[QUOTE=LingLingDimSum post_id=1688865373]it just keeps getting worse

absolutely delusional[/QUOTE]What are you referring to?

[QUOTE=jamiejammer post_id=1688865773]Oh yeah, how much pussy are you getting from this strategy? Zero, because like I said women don't want extra pussies in their life. You have no chance bro, you won't even listen to someone who's where you're trying to be. If I broke up with my girl tomorrow, I could literally get multiple new girls every single week. A couple years ago, I called this one girl a dumb cow or something and look how she responded.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/cZT7HQt.jpg[img]

It ended up being well over twenty, and a few days later she was sucking my dick lol. Have fun getting no bitches for the rest of your life.

Exactly.

Just keep trying this dumbass strategy then lololololol.[/QUOTE]Not sure why you're being so condescending to me. You've basically told me to get on gear and treat women like they're all willing to have sex with me even if they hardly know me. I understand there are situations that lead to sex with someone within a few hours of meeting them, but I've never had that happen. I'm working to improve myself, as you can see by how strict I am on my diet and how seriously I take my exercise routine. I'm putting myself out there. I should start going to bars or something else because relying solely on the gym and Tinder hasn't done much for me so far. I'm cutting so I can get really lean. I believe that will increase my confidence and chances of going on dates.

[QUOTE=jamiejammer post_id=1688866043]This is a fantastic post! It's good to see that some of you actually know how to handle these situations.

Getting numbers don't mean anything, that's why I usually try to **** ASAP (ideally a couple hours after just walking up to her in some random place lol). I've ****ed way more girls than most, yet the phone numbers I've gotten far exceed that number. You want to meet her immediately or immediately after what she's doing, even if you're not gonna **** that day. I literally went with a girl I just met on the subway to her COVID test a couple years ago, and ****ed her two hours later lol.[/QUOTE]I'm over the single mom from the gym who was rude to me. I don't give a damn about her and have no plans to text her ever again. Yeah, I get it. It's possible to go from not knowing someone to sex within a much shorter period of time than what I've experienced.

Update for today is I've been texting withMand realize I need to keep my expectations low, as she seems to have a history of having male friends. I'll keep in touch with her and hopefully go out with her again very soon, but I'm not getting my hopes up. It's good experience and getting to know her has been really fun.

Earlier tonight I talked on the phone for almost an hour with a Korean woman I met on LinkedIn a few months ago (she reached out to me). I've helped her with her resume, job hunting tips, and may even refer her for a role. We've Zoomed before so we both know what the other person looks like. This was our second phone call. I make her laugh a lot. Toward the end of today's call we were a little flirty with each other. I hinted at how she's a woman and she jokingly said I shouldn't assume. I said I hadn't checked her parts. She wanted a picture of me crying because I said I was going to cry after the call since she was saying such nice things about me. I sent her a selfie I edited to have tears running down my cheeks. I asked her to send me a picture of her (she's made me go first when revealing salary, so I figure this is kind of like an I'll show you mine and you show me yours) - we'll see if she sends one. She's in California and I'm in Texas.

You already knew that, right... everyone else ITT did.

It came up in a text earlier today when referring to former Italian friend - she used the word, "He." It clicked for me. Again, doesn't mean I don't enjoy her company and the time she spends with me.

I may rent a car again for a day (all day Saturday), just in case she has the time to hangout (she'll let me know). If she doesn't, I can try a bar or something? I don't have any hangouts planned for this weekend.

being friends with girls is good social experience imo

opie, it's over for u

OP got a handjob...by someone other than themselves.
That's like more than what 95% misc get.

[QUOTE=resoog post_id=1688927503]being friends with girls is good social experience imo[/QUOTE]The way I see it is that they may eventually like me or introduce me to other women. I don't have much of a social circle, so it's great to put myself out there and see who's willing to get to know me. It is great experience - I work remotely and haven't had many opportunities to socialize.

[QUOTE=naaboo post_id=1688928313]opie, it's over for u[/QUOTE][img]https://emoticons.datahamster.com/nea.gif[/img]

[QUOTE=Tuksonrider post_id=1688928763]OP got a handjob...by someone other than themselves.
That's like more than what 95% misc get.[/QUOTE]I met that woman almost 10 years ago. She took my virginity over 9 years ago.

[QUOTE=ymer post_id=1688946443][img]https://i.imgur.com/Kly4FNK.gif[img][/QUOTE]Talking to women is gay now?

talking to women is a great way to build up social skills/connnections (srs)

Yes! Networking is so important. I believe if I didn't have LinkedIn and a good resume, I wouldn't have my current job. It's a snowball effect - the more connections one has, the easier it tends to be to make new connections.

That's muh boy!

Thanks, pops.

The Korean woman I've Zoomed and talked with on the phone for a few hours texted me back over a day later. I'm thinking I'll wash my face this evening and put the phone at a decent angle then try to FaceTime her. If it goes well, I'm thinking of asking her if I can fly her out to see me for a weekend. She lives in California and I'm in Texas.

Bruh wtf are you even doing?

- Single mom
- Sloot in a relationship
- Sloot who lives on the other side of the country

Why aren't you going after anybody reasonable?

I met the single mom (the one NOT from Tinder) and the woman who's in a relationship at the gym. I didn't know their situations when I approached them. The woman from California is a cute Korean whom I've helped. She seems to like me. I go after what I've found, granted I haven't been going out except to the gym. Currently, I don't get much from Tinder, which is why I'm sticking to cutting so I can maximize my appeal by being lean. I was in Target several months ago and got an IOI from a young, cute girl but never said anything to her, lol. She was standing a couple feet away from me in the waiting area of the dressing rooms and looked up at me, stared at me for a few seconds, all while smiling. If that happened today I'd introduce myself and ask for her number.

I tried FaceTime, but she didn't pick up. I sent her this pic.

you are decent looking. why are you failing so hard with women?

Learn how to be alpha and have more game

I appreciate the compliment on how I'm looking in that pic. I don't know why I'm failing so hard. I suppose part of it is how I don't have a large social circle, so I'm not going out to parties or events with others who may be able to introduce me to available women. I have acted alpha on occasion - I think I need more practice for it to become second nature.I do follow some advice. Stop using emojis? What if the woman I'm talking to uses them? They're a fun way to express myself.

Yeah, you're good-looking OP (no home owner).

So when you go to a restaurant and the only items on the menu are chit, piss and vomit you're having that as a meal because it's the only thing they have? I'm sure you'd go to a different restaurant instead. Stop chasing chit tier women or long term chit, you have zero self respect.

Thanks, I appreciate the compliment.I think that may be harsh to refer to those women as you have. I do have very little self respect, I agree. I believe it would be much higher if I had some success with dating. I'm working on it.

The update for today is that I saw an incredibly beautiful Indian woman at the gym today, but didn't approach her because there was another woman near her and I decided to approach the latter. I regret it because the woman I approached was rude and didn't want to talk. The Indian woman left before I could approach, but I will definitely approach her if I see her again - don't care how awkward it is. That makes my updated stats 3/8 in terms of getting numbers at the gym; I count this one even though I didn't get anywhere near the point of being able to ask for a number.
Unfortunately, I'm not seeing anyone this weekend. I am hoping to see at least one person next weekend. I'm still texting the woman with a bf and my female friend (the one who gave me an HJ last weekend) should be seeing me next week.

lmaoooooooooooooo

OP, it's a shame you can't grow full facial hair (I can tell from your photos that your beard might be a bit patchy?), because if you grew a short beard, got a tan, lost the glasses, it would bump you up a couple of points on the looks scale...

I'm not being harsh at all, I'm just being straight with you. When a chick is a single mum or already in a relationship don't waste your time on them. It's an extremely simple and straightforward concept.

[QUOTE=xbluexhawkx post_id=1689013423]lmaoooooooooooooo[/QUOTE]That bugger always brings the lulz.

[QUOTE=Cloudburn post_id=1689015563]OP, it's a shame you can't grow full facial hair (I can tell from your photos that your beard might be a bit patchy?), because if you grew a short beard, got a tan, lost the glasses, it would bump you up a couple of points on the looks scale...

[img]https://imgur.com/HDwlcyf.jpg[img][/QUOTE]First off - amazing work! That looks super cool. You're are right - I cannot grow a proper beard. Also, I have an oily nose so the exfoliation from shaving actually helps my nose appear less big in a way and less oily when I'm clean shaven. It sounds weird, but my nose can swell a little and it seems to be more pronounced when I have more facial hair. I prefer clean shaven at the moment, as opposed to stubble or a week's worth of growing my facial hair. I am looking forward to sharing more pictures as I shed more body fat. Perhaps we can then do some hypotheticals.

[QUOTE=Barteh post_id=1689015773]I'm not being harsh at all, I'm just being straight with you. When a chick is a single mum or already in a relationship don't waste your time on them. It's an extremely simple and straightforward concept.[/QUOTE]I get what you mean, but I genuinely don't have any other options right now. I need the practice. It's kind of like lifting weights: I have to get into the gym and workout to the best of my ability and keep trying to improve. I'm likely not going to be in a relationship with any of the women I've talked to since making this thread, but the experience is helping me out a lot. I have a shortage of experience because I've been a hermit most of my adult life.

OP is spergy AF

I have something to look forward to! I'm meeting the woman who's got a bf next Saturday for lunch. This will be our secondmeeting.