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post 1687731603 08-03-2023, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted By natypes
lol no fuks given. Whether the lands were stolen, conquered or bought, the mass number of people that came here made them irrelevant. Sorry, not sorry. It was how things worked back then.
Originally Posted By HayZues
That native people have a point and reason to be upset.
This.

It is what it is.
Originally Posted By markkillerings
I mean, native tribes were killing each other way before white people came. Can't be mad that somebody was just better at it.
They were fighting same race.

Brits went and fought an entirely different race. Not only did they fought a different race, they 3rd partied the Natives. That's why the US and the Brits are literal jokes of the world. Scattered when the Russians came and helped the Viets in the Vietnam war. They won't fight same level adversaries and lost to lower GDP countries and adversaries.
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post 1687732153 08-03-2023, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted By theory816
They were fighting same race.
What the hell does that have to do with anything? Natives were killing and conquering each other. Whites came and did the same to them. Simple. Like I said, can't be mad. Whites were just better at it.
post 1687732223 08-03-2023, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted By markkillerings
What the hell does that have to do with anything? Natives were killing and conquering each other. Whites came and did the same to them. Simple. Like I said, can't be mad. Whites were just better at it.
Different goals.

Brits and Spaniards wanted to straight up steal land and kill all natives.

Natives fight to establish political idealogy that have more in common with the fighting tribes(civil wars)
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post 1687732333 08-03-2023, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted By theory816
Different goals.
Lulz. No, it's simple. One group wants to kill and conquer. The other group wanted to do the same. Natives were just inferior to the whites.
post 1687732353 08-03-2023, 07:02 PM
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post 1687732483 08-03-2023, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted By markkillerings
Lulz. No, it's simple. One group wants to kill and conquer. The other group wanted to do the same. Natives were just inferior to the whites.
Lol the whites did have superior metallurgy I aint even gonna front. But the way they carried themselves was highly questionable.
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post 1687732563 08-03-2023, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted By theory816
Lol the whites did have superior metallurgy I aint even gonna front. But the way they carried themselves was highly questionable.
Yeah, I'm really sure they were concerned with the optics. Lulz.
post 1687732693 08-03-2023, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted By markkillerings
Yeah, I'm really sure they were concerned with the optics. Lulz.
Meh. Low IQs can't see into the future for the the consequences of their actions.

Now that everyone else knows the all whites's tricks, what then?
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post 1687732853 08-03-2023, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted By theory816
Meh. Low IQs can't see into the future for the the consequences of their actions.

Now that everyone else knows the all whites's tricks, what then?
Better to be hated than dead. Lulz.
post 1687733223 08-03-2023, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted By markkillerings
Better to be hated than dead. Lulz.
Sometimes it better to die with dignity then to live with shame for the rest of your life.

Each person only have 80 years and that chit goes by quick, son.
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post 1687733413 08-03-2023, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted By theory816
America is already slowly dieying.
Well, nothing lasts forever. But at least it was great while it lasted. Imagine if the the Natives had won. Would probably still be living in teepees and trying to cure cancer by blowing smoke into somebody's face and smearing buffalo dung on their chest. Haha.
post 1687733513 08-03-2023, 07:26 PM
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Apparently the first use of the word “racist” was used against the natives
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post 1687733653 08-03-2023, 07:28 PM
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Just sore losers the way I see it.

Face it, life is a competition.
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post 1687733663 08-03-2023, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1
Face it, life is a competition.
Not really.
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post 1687733693 08-03-2023, 07:30 PM
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All land is conquered land. Go back before white man and Indian tribes were conquering each other's land.
post 1687733823 08-03-2023, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted By bsrkoacar2
All land is conquered land. Go back before white man and Indian tribes were conquering each other's land.
not really the case for natives. They were wholly nomadic and didn't have a concept of "owning land" When they did fight one another it was due to scarcity of resources (during winter months)
post 1687734213 08-03-2023, 07:41 PM
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post 1687734323 08-03-2023, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted By theory816
Not really.
It most definitely is boyo

Everyone wants the hot loyal girl
Everyone wants to CEO job
Everyone wants to be the famous athlete/musician/actor
Everyone wants to be better looking than the next person

Look at all the useless sh*t we've turned into sport and games as a product of that need to win.

It's literally a competition for everything. Only the losers tell themselves it's not and that there's enough to go around for everyone to be winners
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post 1687734353 08-03-2023, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted By theory816
Sometimes it better to die with dignity then to live with shame for the rest of your life.

Each person only have 80 years and that chit goes by quick, son.
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Originally Posted By HayZues
That native people have a point and reason to be upset.
Give them your house phuggut
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1
It most definitely is boyo

Everyone wants the hot loyal girl
Everyone wants to CEO job
Everyone wants to be the famous athlete/musician/actor
Everyone wants to be better looking than the next person

Look at all the useless sh*t we've turned into sport and games as a product of that need to win.

It's literally a competition for everything. Only the losers tell themselves it's not and that there's enough to go around for everyone to be winners
Its been said before. Some competition is good. Too much is bad.
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post 1687735133 08-03-2023, 08:00 PM
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America had to be formed. The natives were standing in the way of human progress -- they were just too primitive. There's a reason they were called savages.

What do people expect anyway? Someone was going to land on their shores eventually. It was just a matter of time
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Originally Posted By Maestro
not really the case for natives. They were wholly nomadic and didn't have a concept of "owning land" When they did fight one another it was due to scarcity of resources (during winter months)
You need to read some history books. The natives were brutal and some tribes would travel extremely long distances to rape, torture, and kill. They were absolutely territorial.
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Originally Posted By stevebec
The plains Indians in particular were constantly at war with each other, stealing territory, horses, and captives from neighboring tribes. What whites did might have been on a larger scale, but nothing really different from what they were already doing to each other.
I mean, to be fair, they were probably also upset when the other Indians did it to them too. One does not need total and absolute moral justification and complete lack of hypocrisy to be upset about something.
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I mean we completely decimated their race to the point of almost complete genocide, can’t blame them for being upset

But they didn’t get so fat living off the land on traditional native foods nomsaiyan
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They had to pay to get in like everyone else so we not only took their land but also their money.
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Originally Posted By Maestro
Only the pacifist Natives still exist today (Navajo/Choctaw etc). There are many Native tribes that were completely wiped out because they fought to the bitter end.
Originally Posted By Maestro
not really the case for natives. They were wholly nomadic and didn't have a concept of "owning land" When they did fight one another it was due to scarcity of resources (during winter months)
Your understanding of native American's is very much the hollywood version of a bunch of nature loving hippies peacefully coexisting until whitey came over and fugged everything up. The reality is they were incredibly brutal and violent.

They raided. They raped. They pillaged. They looted and stole. They raped. They took prisoners and tortured them to death for sport. They took slaves. And they kidnapped. If the children they kidnapped cried too much or were too weak they'd bash their head in and discard them.

Some tribes were more peaceful and friendly then others. But it was typically because they were weaker. When Europeans arrived tribes that were weak were friendly to the newcomers and aligned with them to have the Europeans kill their rivals.


You're right they did not have a concept of owning land. But they did have concepts of owning slaves, horses, weapons, possessions, and racking up high kill counts for respect/clout. And while an individual did not own land. Tribes certainly claimed lands as their own and slaughtered anyone who encroached on it.


Most people have a hollywood idea of what natives were like. But this idea typically skips over the travesties the natives inflicted on each other and on peaceful European settlers. There are plenty of firsthand accounts from Europeans that lived among/with natives. As well as accounts from those that were captured as children and lived as captives among them for years before being rescued.


Europeans didn't get the idea to intentionally try to genocide the natives until they realized it was a 'them or us' scenario. Initially, Europeans tried to peacefully coexist. Especially religious families that only wanted a place to live/farm/raise their kids.
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