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post 1689213943 08-30-2023, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted By semitope⏩
Part of it is people see videos of how easily some cars can be stolen online. It's possible that information is spreading more in some places rather than others. Either way, even if you are right and chicago is what fox news told you it is, it's still not wrong for them to sue.

several cities have actually sued them. There's a national law suit.



should we let wealthy corporations off the hook when they put their customers in harms way? You all ignore that a government would do this because their constituents were harmed. Oh, I forgot, republicans always pick the corporations side.



How do you know they aren't? Theft above a few hundred is a felony with several years in prison there.



criminals?
So law abiding citizens are suddenly turned into car thiefs because they stumble upon a video online where stealing the car looks easy?

Are there videos that show you how to scrub the VIN, change the plates, sell it without getting caught, etc?
post 1689214153 08-30-2023, 10:40 AM
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post 1689215013 08-30-2023, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted By RIKTER⏩
Your home can literally be broken into with a brick to the window or stiff kick/shoulder to your locked door....by 12 year olds.

Should people whose homes are broken into be sued by the city?

What if you dont lock your KIA and it's still broken into, who should be sued? Because a locked door means the car manufacturers should be sued, so Im assuming an unlocked door means the owner?
this shows a complete lack of understanding. Why the people? I thought you were going to ask if the builders should be sued. The builders would be for breaking code or doing something silly that made it easier for bad things to happen.
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Wait, you think thieves are actually punished in Chicago??? ****, you are beyond ignorant......
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Wait, you think thieves are actually punished in Chicago??? ****, you are beyond ignorant......
https://wgntv.com/western-suburbs/18...ry-car-thefts/

funny I only have to show one case to prove you're an idiot.
Originally Posted By rampagefc77⏩
So law abiding citizens are suddenly turned into car thiefs because they stumble upon a video online where stealing the car looks easy?

Are there videos that show you how to scrub the VIN, change the plates, sell it without getting caught, etc?
I mean, was there a detergent eating epidemic? I don't know but people do dumb things. Could just be criminals and those influenced by them become focused on it because its easy.
Is there no limit to what people will believe if it is prefaced by the phrase,
"Scientists say" ?

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post 1689215443 08-30-2023, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted By semitope⏩
this shows a complete lack of understanding. Why the people? I thought you were going to ask if the builders should be sued. The builders would be for breaking code or doing something silly that made it easier for bad things to happen.
I left that out because I honestly didnt believe anyone would think the builder of the home, say 25 years ago should be sued today because the 3rd home owner had a burglary...but here we are.

But you didnt answer my other question?

So I'll ask it again, if you believe the car manufacturer should be sued for someone breaking into a locked car, then by that same logic, the car owner should be sued for not locking their car and getting stolen, Unless ooops, still the car manufacturers fault?

Should liquor stores be sued for someone stealing their liquor? I mean Walmart wont even stop attempted thefts so thats a no brainer they should be sued right??
post 1689215623 08-30-2023, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted By RIKTER⏩
I left that out because I honestly didnt believe anyone would think the builder of the home, say 25 years ago should be sued today because the 3rd home owner had a burglary...but here we are.

But you didnt answer my other question?

So I'll ask it again, if you believe the car manufacturer should be sued for someone breaking into a locked car, then by that same logic, the car owner should be sued for not locking their car and getting stolen, Unless ooops, still the car manufacturers fault?

Should liquor stores be sued for someone stealing their liquor? I mean Walmart wont even stop attempted thefts so thats a no brainer they should be sued right??
you left it out but it was the logical thing. Why on earth would it be the home owner?

If the builder did something against code or stupid, yes it would be them. Doesn't matter when its found out. If they mess up and an apartment building collapses 25 years later, it's on them.

Your questions suggest you simply don't understand
Is there no limit to what people will believe if it is prefaced by the phrase,
"Scientists say" ?

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post 1689216223 08-30-2023, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted By semitope⏩
you left it out but it was the logical thing. Why on earth would it be the home owner?

If the builder did something against code or stupid, yes it would be them. Doesn't matter when its found out. If they mess up and an apartment building collapses 25 years later, it's on them.

Your questions suggest you simply don't understand
You just moved the goalpost and changed the narrative to one of where the builder is responsible for a badly built structure collapsing onto people, which no one disagrees with, instead of directly answering my 2 questions?

1) Should cities sue home builders of 25 year old homes if the 3rd owner of the home suffers a burglary?

2) If car manufactures should be responsible for their locked cars getting stolen, then who should be responsible for unlocked cars getting stolen?
post 1689217163 08-30-2023, 11:32 AM
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I’m dumber for having read the defense arguments for Chicago.
post 1689218673 08-30-2023, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
Theives: black
Car makers: Asian


Go after the Asians.

Leftys hate Asians.
And yet Asians vote for Leftys...
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post 1689218793 08-30-2023, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted By semitope⏩
this shows a complete lack of understanding. Why the people? I thought you were going to ask if the builders should be sued. The builders would be for breaking code or doing something silly that made it easier for bad things to happen.



https://wgntv.com/western-suburbs/18...ry-car-thefts/

funny I only have to show one case to prove you're an idiot.



I mean, was there a detergent eating epidemic? I don't know but people do dumb things. Could just be criminals and those influenced by them become focused on it because its easy.
One story is your proof? And what happened to the 16 year old?
post 1689219043 08-30-2023, 12:06 PM
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Leftists are soft on crime, thieves in Chicago pretty much get a slap on the wrist. Crime skyrockets, businesses leave, and activists and politicians blame it on racism, Auto Thefts skyrocket, leftists and politicians blame the companies who make the vehicles.....
post 1689225293 08-30-2023, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted By Jasonw1178⏩
Unless there is a law that states what type of protections a vehicle has to have, he doesn't have a case.
You're thinking of how criminal law works. This is civil law. I would like to know the mayor's motive. If he's trying to extract cash for the city, fuuuuuk him, worse than an ambulance chaser.
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post 1689225493 08-30-2023, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Leftists are soft on crime, thieves in Chicago pretty much get a slap on the wrist. Crime skyrockets, businesses leave, and activists and politicians blame it on racism, Auto Thefts skyrocket, leftists and politicians blame the companies who make the vehicles.....
And the people who live in these garbage dumps continuously vote for the same soft on crime politicians.

It's hard to feel bad for them when they vote for it every single election.
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post 1689228243 08-30-2023, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted By fitnessislife⏩
And the people who live in these garbage dumps continuously vote for the same soft on crime politicians.

It's hard to feel bad for them when they vote for it every single election.
Those who actually voted for him, deserve everything they get. Those of us with common sense voted for Valas, who was winning, and then out of nowhere, Johnson somehow won.....
post 1689228733 08-30-2023, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Those who actually voted for him, deserve everything they get. Those of us with common sense voted for Valas, who was winning,and then out of nowhere, Johnson somehow won.....
More midnight ballot dumps for Johnson?
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post 1689231053 08-30-2023, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted By RIKTER⏩
You just moved the goalpost and changed the narrative to one of where the builder is responsible for a badly built structure collapsing onto people, which no one disagrees with, instead of directly answering my 2 questions?

1) Should cities sue home builders of 25 year old homes if the 3rd owner of the home suffers a burglary?

2) If car manufactures should be responsible for their locked cars getting stolen, then who should be responsible for unlocked cars getting stolen?
Anyone here on the left care to answer this^^^ especially my bolded question #2.
post 1689231213 08-30-2023, 03:13 PM
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Chicago is about to lose more jobs, products, and finish off the economy. No one is going to stay in Chicago after this.
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Good they should be sued for allowing that chit and tik tok should be banned for promoting it
post 1689232473 08-30-2023, 03:37 PM
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I actually got a ticket (warning) in the northern suburbs or Chicago years ago for leaving my GPS in plain sight when I parked over night in a hotel parking lot. It said I was inviting crime.
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Originally Posted By goody1⏩
I actually got a ticket (warning) in the northern suburbs or Chicago years ago for leaving my GPS in plain sight when I parked over night in a hotel parking lot. It said I was inviting crime.
What law/statute did it say you broke?
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
What law/statute did it say you broke?
Being a white guy in the hood.
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
What law/statute did it say you broke?
To be honest I don’t remember. It was about 7 years ago. All I remember is that it stated I was inviting crime by leaving my GPS in sight over night
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Why does the mayor of a city get to sue for this at all? Seems to me, if anyone should get to sue, it would be the owner of the car. Also, if the mayor cashes in, maybe he should go after some reparations from Honda next for making the most stolen car of all time...the Civic. If ya gonna go clown world, go all the way...
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post 1689235353 08-30-2023, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted By Fishman15⏩
Why does the mayor of a city get to sue for this at all? Seems to me, if anyone should get to sue, it would be the owner of the car. Also, if the mayor cashes in, maybe he should go after some reparations from Honda next for making the most stolen car of all time...the Civic. If ya gonna go clown world, go all the way...
Because politicians know that corporations and the big business are an easier target. People have been indoctrinated to hate big business, so fewer people would be against this.

Commies and socialists love this stuff
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Originally Posted By rampagefc77⏩
You should be allowed to leave your car unlocked and not fear someone stealing it.
in a normal society? Yes. In America? No
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
This isn't normal. Gee what a coinkidink that Chicago is the first city to do this, though I wouldn't be surprised if San Francisco copies them.
It's kinda normal, there are a bunch of cities filing these lawsuits, I don't think Chicago was the first.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/93kd...ties-are-suing
Originally Posted By Jasonw1178⏩
Unless there is a law that states what type of protections a vehicle has to have, he doesn't have a case.
The cities have a case, they are claiming damages (excessive costs for policing that were preventable) due to the car company's negligence.
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
It's kinda normal, there are a bunch of cities filing these lawsuits, I don't think Chicago was the first.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/93kd...ties-are-suing




The cities have a case, they are claiming damages (excessive costs for policing that were preventable) due to the car company's negligence.
Kias and Hyundais aren't the only vehicle being stolen.....
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These leftist cities have above average crime. A car company that sells cars across the nation, and world, shouldn't have to alter their entire production and business just for one or two cities that can't control their crime. We call this "backwards logic".

Again, this is socialist/totalitarianism plain and simple. These are not reasonable demands.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Kias and Hyundais aren't the only vehicle being stolen.....
No one ever claimed they were.
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
No one ever claimed they were.
So these places are soft on crime, and they decide to not punish the offenders, but the car manufacturers?
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