Told you, keep messaging to a minimum (at least at this stage)

I'm glad I waited to speak with her IRL instead of asking her out over text. I keep texts minimal and short. We'll get to know each other in person and hopefully build a connection.

I haven't heard back from the woman I may be having a date with this Friday. Didn't see her at the gym tonight. I'm still optimistic about it. She seems into the idea of hanging out with me. Is it beta to offer to reimburse her for the cost of the babysitter? I'm thinking I should potentially offer this at the end of our first date. I think it's probably weird to do it before our date, but I can imagine how lame it is for her to have to pay to hangout with me.

Also, I worked in on deadlifts with a woman I hadn't seen before at the gym tonight. We got to talking. She's pretty nice and was volunteering a lot of information, such as her occupation, last name, what she's doing tomorrow, etc. I enjoyed this, as women hardly do this with me when I just meet them. I got her number. She was impressed I could spell her first and last name, haha. I guess I'm justthat guy. I plan on texting her tomorrow so she has my number. I liked how the conversation flowed. No pick up lines were necessary. I asked her if she wanted to workout with me sometime and she said, "Yes." We'll see how it goes.

As a follow up to my previous post, I've yet to hear from the woman I was hoping to have a first date with tomorrow evening. I'm not sure what the play is here. I'm thinking therightthing to do is nothing at all. Sending a follow up message when I'm clearly waiting on her confirmation is a weak move. It's been almost 3 days since she said she would look into getting a babysitter for her kid.

I texted the woman I met yesterday. She is funny, kind, asks me lots of questions, and is nice to talk with. I plan on asking her out to dinner. It's hard to gauge how soon I should do this, but she's pretty responsive and seems interested in me so I figure there's no point in waiting.

It could be a weak move or a power move depending on what you say.

A busy guy with a life will have alternate plans available, and can't just sit back and wait for one woman to make up her mind at the last minute on Friday.

Put yourself in the mind of a man like this. What would you do?

hmm...

Assuming she hasnotreached out to me:
1. Don't text her. Go to the gym, as I normally do on Friday evenings. Play it cool and eventually speak with her IRL. seemsalpha.
2. Go to the restaurant and take someone else then text her a picture of the food and tell her she missed out. Realistically, the only person that would go with me on such short notice is my mom (lol). seemsalpha.
3. Text her, asking if she can make it to dinner. seemsbetabeta.
4. Text her, telling her I have a few things I'm considering tonight and would like to know if she can make it to dinner. seemsalpha.
5. Text her, saying we could instead go to a family-friendly place so she could bring her daughter and not have to pay a babysitter. seemsbetabetaand not appropriate considering it's a first date.
6. Ignore her. seemsalpha.

Assuming she has reached out and can make it to dinner:
1. Go on the date with her, as this is what I actually want. seemsidealideal.
2. Ignore her. seemsalpha.

Assuming she reached out stating she can't make it to dinner or some other excuse that isn't a flat out "I'm not interested in you":
1. Offer to reschedule. not sure how this seems given I don't know the context of her hypothetical message.
2. Ignore her. seemsalpha.

Assuming she reached out and said she's not interested in me:
1. It's ogre.ty for the reps and well wishes.

Any ideas on what to say? In b4 "Perfect, let's reschedule."

this is how imagine every person on this sick twisted forum looking like

[QUOTE=ArCaNe66 post_id=1688186033]Any ideas on what to say? In b4 "Perfect, let's reschedule."

[img]https://i.imgur.com/yJKfH4S.png[/img[/QUOTE]Not gonna reply to your overanalyzed decision tree, but I will advise you to stop thinking it's alpha to be disrespectful.

It was disrespectful of her to not respond sooner, but unfortunately this is standard avoidant flaking behavior.

I'd generally advise you not to bother with women who have kids. For multiple reasons.

:XI hope I'd never intentionally disrespect anyone. Your statement about being a man who is busy helped me craft my reply. I'm getting the vibe that she's not into me, but for some reason has strung me along. I agree - she should have given me a heads up. I feel like I can't be too picky. I wouldn't mind being in a relationship with a mom, but I'm sure your reasons for not dating a mom are good.

It's been close to a month since I created this thread. Finally, I have a date and it's with the woman I met this past Wednesday at the gym. Her replies to me are the exact opposite I've had from the other two women whose numbers I got from the gym. She seems to genuinely like me. The date is a week from today. I'll keep putting myself out there until I'm seriously dating someone. It may be her.

I kinda lol everytime I see this thread title. Anyway gz on date I c

Thank you, kangaroo brah. I would rep you, but I'm on spread.

Good luck. Admittedly, I did LOL at the investment advisor text.

Thank you very much. Haha, that's rich coming from BradLehman Brothers.

He's autistic as ****, he needs all the help he can get.You'll never look good naturally with your genetics. Sad, but true.Don't ever lift heavy lol, dumbest ****ing thing you can do in the gym.You're so ****ing clueless lol. You never pay for a chick unless she's your girl already.Lol, come meet me in person then ***got. You use the name and pic of a baseball player from the nineties. Kill yourself bitch.

Addressing each bolded line:
1. What do you mean by that? As in my face, my body, or both? Regardless, I disagree. I'm doing my best to lookmax. I don't have anysurgeryplanned, but I'm open to the idea if I'm still not in a loving relationship in 6-8 months.
2. I'm not sure why lifting heavy is bad. I had the weight under control the entire time. I'm trying to push myself to do more weight and improve my technique. I like to do controlled repetitions where I can feel my muscles working. For example, I don't bounce weights off my chest or divebomb in the squat.
3. I pay for everything for a woman I'm dating. I would get rejected if I don't.

You need tren ace, you're skinny-fat and way too meek. You need to **** a bunch of girls before even considering getting in a relationship so you know how to handle girls as a man (srs). You just need to stimulate the muscle and get a good pump, guys who lift heavy almost always look terrible (pro bodybuilders only do it for video). I've seen shredded beasts train like absolute pussies lol. I actually want you to succeed, but sometimes tough love is necessary, and what you're doing isn't working at all. I actually know what I'm talking about, I went from a virgin at 21 to ****ing about a hundred girls a decade later, and it would have been way more if I didn't waste so much time with poker (I used to play professionally).

I'm not skinny fat. Here's a pic of my face from last year when I was eating well and only doing bodyweight exercises. I am bigger now and am cutting. I will be leaner than I was in this pic.

However, I see your point about being with more women. I would like to try out dating many women and get a better feel for what I like. I hope being really lean will help with women. I don't think I'll ever use PEDs. I am stimulating my muscles by goingheavy.

You're not bad-looking, but the harsh truth is that you're a ****ing pussy. And women don't want another pussy, because they already have one lol. They want a super confident dickhead like me to come along and **** the **** out of them. There have been times where I've called girls ****s and had them sucking my dick a few days later lololol. I came across this a few months ago, it's pretty spot-on.



No one else in your circle will ever tell you this, either because they don't know what it takes to be a slayer or they don't wanna hurt your feelings (usually both).

[QUOTE=jamiejammer post_id=1688259133]You're not bad-looking, but the harsh truth is that you're a ****ing pussy. And women don't want another pussy, because they already have one lol. They want a super confident dickhead like me to come along and **** the **** out of them. There have been times where I've called girls ****s and had them sucking my dick a few days later lololol. I came across this a few months ago, it's pretty spot-on.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/y2TNfem.png[img]

No one else in your circle will ever tell you this, either because they don't know what it takes to be a slayer or they don't wanna hurt your feelings (usually both).[/QUOTE]I read that and I know what you mean. I've never treated women like those guys. That's one of the great things about this thread: I can track my progress over time and make adjustments. I am treating the current woman I'm interested in (whom I met this past Wednesday) the way I typically would, which is very well and with respect. In one of my recent texts I gave her a compliment about how she looked when doing an exercise. She thanked me for that. I am trying to keep it classy because that's generally how I am and I'm thinking she would be turned off by anything else. She knows I'm interested in her as more than a friend and she seems really interested in me. She and I both hint at being together (i.e., her[i]learning[/i]things from me, me saying that her and I should watch a TV show together, etc.). I will escalate appropriately when her and I are on our date next Saturday.

Op

1) did you get a haircut yet?

2) Do you think you’re ocd? Is it physically possible for you to intentionally type with bad grammar, misspellings, abbreviations etc if you wanted to?

I want you to copy this sentence to your notes and the next time you want to ask a girl out on a date, I want you to paste this sentence word-for-word and letter-for-letter. Do not change anything about it.

“Idk if you’re around this week but I wanted to see if you want to grab a drink sometime after work”

Yes, I got a haircut almost 9 days ago. I am not super pleased with it, but it's all right. Here's how I'll wear it for now:https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...post1687797393
I don't think I'm OCD. It's definitely possible for me to type with bad grammar. I am not an English know-it-all. LOL. Okay, I will try that line on someone. I'm currently courting a female I met this past Wednesday and we've already got our first date scheduled for next Saturday. I'm so excited to see her. I feel like we've been building chemistry over text and it will be much easier to escalate to a kiss after the date.

OP how are u only benching 155lbs for 3 at 170lbs...

Either ur training program is fked up or ur low T and prob need to jump on

Also slow down on the bulk mane. U were a twink just a couple months ago. 30lbs to ur frame this quick ain't healthy. Especially since u didn't make much strength gainz

I'd remove the "Idk" and "wanted to see" and "if"...that's weak language. I would go for something that shows more direct interest, assertive without being offensive. More like "Let's grab a drink sometime this week." She's giving you signs of interest, continue the conversation by reflecting that interest back to her instead of questioning things.

Also, can't help but notice that "you're" is being used correctly in the quote above and I thought we were trying to get him away from that haha...

He said push press, for which 155x3 is much more decent. Dunno what he benches.

It was a push press (single bend at knees and press weight above head until elbows are fully locked - the same extension you'd see on a jerk in olympic weightlifting). My training program is all right. My chronic pain is NOT it. It sucks, but I've been taking a ginger and turmeric pill every day as a way to hopefully decrease inflammation. Everyday I stretch and rub my back and shoulders on a tennis ball. I was able to do pull ups twice this week and deadlift twice (once conventional and once sumo). I may get something on video when I deem it to be mildly impressive (whatever lift it is).

I've been cutting since 1 week ago. I am going to get really lean (hopefully around 8-9% body fat) then maintain it for a while then do a slow, methodical bulk to gain size.

For reference, I flat benched 155 lbs for 12 reps a while ago with more in me. I was around 170 lbs. I mostly do dumbbells now for bench, although I do close grip barbell bench to work my triceps. My best flat DB press since March of this year is 75 lbs for 2 sets of 8 reps. I imagine that's going to go down since I'm cutting. Other lifts may improve because of improvements to technique and repetition (e.g., sumo deadlift). I imagine I'll get to 10 strict pull ups in a row again fairly soon.Yeah, you are right. I feel like being concise, assertive, and confident are great ways to set myself apart from the average guy. I also try to show my sense of humor. Who's showing me signs of interest? The single mom is not into me, but the woman I met this past Wednesday seems to be. She's texted me very long messages - at least a dozen in the past few days. I like her and am excited to see where things go.Thank you, sir. I wrote my bench numbers above in my reply toFitnessYoutuber.

same, lol everytime read thread title

op is the biggest troll on this forum srs

I refuse to beleaf someone on a bbing forum for 18 years could only bench 155