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post 1690099013 09-15-2023, 07:22 AM
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Don't feel pressured to get it( shot #7) unless your personal doctor thinks that you are old and your body is fkd up.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Don't feel pressured to get it( shot #7) unless your personal doctor thinks that you are old and your body is fkd up.
Or you have kids in school who have grandparents
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Since vaccines save lives and money, I can see why an insurance company would make that investment.
Yeah, I knew you were gonna go there with that simple minded take on it. Here's the thing though.....

IFyour sacred Rona was as bad as you thinkit is, there wouldn't be a need to incentivize the vaccines for it. Because people would be lined up in the street begging for the shiit.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Or you have kids in school who have grandparents
Let the grandparents protect themselves any way they see fit. Leave the young healthy people alone.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Yeah, I knew you were gonna go there with that simple minded take on it. Here's the thing though.....

IFyour sacred Rona was as bad as you thinkit is, there wouldn't be a need to incentivize the vaccines for it. Because people would be lined up in the street begging for the shiit.
It's the insurance company. My guess is they figure vaccine incentives will cost less than treating unvaccinated folks.
post 1690099373 09-15-2023, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted By EdwardTheGreat⏩
Let the grandparents protect themselves any way they see fit. Leave the young healthy people alone.
Some grandkids like seeing their grandparents.
post 1690099603 09-15-2023, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
It's the insurance company. My guess is they figure vaccine incentives will cost less than treating unvaccinated folks.
Dude, what part ofIF your sacred Rona was as bad as you think it is, there wouldn't be a need to incentivize the vaccines for it. Because people would be lined up in the street begging for the shiit.."are you not getting?

Seriously.. THE most horrific black plague zombie apocalypse virus of DOOM in the history of mankind, right? Nine million people dropping dead every hour from it... or eight million. Whatever.

Evil... dark scourge on the very planet. Does this to people...



Yet people have to be coerced and persuaded into taking the vaccine for it lol.

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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Or you have kids in school who have grandparents
True
I forgot that most posters are not into the healthy lifestyle or health and fitness, that was very 2005 of me to assume that.
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post 1690100013 09-15-2023, 07:56 AM
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I'm sure Bushlouse has had several nights where he woke up in a pool of sweat and needed a swig of that bottle of Jack next to his bed to calm his nerves over his nightmare of getting a covid shot.
Deepfat: "I guarantee I beat you by at least 6 strokes. Afterwards, I'll slide my thick conservative cawk in your old lady just to finish the job."

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z4: "MMA match works, too. So when are you available this month?

Deep: "I won't subject myself to being in the presence of a scumbag."
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
True
I forgot that most posters are not into the healthy lifestyle or health and fitness, that was very 2005 of me to assume that.
The other thing is that while a healthy person might not be personally affected severely, than can pass it on to others who might not fare as well. Not all school-age kids nor their grandparents are fitnessmaxxing or ivermectinmaxxing.
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
I'm sure Bushlouse has had several nights where he woke up in a pool of sweat and needed a swig of that bottle of Jack next to his bed to calm his nerves over his nightmare of getting a covid shot.
The fear is real if he is age 12-35.
He might get a week of myo.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
The other thing is that while a healthy person might not be personally affected severely, than can pass it on to others who might not fare as well. Not all school-age kids nor their grandparents are fitnessmaxxing or ivermectinmaxxing.
fair point.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Some grandkids like seeing their grandparents.
Great, so let the grandparents get whatever protection they feel they need. They can inject themselves with whatever they want. A vaccinated child can still catch, and spread, covid just like an unvacccinated child can.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
The fear is real if he is age 12-35.
He might get a week of myo.
He's like 65 with a lifetime of gyno.
Deepfat: "I guarantee I beat you by at least 6 strokes. Afterwards, I'll slide my thick conservative cawk in your old lady just to finish the job."

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Deep: "On second thought, I don't play golf with broads. You're such a scumbag that I'd be much more inclined to just slap the chit out of you."

z4: "MMA match works, too. So when are you available this month?

Deep: "I won't subject myself to being in the presence of a scumbag."
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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
I'm sure Bushlouse has had several nights where he woke up in a pool of sweat and needed a swig of that bottle of Jack next to his bed to calm his nerves over his nightmare of getting a covid shot.
Hey Carl, one of the caddies said somebody tossed a condom over in the bushes by the 9th hole.. Think you can get that taken care of before any of the crushers arrive and see it? Thanks son!

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post 1690101233 09-15-2023, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted By uncle
The fear is real if he is age 12-35.
He might get a week of myo.
You're not in that age group Benny, so why six shots?
Originally Posted By uncle
Don't feel pressured to get it( shot #7) unless your personal doctor thinks that you are old and your body is fkd up.
And why stop at #7? You know you want it lol.
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Originally Posted By EdwardTheGreat⏩
Great, so let the grandparents get whatever protection they feel they need. They can inject themselves with whatever they want. A vaccinated child can still catch, and spread, covid just like an unvacccinated child can.
Lower chances/risk tho.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Lower chances/risk tho.
If you chop your legs off there's a 0% chance you will ever need a knee replacement
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
That's great

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/programs/bridge/index.html

https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2023/...uninsured.html
Glad you found that to be good news. But I guess that means you’re earlier statement/criticism of Berenson’s take was misguided.


“ What Berenson doesn't address is that the US is also one of the few, if not the only, "advanced country" without universal/national health insurance.

The CDC can recommend to everyonewithout any fiscal responsibility because the US has moved covid vaccines over to private funding.

If you can afford insurance, and vaccines are covered, you can get one. If not - no soup for you.”






Certainly wouldn’t be the first time you’ve been misguided in your criticisms of him though. At least this time you didn’t outright lie about his claims , so perhaps you’re making progress.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Glad you found that to be good news. But I guess that means you’re earlier statement/criticism of Berenson’s take was misguided.


“ What Berenson doesn't address is that the US is also one of the few, if not the only, "advanced country" without universal/national health insurance.

The CDC can recommend to everyonewithout any fiscal responsibility because the US has moved covid vaccines over to private funding.

If you can afford insurance, and vaccines are covered, you can get one. If not - no soup for you.”



Certainly wouldn’t be the first time you’ve been misguided in your criticisms of him though. At least this time you didn’t outright lie about his claims , so perhaps you’re making progress.
No, not really related to Berenson's spin jobs.

The US doesn't have universal insurance.

Germany has a mix of both. Public insurance is restricting for whom they'll cover vaccines, but anyone with private insurance that covers vaccines is good to go.

I knew coverage was shifting in the US, but didn't know about the public-private partnership. Pharma companies committing to providing vaccines to those without insurance is a little surprising tbh. Hopefully that plan is in place before this bridge program expires.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Lower chances/risk tho.
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/20...study-suggests


People who are fully vaccinated against Covid yet catch the virus are just as infectious to others in their household as infected unvaccinated people, research suggests.


The analysis further suggests that whether an infected individual is themselves fully vaccinated or unvaccinated makes little or no difference to how infectious they are to their household contacts.


The team add that the peak level of virus in infected individuals was the same regardless of whether they were jabbed or not.


This likely explains why [fully vaccinated] breakthrough cases are as infectious to their contacts as [unvaccinated] cases” said Prof Ajit Lalvani, chair of infectious diseases at Imperial College London and an author of the study.


“What we found, surprisingly, was that already by three months after receipt of the second vaccine dose, the risk of acquiring infection was higher compared to being more recently vaccinated,” said Lalvani.

“This suggests that vaccine-induced protection is already waning by about three months post-secondary,” he added.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/20...study-suggests


People who are fully vaccinated against Covid yet catch the virus are just as infectious to others in their household as infected unvaccinated people, research suggests.


The analysis further suggests that whether an infected individual is themselves fully vaccinated or unvaccinated makes little or no difference to how infectious they are to their household contacts.


The team add that the peak level of virus in infected individuals was the same regardless of whether they were jabbed or not.


This likely explains why [fully vaccinated] breakthrough cases are as infectious to their contacts as [unvaccinated] cases” said Prof Ajit Lalvani, chair of infectious diseases at Imperial College London and an author of the study.


“What we found, surprisingly, was that already by three months after receipt of the second vaccine dose, the risk of acquiring infection was higher compared to being more recently vaccinated,” said Lalvani.

“This suggests that vaccine-induced protection is already waning by about three months post-secondary,” he added.
Vaccines reduce the chances of infection (vaccine effectiveness) and thus transmission. Vaccines (and previous infection) also provide for faster clearance of the virus.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Lower chances/risk tho.
That's debatable, but giving you that, how much lower?
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Vaccines reduce the chances of infection and thus transmission. Vaccines (and previous infection) also provide for faster clearance of the virus.
Regurgitating what vaccines do does not prove that these newly defined vaccines provide enough protection against the mild risks associated with this newest strain of covid....especially when the risks from the vaccine exist.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
No, not really related to Berenson's spin jobs.

The US doesn't have universal insurance.

Germany has a mix of both. Public insurance is restricting for whom they'll cover vaccines, but anyone with private insurance that covers vaccines is good to go.

I knew coverage was shifting in the US, but didn't know about the public-private partnership. Pharma companies committing to providing vaccines to those without insurance is a little surprising tbh. Hopefully that plan is in place before this bridge program expires.
It is, because you’re accusing him of spinning it by ignoring the (what you thought to be) fact that part of the reason for recommending to everyone was due to them not having to pay for it. So you’re trying to deflect away from the collusion between big pharma and big govt. to continue to push the injections. Then you realize our govt. is actually still spending tons of money on the boosters. They are also pouring tons of money into researching new injections….because for some reason the pharmaceutical companies have seen record profits but still need taxpayer money to pay for research for them.
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Originally Posted By EdwardTheGreat⏩
That's debatable, but giving you that, how much lower?
It's time dependent. Has been for a couple years now.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
It is, because you’re accusing him of spinning it by ignoring the (what you thought to be) fact that part of the reason for recommending to everyone was due to them not having to pay for it. So you’re trying to deflect away from the collusion between big pharma and big govt. to continue to push the injections. Then you realize our govt. is actually still spending tons of money on the boosters. They are also pouring tons of money into researching new injections….because for some reason the pharmaceutical companies have seen record profits but still need taxpayer money to pay for research for them.
If you read about the bridge program and to what manufacturers have committed (at least to uninsured Americans), it doesn't look like collusion.

Berenson appeals to an audience that doesn't like vaccines. I give him props for writing in ways they enjoy, and pay for

I'm not opposed to public funding of science.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Vaccines reduce the chances of infection (vaccine effectiveness) and thus transmission. Vaccines (and previous infection) also provide for faster clearance of the virus.
So you’re saying we need to protect the protected from the unprotected by giving the unprotected the same protection that didn’t protect the protected from the unprotected in the first place. Got it.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
It's time dependent. Has been for a couple years now.
How much lower?
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'Bout 350?
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
So you’re saying we need to protect the protected from the unprotected by giving the unprotected the same protection that didn’t protect the protected from the unprotected in the first place. Got it.
No, just saying vaccination reduces the chances of infection.
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