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I notice zero difference between consuming 30g of protein vs 200g of protein
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Originally Posted By freddyexists03⏩
Right, but again, I'll say this over and over, you Dont know what is right for yourself, so the goal is to provide excess resources in order to maximize the potential.I think every person is different and you need to do what is right for what you need.
Maybe your body needs 87.6g of protein to do what it needs. Well, we cannot know that. So what's better? 30g or 230g?
230g is better
Maybe your body needs 117.3452g protein to do what it needs to do. What's better? 30g protein, or 230g protein?
Obviously 230g is better.
Maybe your body needs 15.0003g protein to do what it needs to do. What's better? 30g protein, or 230g protein? It's a wash, no difference.
So obviously overloading the resource maximizes potential.
Conclusion, maximize the resource.
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Scientifically:
30-40g/meal optimizes MPS for around 4-5 hours
24/4=6
35g protein every 6 hours is what physically will cap most people.
Upward max is therefore around 180-200g/day, assuming youd wake up to eat in the middle of the night to maximize gains
More needed if you are on a very low calorie diet, training at incredible volumes and intensities, etc.
30-40g/meal optimizes MPS for around 4-5 hours
24/4=6
35g protein every 6 hours is what physically will cap most people.
Upward max is therefore around 180-200g/day, assuming youd wake up to eat in the middle of the night to maximize gains
More needed if you are on a very low calorie diet, training at incredible volumes and intensities, etc.
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Originally Posted By Incelsavior⏩
I feel lethargic on low protein, i feel more sore and weaker so recovery is worse, gotta lower the weights on most movements, on top of that i feel bloated due to too much carbs and fats, etc.What sort of difference are you talking about?
You guys eat 100 grs of protein if you want (30 would be retarded), you do you, but to say that nattys shouldnt care about protein, now thats some retarded **** (srs)
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Stick to simping for SS in those pink threads boomer faaggot (ded fkn srs)Natty
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For natties who actually lift and especially do intense cardio, I'd stick with 1g/lean body weight. I know it's anecdotal for me, personally, but I notice strength and mass in size upping my protein intake, while lowering my carbs to maintain a caloric intake. Also, to eat that much protein, I had to limit my carbs just so I can eat that much without feeling like I'm going to burst.
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For natties who actually lift and especially do intense cardio, I'd stick with 1g/lean body weight. I know it's anecdotal for me, personally, but I notice strength and mass in size upping my protein intake, while lowering my carbs to maintain a caloric intake. Also, to eat that much protein, I had to limit my carbs just so I can eat that much without feeling like I'm going to burst.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
But you mentioned you are not natty?I feel lethargic on low protein, i feel more sore and weaker so recovery is worse, gotta lower the weights on most movements, on top of that i feel bloated due to too much carbs and fats, etc.
You guys eat 100 grs of protein if you want (30 would be retarded), you do you, but to say that nattys shouldnt care about protein, now thats some retarded **** (srs)
You guys eat 100 grs of protein if you want (30 would be retarded), you do you, but to say that nattys shouldnt care about protein, now thats some retarded **** (srs)
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Originally Posted By Incelsavior⏩
Yes, but i achieved a pretty damn perfect physique for my standards as a natty as well. Didnt do that by eating 30 grs of protein thats for sure.But you mentioned you are not natty?
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
You achieved a damn perfect physique for your standards as a natty and you decided to jump on steroids when you are not competing or work as a fitness influence? lmao. Thanks for the laugh.Yes, but i achieved a pretty damn perfect physique for my standards as a natty as well. Didnt do that by eating 30 grs of protein thats for sure.
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Originally Posted By Incelsavior⏩
Do you think that's unbelievable?You achieved a damn perfect physique for your standards as a natty and you decided to jump on steroids when you are not competing or work as a fitness influence? lmao. Thanks for the laugh.
I'm about capped as well as a natty and considering a cycle just to experience it for a while. Seems normal. I'm not competing or work as a fitness influencer at all
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why should healthy/natty people be in continual pursuit of muscle and strength gains? doesn't there come a point where things are essentially as good as they'll get over the long term?
most men i've known in real life didn't give a shyt about protein intake...they just ate when they were hungry. some did some exercise or played sports or did physically demanding work.
but again...where are the people with health problems that we can say are from not eating enough protein? putting people in pursuit of protein is kinda like having them chase material possessions...lots of money to be made from people continually consuming and wanting more.
most men i've known in real life didn't give a shyt about protein intake...they just ate when they were hungry. some did some exercise or played sports or did physically demanding work.
but again...where are the people with health problems that we can say are from not eating enough protein? putting people in pursuit of protein is kinda like having them chase material possessions...lots of money to be made from people continually consuming and wanting more.
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Originally Posted By Condo41⏩
Obviously insanely stupid thing to do when you can't predict how your body will respond to PEDs.Do you think that's unbelievable?
I'm about capped as well as a natty and considering a cycle just to experience it for a while. Seems normal. I'm not competing or work as a fitness influencer at all
I'm about capped as well as a natty and considering a cycle just to experience it for a while. Seems normal. I'm not competing or work as a fitness influencer at all
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Originally Posted By Incelsavior⏩
Yep. TRT has many other benefits and way more important id say, its not only used for muscle/size gains.You achieved a damn perfect physique for your standards as a natty and you decided to jump on steroids when you are not competing or work as a fitness influence? lmao. Thanks for the laugh.
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Originally Posted By Incelsavior⏩
Gotta risk it to get the biscuit buddyObviously insanely stupid thing to do when you can't predict how your body will respond to PEDs.
Some people are risk takers to achieve a goal.
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Originally Posted By Condo41⏩
Taking risks for exactly what? lolGotta risk it to get the biscuit buddy
Some people are risk takers to achieve a goal.
Some people are risk takers to achieve a goal.
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Originally Posted By Incelsavior⏩
the fact that you don’t understand explains so much brahTaking risks for exactly what? lol
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Originally Posted By Sevenlionz⏩
So you are on roids as well? Is there any natty on misc? JFLthe fact that you don’t understand explains so much brah
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Not sure how it's possible to eat that little protein if you're eating oats and pasta all day that's 60g?
Wtf are u eating lmao? U vegan? Not even vegans eat that little i think, must be a crackhead drinking sugar or some chit
Wtf are u eating lmao? U vegan? Not even vegans eat that little i think, must be a crackhead drinking sugar or some chit
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Originally Posted By ye193x⏩
I dont think OPs thinking even 10 seconds ahead bro, he just post whatever comes to his mind instantly lol.Not sure how it's possible to eat that little protein if you're eating oats and pasta all day that's 60g?
Wtf are u eating lmao? U vegan? Not even vegans eat that little i think, must be a crackhead drinking sugar or some chit
Wtf are u eating lmao? U vegan? Not even vegans eat that little i think, must be a crackhead drinking sugar or some chit
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
Sorry I made you mad for calling you out for being a juicer. Please accept my apology.I dont think OPs thinking even 10 seconds ahead bro, he just post whatever comes to his mind instantly lol.
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Originally Posted By Incelsavior⏩
Let me think about it brah will let you knowSorry I made you mad for calling you out for being a juicer. Please accept my apology.
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Protein is the most important nutrient if you want to be muscular. I don't buy any supplements and haven't used protein powder in years. So I'm not making money shilling powders.
You should stick to at least 1g of protein per pound of body-weight as a minimum. I think even if you are 150lbs you should likely be eating at least 200g of protein per day.
You should stick to at least 1g of protein per pound of body-weight as a minimum. I think even if you are 150lbs you should likely be eating at least 200g of protein per day.
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Originally Posted By guest89⏩
Yeah, there's almost no scientific study that supports your claim.Protein is the most important nutrient if you want to be muscular. I don't buy any supplements and haven't used protein powder in years. So I'm not making money shilling powders.
You should stick to at least 1g of protein per pound of body-weight as a minimum. I think even if you are 150lbs you should likely be eating at least 200g of protein per day.
You should stick to at least 1g of protein per pound of body-weight as a minimum. I think even if you are 150lbs you should likely be eating at least 200g of protein per day.
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Originally Posted By guest89⏩
the recommended amount for a 150lb man is what...50g? what would happen to this man if he simply did activities he enjoys and adds a few glasses of milk to his diet?Protein is the most important nutrient if you want to be muscular. I don't buy any supplements and haven't used protein powder in years. So I'm not making money shilling powders.
You should stick to at least 1g of protein per pound of body-weight as a minimum. I think even if you are 150lbs you should likely be eating at least 200g of protein per day.
You should stick to at least 1g of protein per pound of body-weight as a minimum. I think even if you are 150lbs you should likely be eating at least 200g of protein per day.
when you get into lifting weights to change the look of your body + drastic diet changes like having to consume 150-200g of protein daily...that's body dysmorphia. they way underestimate the number of men suffering from this now.
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Maybe there's some undiscovered genetic element affecting rate of protein absorption, because regardless of what some people here are claiming I've genuinely never noticed any significant difference in athletic performance over 150g of protein and I weigh slightly over 180lbs. The only thing that happens to me if I eat 200g+ of protein is I get more bloated and constipated.
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Originally Posted By kingmanaverage⏩
How serious are you about your training? What are your lifts? Its not as simple as saying "everybody needs X amout of protein", it all depends on the person's genetics and lifestyle.Maybe there's some undiscovered genetic element affecting rate of protein absorption, because regardless of what some people here are claiming I've genuinely never noticed any significant difference in athletic performance over 150g of protein and I weigh slightly over 180lbs. The only thing that happens to me if I eat 200g+ of protein is I get more bloated and constipated.
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I literally lose mass if I have less than 150g srs.
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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats⏩
You are not training properly then.I literally lose mass if I have less than 150g srs.
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bodybuilding is a cult. 99% of fitness "influencers" are retarded.
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