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I notice zero difference between consuming 30g of protein vs 200g of protein
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tracking protein is part of body dysmorphia that people who lift usually have...it's so common/profitable that medical professionals don't even diagnose it when hidden under the guise of "fitness".
how many people have you heard of having health problems/dying from too little protein?
how many people have you heard of having health problems/dying from too little protein?
08-01-2023, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted By DrugsToGetBig⏩
Obviously.in my experiences, i sort of agree. you don't need 2 grams per lb of body weight or any bro science **** like that. you simply need enough to recover
The point is,you don't know that number.
Ok.
So since no one knows that number, you over supply the resources so as to optimize the potential.
Obvious logic is too obvious to even feel good explaining to people...
08-01-2023, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell⏩
Funny timing but there was just a thread yesterday about some chick starving to death as a vegantracking protein is part of body dysmorphia that people who lift usually have...it's so common/profitable that medical professionals don't even diagnose it when hidden under the guise of "fitness".
how many people have you heard of having health problems/dying from too little protein?
how many people have you heard of having health problems/dying from too little protein?
08-01-2023, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted By Condo41⏩
she was likely retarded. a normal person is going to naturally have hunger for foods that have what it takes to live.Funny timing but there was just a thread yesterday about some chick starving to death as a vegan
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The "you need more than 100 grams of protein" is ALL marketing BS and most of the "studies" are funded by supplement/protein shake companies.
It's a fcking scam.
It's a fcking scam.
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Originally Posted By notbadnotbrad⏩
Anything above 0.67g/lb of bw doesn’t do anything if you’re natty
I remember when I was young and believed the protein meme and would stuff myself with food like a glutton to hit my 200 grams like an absolute fat moron
I remember when I was young and believed the protein meme and would stuff myself with food like a glutton to hit my 200 grams like an absolute fat moron
Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
ExactlyThe "you need more than 100 grams of protein" is ALL marketing BS and most of the "studies" are funded by supplement/protein shake companies.
It's a fcking scam.
It's a fcking scam.
Originally Posted By AshWar⏩
It's cause you upped your total calories.Fwiw I took my protein intake from 140g to 200g and it made a huge difference (srs)
08-01-2023, 11:08 AM
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On average 200 grams a day for me. I don't find it hard to hit those numbers either. Real food. Not frozen chit "meats" full of soy protein either, or protein powder.
I find ground beef is the GOAT energy boost.
I find ground beef is the GOAT energy boost.
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Originally Posted By gmenfan40⏩
I'm a manlet, so shame on you for expecting a different result (Super Ded fkn Srs)Those are twink numbers. (Super Ded fkn Srs)
08-01-2023, 11:22 AM
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Extremely wrong srs
08-01-2023, 11:26 AM
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I notice a tremendous difference between 30g and 200g brah.
Now 100g vs. 200g might be a different story. I honestly think you can easily get away with .6/lb of body weight and excel in your gains.
Now 100g vs. 200g might be a different story. I honestly think you can easily get away with .6/lb of body weight and excel in your gains.
08-01-2023, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted By Condo41⏩
this!I notice a gigantic difference.
Maybe your genetics suck at optimizing protein?
Maybe your genetics suck at optimizing protein?
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I notice a huge difference when eating low protein. Ive tried the high carb high fat low protein thing multiple times before and it went terribly wrong. Plus, eating low protein sucks even without the gains/feeling aspect, brb cant have actual dense food, what am i supposed to eat instead to reach my 3.5k calorie goal? a kilogram of oatmeal by itself?
Biologically, low protein doesnt make sense. Imagine a million years ago, a human moving and hunting all day burning 3-5k daily calories, you think they would just go to a 7-eleven and buy some cocoa puffs? Or just stuff their face with 100 apples to reach their calories? Nah man, they would hunt, they would devour a deer, a few squirrels, multiple fishes etc to get their calories (fat and protein)
Biologically, low protein doesnt make sense. Imagine a million years ago, a human moving and hunting all day burning 3-5k daily calories, you think they would just go to a 7-eleven and buy some cocoa puffs? Or just stuff their face with 100 apples to reach their calories? Nah man, they would hunt, they would devour a deer, a few squirrels, multiple fishes etc to get their calories (fat and protein)
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Originally Posted By Condo41⏩
Sounds a bit like correlation=/= causation here. Most of the people consuming 200+g of protein are pro bbers who are obviously not natty. The extra protein helps but training, good genetics, and celltech are all far greater contributors to why they look so good.Guys who say you don't need more than X amount are always tiny and in bad shape or don't have pics.
The guys who say 200+ are always gigantic.
The guys who say 200+ are always gigantic.
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Originally Posted By kingmanaverage⏩
Hey guys seems like certain eating habits and weight training gives people good physiquesSounds a bit like correlation=/= causation here. Most of the people consuming 200+g of protein are pro bbers who are obviously not natty. The extra protein helps but training, good genetics, and celltech are all far greater contributors to why they look so good.
OMG CORRELATION =/= CAUSATION
Maybe you should learn that it isn't "correlation disproves causation" and it is rather "correlation doesn't NECESSARILY mean cauasation" you uneducated reddit *******. Correlation can prove causation just fine.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
What sort of difference are you talking about?I notice a huge difference when eating low protein. Ive tried the high carb high fat low protein thing multiple times before and it went terribly wrong. Plus, eating low protein sucks even without the gains/feeling aspect, brb cant have actual dense food, what am i supposed to eat instead to reach my 3.5k calorie goal? a kilogram of oatmeal by itself?
Biologically, low protein doesnt make sense. Imagine a million years ago, a human moving and hunting all day burning 3-5k daily calories, you think they would just go to a 7-eleven and buy some cocoa puffs? Or just stuff their face with 100 apples to reach their calories? Nah man, they would hunt, they would devour a deer, a few squirrels, multiple fishes etc to get their calories (fat and protein)
Biologically, low protein doesnt make sense. Imagine a million years ago, a human moving and hunting all day burning 3-5k daily calories, you think they would just go to a 7-eleven and buy some cocoa puffs? Or just stuff their face with 100 apples to reach their calories? Nah man, they would hunt, they would devour a deer, a few squirrels, multiple fishes etc to get their calories (fat and protein)
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Originally Posted By Condo41⏩
It's a moot point unless everything else is controlled.Why do you keep asking this when it's been answered and you know the answer is GAINZ
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Originally Posted By Condo41⏩
They would have good physiques regardless of if they ate 130 or 200g of protein you nonce. If 200g of protein really is the secret to looking like an ifbb pro then why guys like Jay Cutler and Ronnie Coleman already mog your physique at age 16.Hey guys seems like certain eating habits and weight training gives people good physiques
OMG CORRELATION =/= CAUSATION
Maybe you should learn that it isn't "correlation disproves causation" and it is rather "correlation doesn't NECESSARILY mean cauasation" you uneducated reddit *******. Correlation can prove causation just fine.
OMG CORRELATION =/= CAUSATION
Maybe you should learn that it isn't "correlation disproves causation" and it is rather "correlation doesn't NECESSARILY mean cauasation" you uneducated reddit *******. Correlation can prove causation just fine.
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Originally Posted By kingmanaverage⏩
Most IFBB pros are eating 400-600 grams of protein a day. Time to pack up and go back to reddit f@gg0t. (Super Ded fkn Srs)They would have good physiques regardless of if they ate 130 or 200g of protein you nonce. If 200g of protein really is the secret to looking like an ifbb pro then why guys like Jay Cutler and Ronnie Coleman already mog your physique at age 16.
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Originally Posted By gmenfan40⏩
Maybe the massive guys like Samson Dauda and Nick Walker. Google says Chris Bumstead only eats around 260-300g of protein and he weighs 230 shredded.Most IFBB pros are eating 400-600 grams of protein a day. Time to pack up and go back to reddit f@gg0t. (Super Ded fkn Srs)
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Originally Posted By kingmanaverage⏩
Cope ITT is unreal. Lol at thinking upping your protein actually helped you make gains without controlling for other variables.Maybe the massive guys like Samson Dauda and Nick Walker. Google says Chris Bumstead only eats around 260-300g of protein and he weighs 230 shredded.
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Originally Posted By kingmanaverage⏩
NattyMaybe the massive guys like Samson Dauda and Nick Walker. Google says Chris Bumstead only eats around 260-300g of protein and he weighs 230 shredded.
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For natties who actually lift and especially do intense cardio, I'd stick with 1g/lean body weight. I know it's anecdotal for me, personally, but I notice strength and mass in size upping my protein intake, while lowering my carbs to maintain a caloric intake. Also, to eat that much protein, I had to limit my carbs just so I can eat that much without feeling like I'm going to burst.
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I think every person is different and you need to do what is right for what you need.
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Originally Posted By Incelsavior⏩
It's broscience at it's worst. Obviously protein intake matters but it seems like some people literally believe that more protein always= more gains.Cope ITT is unreal. Lol at thinking upping your protein actually helped you make gains without controlling for other variables.
Originally Posted By Tuksonrider⏩
Agreed, 1g/lb is definitely a sweet spot for the vast majority of people.Natty
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For natties who actually lift and especially do intense cardio, I'd stick with 1g/lean body weight. I know it's anecdotal for me, personally, but I notice strength and mass in size upping my protein intake, while lowering my carbs to maintain a caloric intake. Also, to eat that much protein, I had to limit my carbs just so I can eat that much without feeling like I'm going to burst.
IFBB Pro
pick one.
For natties who actually lift and especially do intense cardio, I'd stick with 1g/lean body weight. I know it's anecdotal for me, personally, but I notice strength and mass in size upping my protein intake, while lowering my carbs to maintain a caloric intake. Also, to eat that much protein, I had to limit my carbs just so I can eat that much without feeling like I'm going to burst.
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