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09-03-2023, 04:06 AM
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How did Scandinavians end up being so left wing/progressives?
How is it they have no conservative inclinations at all?
09-03-2023, 04:09 AM
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Different definition
09-03-2023, 04:40 AM
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lutheranism and protestantism
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09-03-2023, 04:46 AM
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Cold Weather...
Cold places tend to be more socialist, becvause in ancient times lone wolves perished easier.
Cold places tend to be more socialist, becvause in ancient times lone wolves perished easier.
09-03-2023, 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Aren't some of the most conservative voting blocks in the US Lutherans and Protestants? I believe catholics vote left way more no?lutheranism and protestantism
Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
But a lot of very cold places are socially conservative also. Russia, Poland, Alaska etc.Cold Weather...
Cold places tend to be more socialist, becvause in ancient times lone wolves perished easier.
Cold places tend to be more socialist, becvause in ancient times lone wolves perished easier.
09-03-2023, 05:21 AM
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They're better educated.
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09-03-2023, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted By misctrader⏩
good point - i dont know thenAren't some of the most conservative voting blocks in the US Lutherans and Protestants? I believe catholics vote left way more no?
But a lot of very cold places are socially conservative also. Russia, Poland, Alaska etc.
But a lot of very cold places are socially conservative also. Russia, Poland, Alaska etc.
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09-03-2023, 06:00 AM
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US is literlly the most progressive hell hole where this stuff spawns from. its a different culture there. they may be progressive but its not LGBT ***gotry safe space bs.
09-03-2023, 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted By ithappenss⏩
Yes this is a very important distinction, there's liberal progressive and there's brainwashed and braindead US liberal progressive. Pretty much can say the same about conservatism too but arguably not as extreme.US is literlly the most progressive hell hole where this stuff spawns from. its a different culture there. they may be progressive but its not LGBT ***gotry safe space bs.
09-03-2023, 06:12 AM
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They have a strong sense of community and mutual support, so the hyper-individualistic "fuk you I got mine" mentality that the US has is largely absent. They also don't bootlick the rich and direct all their anger to people poorer than them like yanks do. That said they are quite capitalist and pro-business, just have very robust public services, social safety nets etc to ensure everyone has at least a decent standard of living. And it works incredibly well for them
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09-03-2023, 06:19 AM
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09-03-2023, 06:36 AM
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I think Scandinavian countries have had a tough history with the cold/harsh weather, frequent wars, and generally trying to scrape a living with few resources. Coupled with a homogenous culture/people, it was convenient for people to accept a welfare state where the government would look after everyone. And generally, when you are looked after and you know there is a safety net, you tend to lose the "fighting spirit" or survival drive.
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09-03-2023, 06:37 AM
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Hmm I'm not saying this is it but just trying to figure out how it would be possible
Jewsies infiltrate u.s. knowing this is the cultural epicenter
Take over media
Once they know they're big enough they'll switch the media around on Whites
Non u.s.'ers aren't in the u.s. so their only source of info is the media, so bias the media. Non us'ers aren't in the u.s. so don't know what's going on, copy the "u.s." So there's that
Then they could also infiltrate the power structure of said country
They could use u.s. ties to infiltrate said power structure
There could be a dominant group even controlling the u.s., same group doing both
Could be all or any of those imo
Jewsies infiltrate u.s. knowing this is the cultural epicenter
Take over media
Once they know they're big enough they'll switch the media around on Whites
Non u.s.'ers aren't in the u.s. so their only source of info is the media, so bias the media. Non us'ers aren't in the u.s. so don't know what's going on, copy the "u.s." So there's that
Then they could also infiltrate the power structure of said country
They could use u.s. ties to infiltrate said power structure
There could be a dominant group even controlling the u.s., same group doing both
Could be all or any of those imo
09-03-2023, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted By misctrader⏩
Leftist media propaganda.How is it they have no conservative inclinations at all?
You can shape any generation you want by exposing them to the info(right or left) you choose.
09-03-2023, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted By Shortfuze⏩
This.I think Scandinavian countries have had a tough history with the cold/harsh weather, frequent wars, and generally trying to scrape a living with few resources. Coupled with a homogenous culture/people, it was convenient for people to accept a welfare state where the government would look after everyone. And generally, when you are looked after and you know there is a safety net, you tend to lose the "fighting spirit" or survival drive.
Originally Posted By MetroBrah⏩
It has 'worked' for them so far because you're talking about an extremely homogeneous population of well educated people that are intelligent, hard working, and don't commit a lot of crimes.honestly doesn't seem so bad except for the immigration thing
Mass migration will cause major issues with Scandinavian culture/nations.
09-03-2023, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted By misctrader⏩
It's a way more conservative type of Protestantism in the US.Aren't some of the most conservative voting blocks in the US Lutherans and Protestants? I believe catholics vote left way more no?
Catholics are split among racial lines. White Catholics vote conservative and Hispanic/other minorities vote left.
09-03-2023, 09:47 AM
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I asked my Grandmother this a while ago since my great grandparents came from sweden and she visited family in Sweden every year up until around 2010 or so.
She said it used to be the safest country. No one locked their doors, they left their windows open, they leave their kids in strollers outside of restaurants and stores in the cold while they go inside, etc. It was a different world up until seeming the past 2 decades.
Her thoughts are that it was a mixture of propaganda pushing the excessive progressivism, the general high trust and openness of Scandinavians, and the push against a lot of conserving culture that wrecked the general community and trust of Sweden. Then add in the immigrants and it was a recipe for disaster.
It's definitely a very in depth discussion because so much stuff was happening, but Swedes especially are way too high trusting people and just wanting to get along that it was taken advantage of. The war torn immigrants destroyed the safety aspect, it took away their cultural identity in a lot of ways, and now they're in a weird state of comfort purgatory.
She said it used to be the safest country. No one locked their doors, they left their windows open, they leave their kids in strollers outside of restaurants and stores in the cold while they go inside, etc. It was a different world up until seeming the past 2 decades.
Her thoughts are that it was a mixture of propaganda pushing the excessive progressivism, the general high trust and openness of Scandinavians, and the push against a lot of conserving culture that wrecked the general community and trust of Sweden. Then add in the immigrants and it was a recipe for disaster.
It's definitely a very in depth discussion because so much stuff was happening, but Swedes especially are way too high trusting people and just wanting to get along that it was taken advantage of. The war torn immigrants destroyed the safety aspect, it took away their cultural identity in a lot of ways, and now they're in a weird state of comfort purgatory.
09-03-2023, 09:58 AM
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Social safety net is always better than dog eat dog unfettered capitalism, or worse, crony capitalism. For social safety net to work, you need an intact social contract. Social contract is largely intact in Scandinavia. It’s easier keep the social contract intact if you have a small, homogenous, almost tribal, highly educated and evolved society. Humans tend to care more about humans that look and speak like them. We are more trusting of them and tend to help them more. It’s not racist to admit that.
09-03-2023, 10:00 AM
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09-03-2023, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted By Mercworx⏩
Yeah that expression is so true.No outside pressures. They lived in lala land for a long time.
They are the perfect example of the “weak men create hard times” cycle.
They are the perfect example of the “weak men create hard times” cycle.
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