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08-28-2023, 06:32 AM
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Games take way too long to come out now.
Remember when GTA3 came out in 2001, and then vice city a year later, and san andreas just 2 years after that.
How about when Ocarina of time came out and Majoras mask just 2 years later
Baldurs gate 2 was 2 years after baldurs gate 1, oh and in between the same team released planescape torment the game with the greatest story in gaming, just because they felt like it.
Why do we have to wait 8 years for elden ring 2?
Why does GTA come out once every 20 yeas now?
Good luck seeing baldurs gate 4 before 2030.
What is going on? And don't give me "games are more advanced now". These studios have teams of 100s now, it's not 8 guys in a room anymore.
Remember the old days when E3 would come and they'd be like "here's a new gta it's coming out in a few months"
Now it's "here's a trailer for a game in preproduction we don't even have a clue about a release date but it might be before your unborn child's 18th birthday"
The industry ****ing sucks
How about when Ocarina of time came out and Majoras mask just 2 years later
Baldurs gate 2 was 2 years after baldurs gate 1, oh and in between the same team released planescape torment the game with the greatest story in gaming, just because they felt like it.
Why do we have to wait 8 years for elden ring 2?
Why does GTA come out once every 20 yeas now?
Good luck seeing baldurs gate 4 before 2030.
What is going on? And don't give me "games are more advanced now". These studios have teams of 100s now, it's not 8 guys in a room anymore.
Remember the old days when E3 would come and they'd be like "here's a new gta it's coming out in a few months"
Now it's "here's a trailer for a game in preproduction we don't even have a clue about a release date but it might be before your unborn child's 18th birthday"
The industry ****ing sucks
08-28-2023, 10:25 AM
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Are you saying there's a conspiracy where all game companies agreed to delay all their big releases? I would believe your "lazy" argument if there was just one studio that pushes out amazing AAA sequels every 2 years....but there isn't a single one.
The truth is that games are just far more advanced now.
I don't believe companies are paying hundreds of employees to sit on their asses and do absolutely nothing. Nowadays games have a ton of voice acting, a ton of motion capture, far more detailed assets, far more extensive storylines. Also much more quests, events, interactions etc. It's basically a game on top of a movie and think about how long movies take to make.
The truth is that games are just far more advanced now.
I don't believe companies are paying hundreds of employees to sit on their asses and do absolutely nothing. Nowadays games have a ton of voice acting, a ton of motion capture, far more detailed assets, far more extensive storylines. Also much more quests, events, interactions etc. It's basically a game on top of a movie and think about how long movies take to make.
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08-28-2023, 10:33 AM
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I predict AI will soon make it so "easy" to develop games that it will take much shorter times in the near future to develop games.
Hell it may become so good any misc autist can make a game soon enough.
But let's be real good old games to play anyway, I don't mind. And especially this year is unreal, llllooooooooonnnnggggg time ago it's been this good
Hell it may become so good any misc autist can make a game soon enough.
But let's be real good old games to play anyway, I don't mind. And especially this year is unreal, llllooooooooonnnnggggg time ago it's been this good
08-28-2023, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Well the thing that offsets the long production times is that there are much more game studios now. So while you might have to wait 5 years for Elden Ring 2, you got a bunch of different releases like RE4 Remake, Baldur's Gate, Dead Space, Spiderman 2 etc that will keep you occupied. I don't mind it.I predict AI will soon make it so "easy" to develop games that it will take much shorter times in the near future to develop games.
Hell it may become so good any misc autist can make a game soon enough.
But let's be real good old games to play anyway, I don't mind. And especially this year is unreal, llllooooooooonnnnggggg time ago it's been this good
Hell it may become so good any misc autist can make a game soon enough.
But let's be real good old games to play anyway, I don't mind. And especially this year is unreal, llllooooooooonnnnggggg time ago it's been this good
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08-28-2023, 10:39 AM
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It honestly wouldn't be a problem if the games that did come out had plenty of soul and were consistently great.
So many AAA games feel copy and pasted with micro transactions. If that weren't the case, long development cycles wouldn't seem like a big deal.
That said, I feel that as long as you sprinkle in indie and AA games into your library, you'll be just fine.
So many AAA games feel copy and pasted with micro transactions. If that weren't the case, long development cycles wouldn't seem like a big deal.
That said, I feel that as long as you sprinkle in indie and AA games into your library, you'll be just fine.
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08-28-2023, 10:44 AM
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08-28-2023, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted By TokenV⏩
Yes agree with this too. We need more "shorter" single player games that aren't longer than 20 hours.they also take way too long to complete lol
scope has just gotten way bigger and I don't think nowadays audience will be content to downscale again
I wouldn't mind it though (srs)
scope has just gotten way bigger and I don't think nowadays audience will be content to downscale again
I wouldn't mind it though (srs)
08-28-2023, 10:48 AM
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games are more advanced now
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08-28-2023, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
Agree for the most part but I think it's unfair to say so many games feel like soulless copy pasted micro transactions games when we also have so many that are the opposite.It honestly wouldn't be a problem if the games that did come out had plenty of soul and were consistently great.
So many AAA games feel copy and pasted with micro transactions. If that weren't the case, long development cycles wouldn't seem like a big deal.
That said, I feel that as long as you sprinkle in indie and AA games into your library, you'll be just fine.
So many AAA games feel copy and pasted with micro transactions. If that weren't the case, long development cycles wouldn't seem like a big deal.
That said, I feel that as long as you sprinkle in indie and AA games into your library, you'll be just fine.
This year in AAA we also had RE4 Remake, Dead Space, Hogwarts Legacy, Burning Shores, Jedi Survivor, Street Fighter 6, Final Fantasy 16, Baldur's Gate 3, Armored Core 6, Starfield, Spiderman 2.
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08-28-2023, 11:27 AM
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Honestly that's a good thing. Can't be having 10 games out back to back. If you have a social life then it's no problems for good games to come every 3 years.
08-28-2023, 11:40 AM
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What are you even talking about? FIFA/NBA/shooty shooty boom boom game/whatever have annual installments.
It's like asking why it takes x hours to build a new car when Henry Ford managed to pump out a new Model T every 90 minutes.
Originally Posted By stayhomeneet⏩
I'm fairly sure studios could easily pump out back to back asset flips with some added twist/polish. Doubly so if the game was either an isometric 2,5D RPG or some bing bing wahoo schit with 15 polygons that only needs to be released on a single platform. And this is coming from someone who has BG2/Torment in his top 5 all time games list.Remember when GTA3 came out in 2001, and then vice city a year later, and san andreas just 2 years after that.
How about when Ocarina of time came out and Majoras mask just 2 years later
Baldurs gate 2 was 2 years after baldurs gate 1, oh and in between the same team released planescape torment the game with the greatest story in gaming, just because they felt like it.
How about when Ocarina of time came out and Majoras mask just 2 years later
Baldurs gate 2 was 2 years after baldurs gate 1, oh and in between the same team released planescape torment the game with the greatest story in gaming, just because they felt like it.
Originally Posted By stayhomeneet⏩
But they are more advanced.What is going on? And don't give me "games are more advanced now". These studios have teams of 100s now, it's not 8 guys in a room anymore.
Originally Posted By stayhomeneet⏩
Feel free to play Five Nights at Freddy's and Stardew Valley or whatever.it's not 8 guys in a room anymore.
It's like asking why it takes x hours to build a new car when Henry Ford managed to pump out a new Model T every 90 minutes.
08-28-2023, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Coal
I've heard that the elden ring devs purposely delayed the DLC to maximise the amount of people buying the game, in some belief that if the DLC dropped quickly the hype wouldnt last as long and they wouldn't sell as many copies. There was an actual quote about this.Are you saying there's a conspiracy where all game companies agreed to delay all their big releases? I would believe your "lazy" argument if there was just one studio that pushes out amazing AAA sequels every 2 years....but there isn't a single one.
The truth is that games are just far more advanced now.
I don't believe companies are paying hundreds of employees to sit on their asses and do absolutely nothing. Nowadays games have a ton of voice acting, a ton of motion capture, far more detailed assets, far more extensive storylines. Also much more quests, events, interactions etc. It's basically a game on top of a movie and think about how long movies take to make.
The truth is that games are just far more advanced now.
I don't believe companies are paying hundreds of employees to sit on their asses and do absolutely nothing. Nowadays games have a ton of voice acting, a ton of motion capture, far more detailed assets, far more extensive storylines. Also much more quests, events, interactions etc. It's basically a game on top of a movie and think about how long movies take to make.
08-28-2023, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted By Coal
Honestly, this year has been an anomaly. Feels ike the great gaming renaissance or something.Agree for the most part but I think it's unfair to say so many games feel like soulless copy pasted micro transactions games when we also have so many that are the opposite.
This year in AAA we also had RE4 Remake, Dead Space, Hogwarts Legacy, Burning Shores, Jedi Survivor, Street Fighter 6, Final Fantasy 16, Baldur's Gate 3, Armored Core 6, Starfield, Spiderman 2.
This year in AAA we also had RE4 Remake, Dead Space, Hogwarts Legacy, Burning Shores, Jedi Survivor, Street Fighter 6, Final Fantasy 16, Baldur's Gate 3, Armored Core 6, Starfield, Spiderman 2.
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08-28-2023, 04:32 PM
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Games are almost always released too ****ing early and full of ****ing bugs.
I'd rather games take 2 years longer than they already do and actually come out polished and ready to go. Stop being in impatient and realize that people like you are literally one of the primary reasons the gaming industry sucks. Can't wait until a game is fully cooked 'cause you got a bunch of kids going "Wherez muh game!?"
The size and scope of the games change, they take more time to make, and are more expensive. You got voice acting and motion capture now. Worlds that are crazy huge and full of detail. Hundreds of npcs etc etc. **** takes time and they already rush **** out too fast.
I'd rather games take 2 years longer than they already do and actually come out polished and ready to go. Stop being in impatient and realize that people like you are literally one of the primary reasons the gaming industry sucks. Can't wait until a game is fully cooked 'cause you got a bunch of kids going "Wherez muh game!?"
The size and scope of the games change, they take more time to make, and are more expensive. You got voice acting and motion capture now. Worlds that are crazy huge and full of detail. Hundreds of npcs etc etc. **** takes time and they already rush **** out too fast.
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08-28-2023, 06:55 PM
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Thats the price of more complex, better looking games.
I think there's room for what Spiderman did. Spider man 2018, a smaller spinoff game in 2020, and then true sequel in 2023.
Cause at this point I dont even get excited when games are announced cause for all I know I wont be alive by the time it comes out. thats how long it takes.
I think there's room for what Spiderman did. Spider man 2018, a smaller spinoff game in 2020, and then true sequel in 2023.
Cause at this point I dont even get excited when games are announced cause for all I know I wont be alive by the time it comes out. thats how long it takes.
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a lot of those games with yearly releases are just the same game (same engine) on a new map or in the case of sports games, updated rosters..
as for the time frame of GTA 5 to GTA 6 that was purely rockstar just milking their cash cow of GTA online.
look how many assassin creed's you have now, how many CODs you have now. yearly reskinned releases, they might sell, but everyone after paying their yearly $70 will agree they got duped and game is garbage.
but 2023 has been great for gamers. so many great fukin games released this year. its amazing.
as for the time frame of GTA 5 to GTA 6 that was purely rockstar just milking their cash cow of GTA online.
look how many assassin creed's you have now, how many CODs you have now. yearly reskinned releases, they might sell, but everyone after paying their yearly $70 will agree they got duped and game is garbage.
but 2023 has been great for gamers. so many great fukin games released this year. its amazing.
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08-28-2023, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
This 100%It honestly wouldn't be a problem if the games that did come out had plenty of soul and were consistently great.
So many AAA games feel copy and pasted with micro transactions. If that weren't the case, long development cycles wouldn't seem like a big deal.
That said, I feel that as long as you sprinkle in indie and AA games into your library, you'll be just fine.
So many AAA games feel copy and pasted with micro transactions. If that weren't the case, long development cycles wouldn't seem like a big deal.
That said, I feel that as long as you sprinkle in indie and AA games into your library, you'll be just fine.
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08-28-2023, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
K let's be real, Insomniac are actual wizards but they have different teams that work on different games. The biggest team is Spiderman, and Miles Morales was essentially a glorified DLC. The true sequel came 5 years after the original.Thats the price of more complex, better looking games.
I think there's room for what Spiderman did. Spider man 2018, a smaller spinoff game in 2020, and then true sequel in 2023.
Cause at this point I dont even get excited when games are announced cause for all I know I wont be alive by the time it comes out. thats how long it takes.
I think there's room for what Spiderman did. Spider man 2018, a smaller spinoff game in 2020, and then true sequel in 2023.
Cause at this point I dont even get excited when games are announced cause for all I know I wont be alive by the time it comes out. thats how long it takes.
Still incredibly impressive though but honestly, it's Insomniac lmao. They are fuking wild.
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08-29-2023, 01:36 AM
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'Games are more advanced now' does that apply though? Back then, the hardware making the games was painfully slow, so what looks like chit tier graphics by todays standards were cutting edge at the time.
The CGI scenes in Terminator 2 literally took months just for a few seconds of video. Something like Star Fox on the SNES could'nt have been an easy feat.
The CGI scenes in Terminator 2 literally took months just for a few seconds of video. Something like Star Fox on the SNES could'nt have been an easy feat.
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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats⏩
This 100%'Games are more advanced now' does that apply though? Back then, the hardware making the games was painfully slow, so what looks like chit tier graphics by todays standards were cutting edge at the time.
The CGI scenes in Terminator 2 literally took months just for a few seconds of video. Something like Star Fox on the SNES could'nt have been an easy feat.
The CGI scenes in Terminator 2 literally took months just for a few seconds of video. Something like Star Fox on the SNES could'nt have been an easy feat.
Also as I said the teams making these games now are massive by comparrison.
You have two extremes, assassin's creed **** coming out every year and just being ****, or the actual good games coming out once every 10 years because they are either lazy or milking the previous release for all it's worth.
Theres room for a middle ground here, there's no reason GTA, Elder scrolls etc can't be released more like every 5 years, that is reasonable.
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Originally Posted By stayhomeneet⏩
if GTA5 had no online element, GTA6 could've easily come out around 2017 if not sooner.This 100%
Also as I said the teams making these games now are massive by comparrison.
You have two extremes, assassin's creed **** coming out every year and just being ****, or the actual good games coming out once every 10 years because they are either lazy or milking the previous release for all it's worth.
Theres room for a middle ground here, there's no reason GTA, Elder scrolls etc can't be released more like every 5 years, that is reasonable.
Also as I said the teams making these games now are massive by comparrison.
You have two extremes, assassin's creed **** coming out every year and just being ****, or the actual good games coming out once every 10 years because they are either lazy or milking the previous release for all it's worth.
Theres room for a middle ground here, there's no reason GTA, Elder scrolls etc can't be released more like every 5 years, that is reasonable.
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
Join Date: Jul 2018Honestly that's a good thing. Can't be having 10 games out back to back.If you have a social lifethen it's no problems for good games to come every 3 years.
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Originally Posted By stayhomeneet⏩
well i look at mass effect and they released every 2 years and it was fine. this just the simp mentality. men are happy just talking to a girl and not wanting more. theyre happy playing the same **** for 5 years instead of demanding new and better games.This 100%
Also as I said the teams making these games now are massive by comparrison.
You have two extremes, assassin's creed **** coming out every year and just being ****, or the actual good games coming out once every 10 years because they are either lazy or milking the previous release for all it's worth.
Theres room for a middle ground here, there's no reason GTA, Elder scrolls etc can't be released more like every 5 years, that is reasonable.
Also as I said the teams making these games now are massive by comparrison.
You have two extremes, assassin's creed **** coming out every year and just being ****, or the actual good games coming out once every 10 years because they are either lazy or milking the previous release for all it's worth.
Theres room for a middle ground here, there's no reason GTA, Elder scrolls etc can't be released more like every 5 years, that is reasonable.
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Originally Posted By davik⏩
Also, in 6 years we had the arkham trilogywell i look at mass effect and they released every 2 years and it was fine. this just the simp mentality. men are happy just talking to a girl and not wanting more. theyre happy playing the same **** for 5 years instead of demanding new and better games.
"duh yur but games is more advanced now"
Gotham knights is literally less advanced than any of the arkham games.
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