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How close are you to self-actualization? Maslow's hierarchy of needs analysis

Where would you personally place yourself on this hierarchy? If the overarching goal is to reach self-actualization in life, how far away are you from this and what might be some hurdles getting in the way that you can address to reach this state?

I personally think bodybuilding fits into the self-esteem category, which is why I firmly believe in the profound importance of meeting personal physical exercise goals. Think about how different the human race would be if everyone took bodybuilding seriously.



Best of luck to everyone here and their own personal goals.
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Somewhere between the orange and yellow part. The security thing is kind of shaken these days, but I know that’s not unique to me. What I’ve noted is that the more you have of the yellow part, the more concerned you get about the orange part.
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I feel the only reason I fail to meet that aspect of “needs” is not due to my life situation or circumstances, but my own cognitive/emotional resistance.

I understand purpose is not inherent to existence and that can be pretty painful if I allow my ego to focus on it.

If I could just turn my brain off, I would be fulfilled completely.
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It's very hard to define what that actually means, would you liken it to achieving nirvana for example? In which case it's almost unachievable for the vast majority. I'd say I'm closer than ever after a career change to pursue something I really want to do, and after having a child, but unless you can free yourself from want it's ultimately going to remain just beyond reach since people always want more. This probably applies even more to high achievers and the ambitious despite them often more than meeting the self-esteem criteria.
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Originally Posted By PenorBrahNoHomo
It's very hard to define what that actually means, would you liken it to achieving nirvana for example? In which case it's almost unachievable for the vast majority. I'd say I'm closer than ever after a career change to pursue something I really want to do, and after having a child, but unless you can free yourself from want it's ultimately going to remain just beyond reach since people always want more. This probably applies even more to high achievers and the ambitious despite them often more than meeting the self-esteem criteria.
I see it as a bit more open to interpretation depending on your own individual goals. Self-actualization to me is having met your other needs that then gives you the freedom to pursue higher-order goals like creative output, altruism and helping other human beings, feeling a true sense of purpose and meaning in your life, seeing all your efforts, dedication, and sacrifice lead to something significant, achieving your overarching goals, etc.
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Originally Posted By TryingMen
100% of the misc can't get past love and belonging section lol
Strong friggin' username to post correlation lmfao
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I teeter totter in and out of self actualizing

Chits hard to keep up boyo
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Born in 1908 and raised in Brooklyn, New York, Maslow was the oldest of seven children. His parents were first-generation Jewish immigrants from Kiev,
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Originally Posted By Duckliver
I teeter totter in and out of self actualizing

Chits hard to keep up boyo
What would you say is most difficult for yourself in terms of keeping up with your own self-actualization?
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Right now, I'm fighting through the green section trying to reach that purple. I had a 5 year purple patch in my early 30s and I was very happy, I had a lot of fun and I loved my life.

Then the classic story, meet a sloot, things going well think there's potential, be really careful because I have an awesome life I def don't want to wreck, she gets preggo by accidentand I'm in a new phase: Procreation, it goes beyond self but ultimately we all die and that self rots.

Life is back to struggling in the green to reach the purple but also to try create the world in which my daughter can too. Mrs isnt the worst, she's a great mother, pretty hot, not an idiot, awesome to have sex with but she's a drain. We all know what women are like.

But like I said, I'm gonna die one day, seems to make sense to put my energy to something bigger than me. Perhaps that is self actualisation for me idk. I've been very lucky to have spent my entire life in at least the green zone and my parents did that so I want to pass it forward which I am doing. I'm not as happy and my life isn't as fun but I am more fulfilled, call it a cope you might be right but whatever life is what it is. I do pretty good.
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Originally Posted By ChinkWithDink
Right now, I'm fighting through the green section trying to reach that purple. I had a 5 year purple patch in my early 30s and I was very happy, I had a lot of fun and I loved my life.

Then the classic story, meet a sloot, things going well think there's potential, be really careful because I have an awesome life I def don't want to wreck, she gets preggo by accidentand I'm in a new phase: Procreation, it goes beyond self but ultimately we all die and that self rots.

Life is back to struggling in the green to reach the purple but also to try create the world in which my daughter can too. Mrs isnt the worst, she's a great mother, pretty hot, not an idiot, awesome to have sex with but she's a drain. We all know what women are like.

But like I said, I'm gonna die one day, seems to make sense to put my energy to something bigger than me. Perhaps that is self actualisation for me idk. I've been very lucky to have spent my entire life in at least the green zone and my parents did that so I want to pass it forward which I am doing. I'm not as happy and my life isn't as fun but I am more fulfilled, call it a cope you might be right but whatever life is what it is. I do pretty good.
How has having a child impacted your own perception of your place on the pyramid and your perspective on life in general? That's a really interesting position to be in. Thanks for sharing.
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I try to incorporate all 5 aspects in my life. Sometimes it's hard to incorporate all of them, but the times you can is when life is at its peak. It's like playing tug of war with life to have all aspects. To be honest if it wasn't for the Army and the leadership mentorship I received, I probably would have never gotten past 3. (Super Ded fkn Srs)
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I self actualized deez nuts earlier this morning.
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Originally Posted By gmenfan40
I try to incorporate all 5 aspects in my life. Sometimes it's hard to incorporate all of them, but the times you can is when life is at its peak. It's like playing tug of war with life to have all aspects.To be honest if it wasn't for the Army and the leadership mentorship I received, I probably would have never gotten past 3. (Super Ded fkn Srs)
I can see that. Sure, one might be able to solidify that foundation of safety and basic needs, but if your relationships constantly ebb and flow, it might be difficult to ascend past that.
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I self actualized deez nuts earlier this morning.
Is there no better way to start the day off on the right foot than bust a thick goopy nut in them sugar walls right upon waking? Just spurts out easy like an upside down nearly empty ketchup bottle.
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Originally Posted By lightsarefallin
How has having a child impacted your own perception of your place on the pyramid and your perspective on life in general? That's a really interesting position to be in. Thanks for sharing.
Well its a lot of work and responsibility but in a way that is purple zone stuff but it takes away a lot of opportunity for other purple zone stuff. But the main thing for me personally was the situation in which child occured and the fact I am trying to make it work with the mother. I didn't actively choose to have this child. It's possible she did, I can never really know but def possible. I take hits to confidence, achievement and respect of others from this.
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Originally Posted By Duckliver
I teeter totter in and out of self actualizing

Chits hard to keep up boyo
Same. I think that's a good way of putting it for me, too. Every once in a while, my self-esteem takes a hit, but from green down is pretty well set for me.

Morality and inner potential are probably the ones I struggle with the most. I see myself as a generally good person, but at the same time I'm not nearly as good as I could be. Still a lot of unrealized potential. I wish I spent more time focusing on the things I actually care about the most. Lol, and here I am posting on the misc. There's actually a lot of good here, that can make a person think, but it can be a huge time sink as well.
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What is purple zone for you OP?
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Originally Posted By FarmersSon
Same. I think that's a good way of putting it for me, too. Every once in a while, my self-esteem takes a hit, but from green down is pretty well set for me.

Morality and inner potential are probably the ones I struggle with the most. I see myself as a generally good person, but at the same time I'm not nearly as good as I could be. Still a lot of unrealized potential. I wish I spent more time focusing on the things I actually care about the most. Lol, and here I am posting on the misc. There's actually a lot of good here, that can make a person think, but it can be a huge time sink as well.
I've been having a lot of 'death bed' analytical conversations with myself lately. I wear many hats in my life and am always working on so many things at once that it's difficult to pinpoint whether the right balance has been struck. One analytical way of thinking that I have found helpful, albeit a bit morbid, is the following: if I was near death thinking back at my life, would I want to do more of what I'm currently involved or concerned with or would I wish I spent that time doing something else that could be potentially more meaningful? Today I'm taking a bit of a step back and enjoying the weather.
Originally Posted By ChinkWithDink
What is purple zone for you OP?
For myself personally, one of the largest pieces is having the time and financial freedom to pursue meaningful avenues in life, primarily creative. Things are coming to fruition and goals are being met. My life was once one-sided and I'm finally in a place where I'm able to derive a true sense of purpose, meaning, and fulfillment from my lifestyle.
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Originally Posted By lightsarefallin
What would you say is most difficult for yourself in terms of keeping up with your own self-actualization?
Apathy

Taking the easy road / cop outs
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Right now Im closer to purple, but occasionally I dip into the red

I dont think its possible to stay on top. Life knocks you down randomly all the time
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Firmly in the orange, been trying to crack into the yellow for the past 15+ years.
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A mix of the top three... Probably very clsoe to achieving the top... although not quite there.
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Self-Esteem

For sure.


Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy
A mix of the top three... Probably very clsoe to achieving the top... although not quite there.
The theory states you can't pass to the next stage if you can't "fulfil" the stage you are at. So you can't be at the top three.

Example: The stage "love and belonging" talks about "intimacy" which translates to GF/wife/srs relationship. However, even if you don't have a meaningful relatioship but you find yourself more concerned with things like "achievements, respect of others, career, ..." then, at least for your brain, you are at the "self-esteem" stage.




If you have the "I don't want an average life" mentality, you are already on the "self esteem stage", at least. Now, if you have the "All I want is a GF" mentality, you are on the "love and belonging" stage.
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I feel like you can argue that a consistent and regular exercise regimen, like weight lifting, can also be considered self-actualization to some degree. As far as your question goes, I'd say I float in and out of self-actualization.
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Originally Posted By Joeyw88
I feel like you can argue that a consistent and regular exercise regimen, like weight lifting, can also be considered self-actualization to some degree. As far as your question goes, I'd say I float in and out of self-actualization.
Exercise regime is DEFINITELY "self-esteem" stage. That falls under "achievement".

The "self-actualization" is more "physilophical". "What is fair?" "What do I value in life?" "What would I consider a succesfull life?" "What should I accept about myself and the world?",...
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Amazing how all of these philosophies ignore god

How close you are to god is the real question
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