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Thread: Biden “working on a new vaccine one that works”

post 1689160643 08-29-2023, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted By EdwardTheGreat⏩
Not taking anything from it...is that not what the information says?
No. But, I can see why folks would want to interpret it that way
post 1689160683 08-29-2023, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Gotta love this guy's spin.

What the CDC said "BA.2.86 may be more capable of causing infection inpeople who have previously had COVID-19 or who have received COVID-19 vaccines."

https://www.cdc.gov/respiratory-viru...9-variant.html
I thought the vaccine lessened the chance of getting the virus
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post 1689160923 08-29-2023, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted By InVentive44⏩
I thought the vaccine lessened the chance of getting the virus
It has with previous variants. I guess we'll have to see if the new multi-valent jabs continue that trend.

"Natural" immunity to previous variants ain't lookin' so hot either
post 1689160983 08-29-2023, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
It has with previous variants. I guess we'll have to see if the new multi-valent jabs continue that trend.

"Natural" immunity to previous variants ain't lookin' so hot either
Can you quantify how the jab has reduced chances of contracting covid?
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
The Cleveland Clinic study was from 2022, and here's an important meta analysis from 2023
From the journal 'Vaccines':
https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/11/5/991



So:
-getting fully vaccinated before November 2021 lead to less deaths and serious illness
-since Omicron the jabs don't have any additional benefit
-in countries where booster jabs are happening there's overall higher mortality even when eliminating other factors
-the repeated boosters may be causing more cancer, more autoimmune disease, more Covid infection by reducing natural immune responses

-if you got double jabbed in 2021 don't get more jabs.
i clicked on mdpi and it reeks of 100% garbage
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post 1689161313 08-29-2023, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted By Crazy_Desi⏩
Can you quantify how the jab has reduced chances of contracting covid?
Yes.

Quite similar to how infection reduces the chances of reinfection.
post 1689161563 08-29-2023, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted By InVentive44⏩
I thought the vaccine lessened the chance of getting the virus
The fact that they're willing to admit prior vaccinations can lead to higher likelihood of getting infected now is amazing in itself. And why would such an effect change for the future? If you get jabbed in a month or two why wouldn't your chances of getting the next dominant variant not be even higher? Unless SEVERELY immunocompromised how can they recommend anyone else get a jab?

Side note: this all really sucks. When they announced the vaccines in late 2020 I was psyched for the public, since I believed the lies that they'd be effective for a long time. Imagine getting 5-6 jabs in less than 3 years and believing they're effective.
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post 1689161673 08-29-2023, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted By Crazy_Desi⏩
Can you quantify how the jab has reduced chances of contracting covid?
This is a large study

28 RCTS's combined, total population is 286k folks

they found
he combined efficacy of full vaccination was 44·5% (95% CI 27·8–57·4) for preventing asymptomatic infections, 76·5% (69·8–81·7) for preventing symptomatic infections, 95·4% (95% credible interval 88·0–98·7) for preventing hospitalisation, 90·8% (85·5–95·1) for preventing severe infection, and 85·8% (68·7–94·6) for preventing death.
These data are rock solid
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post 1689162013 08-29-2023, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
The fact that they're willing to admit prior vaccinations can lead to higher likelihood of getting infected now is amazing in itself. And why would such an effect change for the future? If you get jabbed in a month or two why wouldn't your chances of getting the next dominant variant not be even higher? Unless SEVERELY immunocompromised how can they recommend anyone else get a jab?

Side note: this all really sucks. When they announced the vaccines in late 2020 I was psyched for the public, since I believed the lies that they'd be effective for a long time. Imagine getting 5-6 jabs in less than 3 years and believing they're effective.
I think you're using an incorrect reference category. If you frame the risk as relative to previous variants rather than relative to never vaccinated/infected (on which they should be more clear) it makes more logical sense.
post 1689162083 08-29-2023, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted By Crazy_Desi⏩
Can you quantify how the jab has reduced chances of contracting covid?
Almost every study shows the same thing. Vaccines protection against hospitalization and death remains skyhigh, but it wanes for infection. (thats why boosters are needed)







Mentally ill people like to talk about the waning, but they keep quiet about the vaccines effectiveness against death and severe symptoms which is arguable far more important than infection.


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post 1689162533 08-29-2023, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted By ViolentZ⏩
i clicked on mdpi and it reeks of 100% garbage
Says a person who relies on 2020-21 data as if it's relevant to Omicron. If you wish to pretend you don't like MDPI, which is a publisher of various studies, you can find the 'Vaccines' journal study analysis at the NIH as well. Vaccines is an international and peer reviewed journal. Got a made up problem with the journal Vaccines too?

Nice strawman attempt again, fhaggot.
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post 1689162693 08-29-2023, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
Says a person who relies on 2020-21 data as if it's relevant to Omicron. If you wish to pretend you don't like MDPI, which is a publisher of various studies, you can find the 'Vaccines' journal study analysis at the NIH as well. Vaccines is an international and peer reviewed journal. Got a made up problem with the journal Vaccines too?

Nice strawman attempt again, fhaggot.
But your recommendations/suggestions are based on 2021 data

"People glom onto information/misinformation based on their priors"
post 1689164013 08-29-2023, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
The fact that they're willing to admit prior vaccinations can lead to higher likelihood of getting infected now is amazing in itself. And why would such an effect change for the future? If you get jabbed in a month or two why wouldn't your chances of getting the next dominant variant not be even higher? Unless SEVERELY immunocompromised how can they recommend anyone else get a jab?

Side note: this all really sucks. When they announced the vaccines in late 2020 I was psyched for the public, since I believed the lies that they'd be effective for a long time. Imagine getting 5-6 jabs in less than 3 years and believing they're effective.
yep lol

I got covid around the time they were released, i would have got one myself but since i got covid i decided not too, natural immunity, then the news and chit started saying oh you MUST get it anyways! red flags were raised, then it got worse and they brought vaccine passports, "vaccinated" people still have to wear masks, all that retard chit

Im actually glad I got covid, it saved my life potentially
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
You think people realize this? You have people believing that having more rights taken away is the answer.
Well Dave I mean dam, I don't care if it's you, or sillie, or me, or wincel, or nolibs, or whoever, 99% of Americans are being bullied around by the "leaders". We as Americans should unite. Not under the Republi party, or the democratic party, but as brothers from other mothers and sisters from other misters, and protect ourselves. I'm pointing the finger at both sides for trying to f*** is all over.
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post 1689164663 08-29-2023, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted By CCFD2466⏩
Well Dave I mean dam, I don't care if it's you, or sillie, or me, or wincel, or nolibs, or whoever, 99% of Americans are being bullied around by the "leaders". We as Americans should unite. Not under the Republi party, or the democratic party, but as brothers from other mothers and sisters from other misters, and protect ourselves. I'm pointing the finger at both sides for trying to f*** is all over.
I really don't think any politicians care about individual voters - regardless of party.
post 1689165203 08-29-2023, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted By AlwaysFocus⏩
yep lol

I got covid around the time they were released, i would have got one myself but since i got covid i decided not too, natural immunity, then the news and chit started saying oh you MUST get it anyways! red flags were raised, then it got worse and they brought vaccine passports, "vaccinated" people still have to wear masks, all that retard chit

Im actually glad I got covid, it saved my life potentially
I went and got the viral vector J&J one shot in early Spring 2021 since I figured back then it would lessen my chances of spreading to others. I was likely the first or second person in May or June of 2021 in the RP to mention studies out of Ireland and Israel showing the vaccines were quickly waning. The same posters here saying Covid is still dangerous (LOLOLOL) and jabs are great were the ones who denied those study results back then. They're sticking to the early 2020 script despite evidence
and the reality that the virus is roughly 1/40th to 1/50th as dangerous as the OG form of the virus. Most of that being because the virus itself became less virulent, but also of course because everyone's already been infected and has some level of immunity.

I'd hoped the vaccines would be long lasting so when those initial studies came out in May or June 2021 I quickly became disillusioned. LULZ at the President and corporate media talking heads still saying for MONTHS afterward that if you got jabbed you wouldn't get Covid.
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
I went and got the viral vector J&J one shot in early Spring 2021 since I figured back then it would lessen my chances of spreading to others. I was likely the first or second person in May or June of 2021 in the RP to mention studies out of Ireland and Israel showing the vaccines were quickly waning. The same posters here saying Covid is still dangerous (LOLOLOL) and jabs are great were the ones who denied those study results back then. They're sticking to the early 2020 script despite evidence
and the reality that the virus is roughly 1/40th to 1/50th as dangerous as the OG form of the virus. Most of that being because the virus itself became less virulent, but also of course because everyone's already been infected and has some level of immunity.

I'd hoped the vaccines would be long lasting so when those initial studies came out in May or June 2021 I quickly became disillusioned. LULZ at the President and corporate media talking heads still saying for MONTHS afterward that if you got jabbed you wouldn't get Covid.
You also said you're ineligible for boosters because you got J&J
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Ahh the narrative:

Covid is not now, and never was, any cause for concern. Dindu nuffin to nobody who matters.

Masks and vaccines are cause for grave concern, they rek errbody.

You're someone that makes excuses for people still wearing them, and not only wearing them, but wearing them outdoors.....
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
You're someone that makes excuses for people still wearing them, and not only wearing them, but wearing them outdoors.....
I am?
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300+ posts in this thread of this phaqqot covid addict queefing about his sacred Rona - and no telling how many others lol...
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Ahh the narrative:

Covid is not now, and never was, any cause for concern. Dindu nuffin to nobody who matters.

Masks and vaccines are cause for grave concern, they rek errbody.
Tell the truth JFC, this pisses you TF off doesn't it.

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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I really don't think any politicians care about individual voters - regardless of party.
That's exactly what I'm saying
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Originally Posted By CCFD2466⏩
That's exactly what I'm saying
I'm with you, mane
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Originally Posted By 5x10⏩
Aren’t there papers already showing the more covid vaccines you get , the more likely you’ll be infected
Considering the volumes of statistics that show the opposite of your claim, it appears the answer is "No".
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I am?
Yes you do retard, constantly. Everyone with common sense has moved on from this bull****, from pretty much two years ago, but not people like you......
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Originally Posted By nutsy54⏩
Considering all the statistics show the opposite of your claim, it appears the answer is "No".
And here chimes in the boot-licker, who doesn't question anything, who will be getting his fourth booster shot and a flu shot, and who knows what else, and not even question why he's getting it.....
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Originally Posted By Crazy_Desi⏩
Can you quantify how the jab has reduced chances of contracting covid?
Sure...


https://www.dshs.texas.gov/covid-19-...9-cases-deaths




https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/co...akthrough-data


https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/u...ntry=~All+ages
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
And here chimes in the boot-licker, who doesn't question anything, who will be getting his fourth booster shot and a flu shot, and who knows what else, and not even question why he's getting it.....
Yet you can never address the actual facts and statistics. It's always just deflection and personal attacks...
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Originally Posted By CCFD2466⏩
Well Dave I mean dam, I don't care if it's you, or sillie, or me, or wincel, or nolibs, or whoever, 99% of Americans are being bullied around by the "leaders". We as Americans should unite. Not under the Republi party, or the democratic party, but as brothers from other mothers and sisters from other misters, and protect ourselves. I'm pointing the finger at both sides for trying to f*** is all over.
Why would I have very unite with someone who believes I should have lost my job for not getting the jab, and that I should have lived worse than a second class citizen???
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Originally Posted By nutsy54⏩
Yet you can never address the actual facts and statistics. It's always just deflection and personal attacks...
It's true, you're a boot-licker that can't think for himself, get those jabs boy, do what you're told, and don't question why you even need the jabs, just get them....

****, you're the type that probably justified masks in boot camp.....
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Yes you do retard, constantly. Everyone with common sense has moved on from this bull****, from pretty much two years ago, but not people like you......
Is someone else using your account to post in these threads?
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