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post 1688911393 08-24-2023, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
Yeah, but thats only because women's priorities are screwed up right now. They want to be sexually attracted to the guy on top of absolutely respecting him in terms of finances/status. That would be good for just offspring, women wanting that is just natural, however that formula is meant to improve the human race and not society. A monogamous society doesnt work when women have those priorities.

They should seek commitment, loyalty, respect, love, protection, etc from men, not just money, height, and face, which is whats happening right now. They disregard the virtues that matter for a long term monogamous relationship and put on a pedestal the virtues that matter for a sexual relationship.

Monogamy in a society where women dont need men (due to muh feminism) wont work, since women then go for the men theywant. Every woman wants the same type of men (aka top 10-20%) so this results in a society of sex, situationships, frustration (both from women and men), etc.
i dont see how this can be fixed unless society actually collapsed. Because otherwise women will not change, they arent going to fuk men they arent attracted to
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Why are some so fundamentally embittered that they treat "women" as one monolithic group? They are anything but. Perhaps there are trends across socio-economic brackets, as there always are, but to say "women need to X" as if they are all the same reeks of embittered trauma syndrome.
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Originally Posted By Tuksonrider
Here's the thing BBMG, I've always said, "hold on". Your value is hampered by height, race, and face. As the females market value lowers, yours can at least stay the same until your priced into the market. Yeah, it sucks that you don't get a sloot in their prime, but you may get commitment and a loving relationship.
Its not very motivating to say 'hold on so when you're 40 you can maybe get some old used up puzzy. I dont think thats a deal men will respond to. they'll be roping and rotting before they make it to 40 to save these used up hoes.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
i dont see how this can be fixed unless society actually collapsed. Because otherwise women will not change, they arent going to fuk men they arent attracted to
Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
Its not very motivating to say 'hold on so when you're 40 you can maybe get some old used up puzzy. I dont think thats a deal men will respond to. they'll be roping and rotting before they make it to 40 to save these used up hoes.
They will when their market value lowers to where they just want commitment and companionship (too old for birth children unless adopt/foster). This is the market where you will shine.

Yes, they will be used up, yes, their eggs are gone, yes, they will most likely have more baggage than O'hare airport, but they will fall in love with you when their priorities reshift to commitment, loyalty, protection, and provider.

EDIT: added your second quoate
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post 1688911613 08-24-2023, 06:24 PM
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Lol who cares

People worry so much about relationships and sex, who gives a fuk
post 1688912603 08-24-2023, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted By cobhc
To be fair, this would be worded a lot better if it was written neutrally.

The 53% that settles for a beta male are 100% low value/high body count women typically. Occasionally you'll get a HBB that was cheated on and becomes so mentally ill that she can no longer have a relationship with anyone besides a soy who leaves his phone unlocked next to her all day.
Would rep irl
post 1688912643 08-24-2023, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted By LogicalLifts
Why are some so fundamentally embittered that they treat "women" as one monolithic group? They are anything but. Perhaps there are trends across socio-economic brackets, as there always are, but to say "women need to X" as if they are all the same reeks of embittered trauma syndrome.
This

I mean seriously nearly everyone I know (male and female) is in a relationship

I don't find most of my friends partners particularly attractive, but they do, and that's what matters.

Maybe some people are settling, but back in the day that was called "compromise"

Anyway relationships aren't dictated by rules or logical patterns , anyone who's ever been in love can attest to that
post 1688912703 08-24-2023, 06:47 PM
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We are rediscovering what people figured out thousands of years ago. The only way to build a large, relatively stable society is to control female sexual resources. Implement socialism (1 woman per man, no more) and physically force women to pair with their looks match. Every single western empire was built on this basic philosophy.

It's counterintuitive, but letting women shop thousands of men and pick their own partner results in epidemic levels of sheer MISERY. Record levels of depression because now they not only get to see what they're missing, but they can get banged by Chad any time they want. They just can't ever have him as a monogamous husband, which must be a huge mind fukk.
post 1688913363 08-24-2023, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken
We are rediscovering what people figured out thousands of years ago. The only way to build a large, relatively stable society is to control female sexual resources. Implement socialism (1 woman per man, no more) and physically force women to pair with their looks match. Every single western empire was built on this basic philosophy.

It's counterintuitive, but letting women shop thousands of men and pick their own partner results in epidemic levels of sheer MISERY. Record levels of depression because now they not only get to see what they're missing, but they can get banged by Chad any time they want. They just can't ever have him as a monogamous husband, which must be a huge mind fukk.
Society doesn't need to do that just destroy and ban social media and dating apps. Then men and women will be forced to interact with people in your vicinity
post 1688913663 08-24-2023, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted By TimeTravelerBro
Society doesn't need to do that just destroy and ban social media and dating apps. Then men and women will be forced to interact with people in your vicinity
That's only a part of the issue. Without economic and societal pressure, women would just choose to remain single rather than settle for regular wagie type dudes.
post 1688913693 08-24-2023, 07:05 PM
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How is a HVM defined these days?
post 1688914053 08-24-2023, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Caldef
This

I mean seriously nearly everyone I know (male and female) is in a relationship

I don't find most of my friends partners particularly attractive, but they do, and that's what matters.

Maybe some people are settling, but back in the day that was called "compromise"

Anyway relationships aren't dictated by rules or logical patterns , anyone who's ever been in love can attest to that
That's what I meant about 'brackets'. Almost everyone in mine is married with kids, or divorced with kids. Rarity is never married.

I have had guys in NYC tell me (in front of my wife) "Man they just don't make them like her any more..." - obviously I find my wife very attractive, some others do - but this latter point is a nuisance. What matters is attraction between the two.

There is a disproportionately loud and vocal group on the internet who are effectively mutes in their everyday life who then use the internet to cry about their lot in life. I wonder if any of them have ever legitimately been in love, as you say, and realize that romantic success isn't a basic "calculation".
post 1688915653 08-24-2023, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted By Ausaric
Lol who cares

People worry so much about relationships and sex, who gives a fuk
Pretty much this.

When you force women to put in any effort you'll get the laziest form of energy like just saying Hi so they can get me to initiate everything. Knowing there is a 5-10% chance they are actually trying to go out instead of getting attention online so my responses are equally as low energy and they typically ghost. For example in my online dating profiles I have pictures of me doing all sorts of activities in all sorts of places that seems pretty damn easy to start a conversation from but the most they are willing to do it "Hey"

Not to mention I pretty much work 2 full time jobs so when I do want to set up a date im usually booked out at least a week. I see alot of dudes talking about loneliness and its like if you're lonely its because you're not doing enough with your life.
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post 1688916413 08-24-2023, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
i dont see how this can be fixed unless society actually collapsed. Because otherwise women will not change, they arent going to fuk men they arent attracted to
Oh you’d be surprised. Humanity has gone trough the same exact cycle hundreds of times already.

It’s only a matter of time until society remembers how damn important is to have strong masculine men and delicate feminine women forming the majority of society.

It’s a pendulum, it’s gonna swing back eventually. Not in your lifetime tho, or at least when you are still young, sorry to say that. You were born 20-30 years too late.
"The flowers bloom, then wither... The stars shine and one day become extinct. This earth, the sun, the galaxies and even the big universe, someday will be destroyed. Compared with that, the human life is only a blink, just a little time. In that short time - people are born, laugh, cry, fight, are injured, feel joy, sadness, hate someone, love someone. All in just a moment. And then, are embraced by the eternal sleep called death."
post 1688917193 08-24-2023, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted By ymer
so cliffs of cliffs:

-Women are too entitled today and they end up fuking themselves over.
Nailed it
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post 1688917803 08-24-2023, 08:18 PM
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women got this entitled because of us men.


if we had standards for ourselves, most of these women would get their chit together.
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post 1688919373 08-24-2023, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron
The other thing that no one really hit on ITT...

If a man doesn't want kids, why would he bother with a monogamous partner?
Having a smart and motivated wife with good values and work ethic has value outside of just raising kids

I may be biased though because I spent a lot of my adulthood around western women who buy and large tend to be inherently low-value (even if you’re browsing in the top end of the market)

High quality women are generally going to require much more in the way of a commitment purely because they can
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
Yeah, but thats only because women's priorities are screwed up right now. They want to be sexually attracted to the guy on top of absolutely respecting him in terms of finances/status. That would be good for just offspring, women wanting that is just natural, however that formula is meant to improve the human race and not society. A monogamous society doesnt work when women have those priorities.

They should seek commitment, loyalty, respect, love, protection, etc from men, not just money, height, and face, which is whats happening right now. They disregard the virtues that matter for a long term monogamous relationship and put on a pedestal the virtues that matter for a sexual relationship.

Monogamy in a society where women dont need men (due to muh feminism) wont work, since women then go for the men theywant. Every woman wants the same type of men (aka top 10-20%) so this results in a society of sex, situationships, frustration (both from women and men), etc.
Wood rather be celibate than share some old HVM with other women. No thanks. A friend introduced me to her wealthy, 50 year old attractive for his age friend who said kept kissing me and said he wanted to travel with my friend and her boyfriend but she told me he’s seeing 2-3 other women. No thanks. I’m done with him and any other old players like that.
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Originally Posted By BrianDaMan
listening to women = end of your race. srs


ded fkn Srs
This right here.

The global fertility crisis and immigration problem everywhere by Asia is directly related to giving women the vote.

Islam is right
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Originally Posted By Wayne
Generally speaking:

No....I don't think it would work out either, not to any noteworthy levels because women can't handle rejection.
We've heard the sisterhood mantra they don't need men and a few other choice phrases they like to parrot back & forth.
The western woman is spoiled and think they are all 10's.

It's men that have built and civilized the world around them.
Every convenience that makes their lives easier was conceived, designed, built and maintained by men.
The very men that will happily give up their life for the loyal woman of his desires.
Women seemed to have forgotten that too.
They now can hang out on the hook up sites, monkey branch with the dudes thinking they'll gain value as they party away their youth.
They can't be trusted and 'trust' is how relationships are held together.

I've witnessed (5) decades of feminism do it's thing.
If I were a young buck today I'd go withit's far too risky to engage with western women at all.
Clear thinking males would be wise to just do a risk/benefit assessment and then make your judgement call.
As far as I'm concerned, they can now do all their own life's heavy lifting.
Women can start changing their own tires, clean their own gutters and get their sisterhood collective to help them move.

To each their own path and life altering consequences.

(Oh....I've been married to a traditional Filipina for 39 years.)
This is the way
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken
That's only a part of the issue. Without economic and societal pressure, women would just choose to remain single rather than settle for regular wagie type dudes.
this. repped your other post too, spot on the issues going on
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra
Having a smart and motivated wife with good values and work ethic has value outside of just raising kids

I may be biased though because I spent a lot of my adulthood around western women who buy and large tend to be inherently low-value (even if you’re browsing in the top end of the market)

High quality women are generally going to require much more in the way of a commitment purely because they can
Its also the case the average billy beta male NEEDS to offer the woman monogamy as well. Otherwise, what the hell is she getting out of it?

The deal is she will bang a man she's not really attracted to. He will be monogamous and give her all his attention and provisions.

If billy beta isnt willing to do that, why wouldnt the woman just fuk chad if all she's getting is uncommitted sex anyway?
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
this. repped your other post too, spot on the issues going on
There still is economic pressure as 2 incomes in the same household are better than one.

Many times she’ll want someone to go to dinner with. A lot of my single female friends are lonely.
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Originally Posted By DustinTheHuss
There still is economic pressure as 2 incomes in the same household are better than one.

Many times she’ll want someone to go to dinner with. A lot of my single female friends are lonely.
Women have never been better off economically. Women are now boss babes and can live their instathot lives alone easily.

Your single female friends are lonely but are still choosing that over billy beta. Otherwise, they would have just picked up a billy beta. he's always available.
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Originally Posted By katya422
Sexual Market Value I think.

- looks
- money
- social value

That sort of thing.
Is this a young person thing because I never gave a shi* about any of this kind of stuff? If I liked a person and we clicked it was game on period. I'm so glad I'm old srs...

Just reading all this stuff makes my head hurt.
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Why is everyone acting as if it's so hard to pull/fck or date hot chicks are they just autistic irl or have they just not actually tried.

"She's too hot she wouldn't date me"

Half of all these problems are the womens standards, the other half is how fcking scared of women men are becoming.
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Originally Posted By kimm4
Is this a young person thing because I never gave a shi* about any of this kind of stuff? If I liked a person and we clicked it was game on period. I'm so glad I'm old srs...

Just reading all this stuff makes my head hurt.
It's theorycrafting from folks who spend too much time on the internet. "Clicking" still happens, at least in NYC. "Social value"? Maybe to distinguish welfare cases from workers?
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Originally Posted By kimm4
Is this a young person thing because I never gave a shi* about any of this kind of stuff? If I liked a person and we clicked it was game on period. I'm so glad I'm old srs...

Just reading all this stuff makes my head hurt.
I sometimes try to talk about misc stuff with people irl and they just look at me confused, they have no clue what I’m talking about. Maybe their YouTube and other social media algorithms are different since this stuff is there nowadays.
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Originally Posted By Cass40
I sometimes try to talk about misc stuff with people irl and they just look at me confused, they have no clue what I’m talking about. Maybe their YouTube and other social media algorithms are different since this stuff is there nowadays.
Mine is full of cat videos and music mixes.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Mine is full of cat videos and music mixes.
Post a cat video thread.
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