Thank you for this advice. I am going back and forth between (1) ignoring the message and (2) writing a short reply that acknowledges what she said and agrees to thepause.

100% do (1)

Will do, sir. I'll see her around the gym, but will try to avoid her. If we lock eyes near each other, I'll be friendly and non-standoffish. I won't try to do a stop and chat, but aheyor a wave will suffice (unless you think differently).

Just go about your business without being butthurt. She barely exists to you now.

Thank you for this. I needed it. I will keep on truckin', as the thread title suggests.

Damn, who could've seen this coming?

Not sure if you're being serious, but I believe you are. I was completely shocked when that text came through and ended with, "can I tell you that I find you cute hah." That was the first time she showed interest in me. I've been having trouble with sleep the past few days. First it was the high of knowing the woman I like feels the same way about me. Then it was the realization that I may have lost my best friend and potential girlfriend.

Imo the biggest take away should be how fast you need to act

Rewind and put yourself back in the situation and once you saw an opening you should have pounced

But you let it slide and she pondered on being a sloot - in other words, there was build up, you let it pass and then she came to her senses and then she thought better about it

That is sloots gonna sloot and what people are talking about

This bish had a bf too

She prob would have acted in the moment but now she's going back to her good girl routine

When she first conveyed her interest in me she was at a bar with 3 friends and must have left shortly after to go back to her apartment with those same friends who all spent the night. She was pretty drunk. I want her to be sober when we first have sex. There's no way I could have gone over there, with her friends there, and slept with her considering she's drunk and it's likely a 1, maybe 2, bedroom apartment. Now if she had invited me over? Yeah, I would have gone over, because it is what it is. She didn't though. She was unsure of pursuing anything with me. She just knew that she really likes me. In her words, "I need a drink to say what I mean."

I was not. Everybody ITT was telling you things didn't look good with this girl.

True.

Well, you need to bring that chit to a crux point, otherwise they are just meaningless words. How much do they mean now?

You need to ignore her or else you'll become a beta orbiter. Yea, it's great she showed interest but... is she going to come to her senses again if it comes to that crux point?

I mean I personally don't think you should get involved, we're just hypothetically talking about what could work

You need to ignore her right now imo and then bring it up and nail it head on next time if she contacts you

Otherwise.. what, you're gonna keep talking to her in hopes you get another moment like that in which case she might retreat again? Further, she can blame you quite a bit now since she's turned you down once. If she regretted what she did at all

A woman making the situation all about herself and her narcissim?

I'm so shocked

She and I texted each other long messages multiple times a day for three and a half weeks straight. I think things were very good. I could tell she's interested in me. She fell for me during our second meeting, even though a male friend she's known since middle school came along. In hindsight, he ended up being a third wheel.Yeah, I don't want to be pen pals with her. At the end of our firstdate, I told her how I felt. Although she didn't react to my feelings, she continued to communicate with me. What I'm getting at is I've shown how much I like her when we're face to face, not only over text messages. I am ignoring her, per advice from HangingChad and Luc1fer. I don't know what she means by apause. A pessimistic view could be that she's trying to let me down easy. She may not have the guts to say that it's over. A more optimistic view is that she's confused and needs time to reassess the situation and decide if she wants to pursue something with me. If she ends up contacting me, I plan on taking her out for a meal then back to my place. No doubt about that.Her behavior is disappointing because she clearly knew what was up from the moment I asked for her number. She knew what was going to happen if we continued seeing each other outside of the gym yet seems comfortable throwing away a strong connection with someone she has ahuge crushon.

Stop oversharing, OP. ****

Where you fuk with every single girl every single time is when you say “meet me for _______ at 7:30pm on Saturday”.

Stop doing this! Stop, stop , stop.

Stop making your initial date a concrete activity at a certain time at specific date. You’re begging for them to reject you.

I know you think you’re being direct and straightforward, but your lobbing yourself up for a rejection every single time and you fall for it over and over again.

??? This is my thread. I am sharing what I want to. I don't get what the issue is.It works though. If they like me, they either accept or propose a new time. What's the alternative?

The best thing about this thread is that we'll never know for sure if OP is real or a troll because this chit is just so ridiculous.

I intend to keep updating this thread with more content. I guess there isn't much to do now since I don't have any prospective dates at the moment.

At this point I don't even care if it's a roll bread...

[QUOTE=HangingChad post_id=1689529493]At this point I don't even care if it's a roll bread...

[img]https://media.tenor.com/kxgmlhlYkO8AAAAd/its-still.giimg][/QUOTE]If it makes you feel any better, it is real. (srs)

I’m going to say this again OP. Girls like texting this type of thing back and forth. I don’t know what they get from it, but they do it. It doesn’t mean anything.

You should have abandoned straight away, as per everyone’s posts.

Am I to infer that you're convinced she just liked texting me and doesn't have any feelings for me? I disagree. I believe she (1) was and still is my best friend and (2) has feelings for me. You weren't there in person on the second meeting. She loves getting to know me and is inquisitive and sometimes looks at me like I'm the love of her life. Also, I can't abandon hangouts with attractive women. I don't have enough clout to be rejecting dates from women I'm interested in.

Son...BFF? Really? After a couple dates and some texts?

Looks like she grabbed another in her gravitational pull.

If for some reason you get another date, make your intentions known right off the bat that you will have sexxors with her. Rip off that band-aide so you're not setting yourself up for a long road of heartache and an empty pocketbook.

I'll say it again, there is no end-game scenario where someone doesn't get hurt.

Yes it was a couple dates, butsometexts? It was daily texting for three and a half weeks. Our messages to each other were long and showed our mutual interest in each other. I don't know if she has any orbiters, or how many she might have if she does. I'm following the advice I got ITT and have not replied to her most recent text from Sunday evening. If she contacts me again, I'll reiterate my feelings. I spent a measly $84.27 on food and drink with her for two dates, and that includes my food as well. I have no issue spending money when I'm with her. Regarding your last sentence: isn't that the point? In this scenario, her current boyfriend is the one who would be hurt. However, what are the odds their relationship works when she's clearly interested in other men?

Did you at least meet up with HJ girl this weekend?

There's something to be said for the experience you're getting. Even though there's been a lot of good advice in this thread, sometimes you need to make mistakes to learn. And if you can't flirt with women at all, then yeah practice even on chicks where it's not going to go anywhere is a good thing. You'll get your heart ripped out a few times but that happens to everyone (usually when they're about 12-14, but whatever, you're a late bloomer). Up your flirt game, ditch the glasses, and shave your mustache stubble...you could be smashing very soon regardless of your obsession with getting lean.

You haven't gone on any dates. You've just bought free dinners for some sloot who is treating you like her beta orbiter.

I did, not on Saturday night as originally planned but on Sunday afternoon. I didn't write about it because I didn't want to detract attention from the woman I've been focused on for the past several weeks. The HJ woman and I went to the mall with her 5-year-old daughter. The HJ woman looked at clothes in different stores. I made the mistake of not dressing up. I wasn't sure if she was coming to get me, so I didn't shower. I wore a t-shirt, gym shorts, and gym shoes. I didn't style my hair either. I approached 4 women when I was there. I didn't get any numbers, but it was good experience. What may have contributed to me striking out was the fact that some of the women may have seen me interacting with my female friend and her daughter before I approached them.

I can flirt with women. I don't want to get into the glasses vs. no glasses debate at the moment, but I will be getting contacts and a new pair of glasses soon when I get my annual eye exam. I shaved before mydateon Saturday. It's a must. The cut is going fairly well. It's solid, slow progress which is what I'm going for. It's been a month.That's a pessimistic view, but I understand your perspective. I think more optimistically than that.

Haven't heard back from the woman who's got a boyfriend. It's been almost 4 days. I'll try not to write about her unless she's made some form of contact with me.

The woman from post #193 (https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...post1687535173) removed me from IG a while ago, but I've been able to send her messages and she's seen them. I sent her a follow request and she accepted. Sent her, "Hey [her name], how's your week going?"



The woman whose photo I shared in post #22 (https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...post1686773563) accepted my IG request. Sent her a message, but no reply.



A 21-year-old woman whose number I got from IG hasn't replied to me too often. I'm not sure how to proceed. I would love to meet her for lunch or dinner. She gave me her friend's number too.



This 34-year-old woman is someone I've worked with. She lives in a different state, and we don't talk too often, but she's very beautiful. I may try to ask her out anyway, lol. She's single, so that's cool. Here's part of her hnnngggh leg.



This is the Korean woman who has a boyfriend and lives in another state. She's gorgeous. I was horny the other night (well, I always am) and asked her if she likes having her toes sucked. She replied with a shocked emoji. We text fairly often, but I try not to flirt too much because she isn't always receptive to it because of the boyfriend, I presume. She seems to think her boyfriend isn't going to propose to her. I'd love to fly her out for a weekend of fun!

I approached a beautiful 25-year-old Latina today at the gym. My opener was related to cars since I've seen her wear a Chevy shirt on several occasions. We had a nice chat for a couple minutes, and when I asked for her number she said, "No, sorry," and walked away. I'm 3/9 at the gym when it comes to getting numbers. I am going to meet up with my female friend tonight who is open to the idea of me meeting and approaching women. We may go to bars, the mall, etc. Last night, I deleted Tinder because I will remake it and make dating apps once I am around 10% body fat. There's a speed dating event tomorrow night for ages 32-44 so I may go to that by myself and see how it goes.

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