A: the NPC's who gladly pay it because "I have a good-paying job."

LMAO.

was gonna give that answer but you already answered it

blind=mown how people can't just buy a toolset from home depot and watch a quick youtube video and do it themselves on a saturday. just fkn lmao at cucks

You don't even need a Saturday on an inline-4... Literally you can do it while finishing your morning coffee.

Same for oil changes. I buy enough oil for 3-4 changes that cost the same as one change at a shop. That doesn't include the price for the filters they try to rip you off by doubling the price that you can get them at autozone or amazon. I also lol at people who pay hundreds of dollars for new brake pads. (Super Ded fkn Srs)

Inb4 internet millionaires "Time>Money I use my time making moar millions while the tradie is changing my spark plugs"

Imagine being "too" rich and busy to get your hands dirty and be a man. If being successful includes not having the time and pleasure to perform basic maintenance tasks at home, I dont want to be "successful". (Super Ded fkn Srs)

The thing is, almost no one is making $500/hr.... and when it comes to spark plugs, shops are LITERALLY charging that much. It's wild. You don't need special tools, you don't need a jack, you don't need fluids, no electrical knowledge.... It's literally 1 hex bolt you take off, take out old plug, put in new, and put back on.

$500/hr = $960k/year....

So if you are making north of a million dollars a year, yes you should pay someone.

What if it snaps?

Then its a more invasive task

Again your forgetting that this reality really has NPC’s who can spawn money

Its 100% true

People txt me the word “yep” instead of yes or yeah or they use !!! To really get the point across in a txt it’s completely irrelevant action to a normal person

I'd say >90% men under 40 barely know what an engine is, let alone a spark plug, let alone diagnosing a simple engine issue.

I agree with OP, it's lame

a npc calling someone else an npc... #BidensMisc

Listen I do almost all my own work on cars but spark plugs can be a pain in the azz. On a lot of v8s you have to remove a lot of the air box ducting to even get to them and those back plugs can be an absolute bitch. I'd rather have to jack the truck up 4 times to do brake pads than have to change spark plugs. Sure the work is a little harder physically but chit can turn into a literal nightmare if a plug breaks. A brake job can go tits up but the worst that can happen is a fukd caliper which really isn't hard or expensive to fix, especially if you've already got the original one off. I live in a no rust area so it's probably different story for rustbelt guys.

To address the original OP, it's not that I can't pay to have this stuff fixed it's that I don't trust quick lube places to touch my car and the mechanics that I do trust keep disappearing. Independent tradies can vanish like a fart in the wind for a hundred different reasons. The guys that work at quick lube places don't know chit. They're either teenagers or felons with no prior experience. Saying all that if they're charging $500 per hour I'll spend my whole weekend doing brake and plug jobs for $300 an hour lol

The people paying just use the "That's why I work so I don't have to do that stuff" line are copers. They would like to be able to do it but their dad failed them. I get it since my dad failed me in that area too but I went out and learned it myself.

To be fair, there are some engines where accessing the plugs is a complete nightmare.

And sometimes even simple jobs spiral out of control. I just did plugs on my Viper. You have direct access to all 10 plugs easy peasy, 15 minutes. Except 2 of the plug boot terminals broke off when removing them. And then I had to wait 2 weeks for replacement wires. And then I had to drain/open the fuel system because the regulator blocked access to the distributor for the wires to attach to.

And god forbid the plug snaps off in the block and there's limited access, or the threads strip out because some engineer decided that 3-4 threads was enough to hold a spark plug in.

I remember seeing a study back in like 2005 that showed 50% of men couldn't even change a tire lol. It's probably 80% now.

I know plenty of grown men who dont even know what to do when they turn the key and the car doesn't start. Just a blank stare.

The issue lies between whether it’s a 4 cylinder or v6

If it’s a v6 then it becomes a lot harder

On a 4banger it would take less than 15 minutes to change out. V6 that 15 minute becomes a 5 hour job

Just lol at you thinking im going to spend a day turning wrenches if i can make double or triple that on a small maintenance job landscaping for 3 hours. Let the grease monkey make his money, ill make mine, plus if the truck is business use, i can write that chit off as an expense. This is chess not checkers boyo.

It doesn't help that engineers have managed to make changing spark plugs way more difficult than it needs to be. I'm a Ford guy but come on Ford you can't make a spark plug stay in a head so after they shoot out on their own you design a spark plug that breaks off and stays in the head. Ford has only been making internal combustion engines for 100+ years......ph4ggots.

I've changed hundreds of spark plugs and not one has ever broken off. Obviously, if you don't know what you are doing, use the wrong tools and rush the job it may happen, but doing a little research beforehand and taking your time is all that's needed, that's it. A gorilla could do it.

Wow had no idea landscapers made over $500/hr.

If you had any idea how hard it was to gap a spark plug, you'd know why









































Not fkn srs.

I wondered why miscers keep mentioning breaking off a spark plug..... wtf are you doing to achieve THAT?

I had no idea mechanics changing spark plugs made 500/hr. More like 120/hr for a shop rate unless its an exotic. I get 150-200/hr on mulch installs. Point is, some things aren't worth your time if you can make more doing something else.

It's easy. Drive a Ford lol

But seriously if they were overtightened by someone changing them before it can happen. Low risk but still

As mentioned earlier itt.

If it’s a 4 cylinder Honda/toyota, I can swap them in like 15 minutes.

Takes a bit longer on my 8 cylinder Lexus. Have to remove air intake, battery, trim, some brackets, etc.

Need to have various extensions and wobble joints to get it done, but still worth it to me since I’m poor.

That's the whole point of my thread.... Things aren't worth your time if you can make more doing something else.... BUT NO ONE IS MAKING $960k LMFAO (that would be $960k after tax, too!). Unless you're the PFIZER CEO, you aren't making that.

The example I saw is for a 4 cylinder HYUNDAI.... dead fukin srs. That isn't exotic or special.... Like at ALL.

I noticed that some mechanics can be real dick heads with their pricing structure

I would do it myself, but there are a few Miscers here who claim it's a "waste of your time" and you should be using the time to "make money"

But they are probably Uber drivers who have an app on their phone and when they want to work they just press a button.

Just do it yourself

To be fair, a lot of dudes who believe they can work on their own vehicles, have absolutely zero business picking up a wrench. Butchery will likely be performed by the youtube university hacks.

Take an automotive course or two, otherwise you may hurt yourself.

Spark plugs are simple, until they're not.

A plumber charging $700 to repair an exposed drain pipe that just fell off from being loose plus a water heater flush/new drain rod.

Crew. I’m YouTube Certified basically, but I still go after almost anything.

You’d be surprised what you can accomplish with a Milwaukee 1/2” impact and an Icon 3/8” long handled ratchet lol