership.

Originally Posted By ScrillaIsBake⏩

I did make clips and stuff, they helped a bit. I was a Twitch affiliate so yeah I was under contract I could only stream on Twitch. Had to wait 24 hours to upload to YT. I do graphic design so I had 10/10 layout, sponsors, high end streaming equipment, I was entertaining, good at every game I played and still it wasn't enough after streaming for 2 years

fuark, it's okay boyo. at least you still have your cool gear and the ability to create whatever type of entertainment you want to show to the world. not sure if you still stream, but at least you gave it a shot. (try youtube, srs. 500 subs for monetization and you don't have to smile to a damn camera all day)

07-29-2023, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted By naaboo⏩

We aren't here to ask anyone for permission we're here to kick them in the shin and take it from them.

Alright it's not a hostile takeover I just want piece of the pie.

Perhaps they benefited greatly from the jab while everyone was home.
Gotta do more research to understand where they went right. I'm sure it mostly boils down to consistency since after a while I'd imagine similar channels quitting after not going anywhere. The ones that survive gain all the viewership.

fuark, it's okay boyo. at least you still have your cool gear and the ability to create whatever type of entertainment you want to show to the world. not sure if you still stream, but at least you gave it a shot. (try youtube, srs. 500 subs for monetization and you don't have to smile to a damn camera all day)

I 100% guarantee you’ll earn more money easier working a minimum wage job

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Like others have mentioned, it's pretty competitive and saturated though the monetization requirements for YouTube are a little easier.

One marketing tool that a lot of YouTubers don't use is TikTok, srs. Posting short entertaining clips of your videos will help you build an audience then you can link your YouTube channel for people that want to see more of your content.

It won't guarantee growth, but it will help you reach a wider audience.

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Originally Posted By buwbs⏩

I 100% guarantee you’ll earn more money easier working a minimum wage job

That is true and the better option if you had to choose between the two 80% of the time. The idea is that the endeavor involves very little time. You already play games, so all you'd be doing is recording that along with slight trimming to the beginning and end. Ofc it all depends how much editing you want which according to the example channels, barely any. This involves analysis and experimentation to find what clicks because of the high excruciatingly slow growth rate. You're basically doing slightly more than your competitors and gradually shifting the balance and momentum in an attempt to slowly "hijack an audience" into a shinier home. Ofc people are stubborn which is why you hold your foot in the door announce you're there to give yourself more coverage. note: nothing these channels do is hard. editing is less than one minute and then you're uploading.

Originally Posted By ScrillaIsBake⏩

Yeah I still have all my equipment except for that Ring Light I used to light my face up for the webcam. Hated that thing srs

I don't stream anymore, it's too much work. Felt more like work than fun srs. I gave it my all tho 100% srs

Ring light sounds like a flash light directly into your eyeball lol.

Now you can put that time into something else and honestly you'll enjoy time spent gaming a lot more.

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Like others have mentioned, it's pretty competitive and saturated though the monetization requirements for YouTube are a little easier.

One marketing tool that a lot of YouTubers don't use is TikTok, srs. Posting short entertaining clips of your videos will help you build an audience then you can link your YouTube channel for people that want to see more of your content.

It won't guarantee growth, but it will help you reach a wider audience.

I created an online persona last year or 2021 I don't remember but it involved a video game character in Red Dead Redemption. I made a YouTube, Twitter, and TikTok account for it. I'd make skits out of random clips I had while playing that were no longer than like 16 seconds (avg 10 secs) and it was successful. iirc I had 260 followers and about 10 short tiktok clips which earned 1K+ views on nearly all. I'd post the raw vid on YT that was about 30 seconds, shorten it for TikTok into 10-15 second clips, added AI voice over, told relevant stories using game related moments all in the span of 10 seconds. People liked it but Red Dead Online turned into garbage so I left the persona in the dark. I learned a fair amount of what TikTokers entertained and how shorter to-the-point was better.

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Originally Posted By naaboo⏩

I created an online persona last year or 2021 I don't remember but it involved a video game character in Red Dead Redemption. I made a YouTube, Twitter, and TikTok account for it. I'd make skits out of random clips I had while playing that were no longer than like 16 seconds (avg 10 secs) and it was successful. iirc I had 260 followers and about 10 short tiktok clips which earned 1K+ views on nearly all. I'd post the raw vid on YT that was about 30 seconds, shorten it for TikTok into 10-15 second clips, added AI voice over, told relevant stories using game related moments all in the span of 10 seconds. People liked it but Red Dead Online turned into garbage so I left the persona in the dark. I learned a fair amount of what TikTokers entertained and how shorter to-the-point was better.

Sounds like you already know what you need to stand out srs. At this point it's just finding a game or games to fill your niche.

Good luck breh.

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I make $3500 per month on youtube & it's just raw screen footage of me posting on the misc, in silence.

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Bro my cousin's husband (well they're actually divorcing now after 10 years married with 2 kids) took over his dad's business after he died, and started making youtube videos of the process. He's extremely artsy and made every video like some sort of mini project with voice overs and made it a story.

He has close to 2 million subscribers now and a couple years ago even he was saying he was making 10-20k profit a month from views and sponsorships on youtube which was more than his business lmao. Chicks were sending him letters and stuff they made for him, he has loyal followers and started a patreon for the loyal followers and made more money off that.

It's incredible what you can make from creating content or entertainment from your own home. I think this is where your "passion" or niche in life shines through. People pick up on people being passionate about stuff and live vicariously through that a lot. Look at that autistic nerd on instagram that gained fame overnight from posting his goofy face and reactions to trains in the UK and absolutely blowing his load over random types of trains. People loved it simply because he showed unrivaled joy in something he loved even if we think it's completely retarded.

It definitely takes time though, but can pay off in the end.

07-29-2023, 11:52 AM

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Google AI is here to tell you it’s possible pmsl

Surely you know how the world works by now ?

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If it was as lucrative as they want you to think it is, lots of chinese companies would already be capitalizing on it.

there would be multiple companies doing it.

08-02-2023, 04:00 AM

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Boyos, I created a YT channel and will now start to upload gaming videos at least once a day for the remainder of August. We are on day 2, so there're 2 uploads currently. Can I cover at least a fraction of what our non-comm gameplay overloads have done over the years in the month of August.

Originally Posted By Voidgaze⏩

Sounds like you already know what you need to stand out srs. At this point it's just finding a game or games to fill your niche.

Good luck breh.

Thanks brah! Time to get down to the bottom of this.

Originally Posted By Channel83⏩

I make $3500 per month on youtube & it's just raw screen footage of me posting on the misc, in silence.

dasit

Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩

Bro my cousin's husband (well they're actually divorcing now after 10 years married with 2 kids) took over his dad's business after he died, and started making youtube videos of the process. He's extremely artsy and made every video like some sort of mini project with voice overs and made it a story.

He has close to 2 million subscribers now and a couple years ago even he was saying he was making 10-20k profit a month from views and sponsorships on youtube which was more than his business lmao. Chicks were sending him letters and stuff they made for him, he has loyal followers and started a patreon for the loyal followers and made more money off that.

It's incredible what you can make from creating content or entertainment from your own home. I think this is where your "passion" or niche in life shines through. People pick up on people being passionate about stuff and live vicariously through that a lot. Look at that autistic nerd on instagram that gained fame overnight from posting his goofy face and reactions to trains in the UK and absolutely blowing his load over random types of trains. People loved it simply because he showed unrivaled joy in something he loved even if we think it's completely retarded.

It definitely takes time though, but can pay off in the end.

Sponsorships can skyrocket your revenue. I've heard of how much big Twitch streamers would get just to play games and it's like $15K+ a pop and usually even more for a couple hours of work. There's a YTer that goes around cutting people's grass for free, which provides him content and earns him his living. The online content creation world is wild.

Originally Posted By crupiea⏩

If it was as lucrative as they want you to think it is, lots of chinese companies would already be capitalizing on it.

there would be multiple companies doing it.

True. I'm sure YT has implementations to deal with that. Suppose there's only one way to find out.