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post 1691288683 10-07-2023, 05:40 PM
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i just found out capitalism is a scam

literally every debate that isn't an old capitalist against a college kid the socalist/communist always wins


i'm part of the scummy capitalist crowd so i can't complain, but it's obviously not the right model.
post 1691289053 10-07-2023, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted By ninetynine8
literally every debate that isn't an old capitalist against a college kid the socalist/communist always wins


i'm part of the scummy capitalist crowd so i can't complain, but it's obviously not the right model.
Give us an example.
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post 1691289183 10-07-2023, 05:47 PM
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Also, do not confuse modern monetary theory with capitalism.
post 1691289313 10-07-2023, 05:50 PM
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Capitalism is great. As long as it is in check.

We're just not really a capitalistic society anymore. We're at a weird corporate fiat class system transition period where it puts on mask that says capitalism.
post 1691289323 10-07-2023, 05:50 PM
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You're a dumbass OP. Capitalism is the GOAT. The screen you're reading this on is the result of capitalism you ungrateful ****.
post 1691289493 10-07-2023, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
Capitalism is great. As long as it is in check.

We're just not really a capitalistic society anymore. We're at a weird corporate fiat class system transition period where it puts on mask that says capitalism.
Yeah, late stage capitalism sucks. Pareto principle requires a rebalancing that does not seem to happen. Now we just print more money.
post 1691289513 10-07-2023, 05:52 PM
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If our overlords deem that the US must be an open borders melting pot (genetic swamp), then I support unforgiving, cut-throat, merciless capitalism.

If the US were an ethno-state with closed borders, then I would support socialism. I would want social safety nets, free college or trade schooling, free healthcare and affordable housing for my fellow countrymen who actually look like me.

In our current state, I look around and I see at most only 60% of the population looks like me.... which means a lot of the people I encounter I wouldn't consider my countrymen and therefore I don't have much concern for them.
Everything I post is satire.
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post 1691289763 10-07-2023, 05:56 PM
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inb4 BernieMccracken
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post 1691290093 10-07-2023, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted By N0stradamus
If our overlords deem that the US must be an open borders melting pot (genetic swamp), then I support unforgiving, cut-throat, merciless capitalism.

If the US were an ethno-state with closed borders, then I would support socialism. I would want social safety nets, free college or trade schooling, free healthcare and affordable housing for my fellow countrymen who actually look like me.

In our current state, I look around and I see at most only 60% of the population looks like me.... which means a lot of the people I encounter I wouldn't consider my countrymen and therefore I don't have much concern for them.
In ethno states the same thing happens. As I was saying in my other thread you get other closely knit groups that work together at the peril of everyone else, so in this case replace Jews/Indians with rich families that network and keep everyone else out, or homosexuals.
post 1691290403 10-07-2023, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted By boomerhumour
You're a dumbass OP. Capitalism is the GOAT. The screen you're reading this on is the result of capitalism you ungrateful ****.
ok boomer
post 1691290513 10-07-2023, 06:11 PM
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Capitalism work excellent with the one caveat that you must have competition. So the major thing that requires government intervention is the prevention on monopolies and of cartels.

What we have today is not free-market capitalism. What we have are monopolies and cartels. Cartels in the guise of investment management companies that own everything.
post 1691290593 10-07-2023, 06:13 PM
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Agreed. Nobody should be allowed to own their own stuff and decide how it's used in order to profit off of it. What a terrible thing. We need oppressive states to tell people what to do with their own property to ensure that incompetent useless commie fаggots don't get too jelly.
post 1691291253 10-07-2023, 06:24 PM
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it's not capitalism if a handful of mega corporations control everything and small businesses are becoming almost unheard of in many places.
"Australia is a bi country" - Samuel Whitcombe Hyde
post 1691291363 10-07-2023, 06:27 PM
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Rentcels ITT
post 1691297373 10-07-2023, 08:12 PM
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saying its not real capitalism is a strawman. Like yea, in theory it isn't. But this is how it plays out in practice. People much smarter than you joining together to change the system to abuse you, because you're worse at playing the game.
post 1691297733 10-07-2023, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted By N0stradamus
If our overlords deem that the US must be an open borders melting pot (genetic swamp), then I support unforgiving, cut-throat, merciless capitalism.

If the US were an ethno-state with closed borders, then I would support socialism. I would want social safety nets, free college or trade schooling, free healthcare and affordable housing for my fellow countrymen who actually look like me.

In our current state, I look around and I see at most only 60% of the population looks like me.... which means a lot of the people I encounter I wouldn't consider my countrymen and therefore I don't have much concern for them.
I don't judge people based on what they look like, only in their character and morals, so I don't really understand your post. I'm genuinely curious, how has your outlook been working out for you so far?
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post 1691297973 10-07-2023, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted By SmithMachineGuy
Capitalism work excellent with the one caveat that you must have competition. So the major thing that requires government intervention is the prevention on monopolies and of cartels.

What we have today is not free-market capitalism. What we have are monopolies and cartels. Cartels in the guise of investment management companies that own everything.
This. Every socialist argues from a point of criticizing our current "capitalism" which is anything but. The government is incredibly involved in pushing on the levers. You know, kind of like in socialism.

So of course their retarded takes sound feasible. It's because they're not actually arguing in good faith.
post 1691301823 10-07-2023, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824
I don't judge people based on what they look like, only in their character and morals, so I don't really understand your post. I'm genuinely curious, how has your outlook been working out for you so far?
I'm not rude or impolite to people who dont look like me, I'm actually quite cordial with everyone... But that doesnt mean I view them as my countrymen, they're US citizens, but not mt countrymen.
Everything I post is satire.
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post 1691302313 10-07-2023, 10:04 PM
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There are two debates which people often mingle together.

The theory of capitalism vs. the theory of communism. This is a pure academic/philosophical question to be discussed primarily by economists.

Capitalism in practice vs. communism in practice <---- This isdifferent from the above debate.
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Originally Posted By ninetynine8
literally every debate that isn't an old capitalist against a college kid the socalist/communist always wins


i'm part of the scummy capitalist crowd so i can't complain, but it's obviously not the right model.
I'll probably get hate for this, but Capitalism in the West operates on the model of "haves" and "have nots". It couldn't function the way it's going today without it.

Hard work is preached and promoted as a way to achieve the "American Dream" but not everyone can "move up". Burger flippers and cashiers are still the backbone, and most working wagies would lost their mind without their fastfood dopamine cope.

Many people are catching on to the scam, but what can be done?
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Communism always leads to mass murder, mass starvation, totalitarian regimes, and genocide. The only tactics those Marxist ph@660ts have when debating is projection and intentionally driving their opponent crazy.
See: Rules for Radicals."That wasn't real communism!"
Mao killed 30 - 60 million of his own people. Stalin starved and executed millions. Pol Pot had his soldiersbeating babies against trees.

Free market capitalism is the best system we've seen, thus far. It has downfalls when it becomes heavily driven by cronyism. It is not perfect, but it doesn't lead to totalitarian thought control and dictators imprisoning and executing all political rivals.

In America, we have social credit by mob rule, and are shifting into communism for the middle and lower classes, and crony capitalism being enjoyed by the wealthiest. It is becoming a sh!thole fast.

The thing with commies, too, theyalwaysturn on each other. It is by far the most cult-like political ideology in history.
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Originally Posted By Ratfish
inb4 BernieMccracken
Lol. you are a tool, but this made me lol
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Originally Posted By Voidgaze
I'll probably get hate for this, but Capitalism in the West operates on the model of "haves" and "have nots". It couldn't function the way it's going today without it.

Hard work is preached and promoted as a way to achieve the "American Dream" but not everyone can "move up". Burger flippers and cashiers are still the backbone, and most working wagies would lost their mind without their fastfood dopamine cope.

Many people are catching on to the scam, but what can be done?
Holy **** this is stupid. Stick to pawning white racists instead
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Originally Posted By Ratfish
inb4 BernieMccracken
I bet you've never even read meinkampf.
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken
There are two debates which people often mingle together.

The theory of capitalism vs. the theory of communism. This is a pure academic/philosophical question to be discussed primarily by economists.

Capitalism in practice vs. communism in practice <---- This isdifferent from the above debate.
checkout Yanis Varoufakis


my question is how can you distinguish between capitalism and industrial revolution first mover advantage?

and then you have the whole thing where countries that don't bow to the US empire get dragged down forever
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Originally Posted By N0stradamus
In our current state, I look around and I see at most only 60% of the population looks like me.... which means a lot of the people I encounter I wouldn't consider my countrymen and therefore I don't have much concern for them.
Thats pretty silly. I'd wager most of the families of brown and black people that don't look like you have been in this country longer than your family has which would make them more American than you (according to your logic of course)
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Originally Posted By Dan_S
This. Every socialist argues from a point of criticizing our current "capitalism" which is anything but. The government is incredibly involved in pushing on the levers. You know, kind of like in socialism.

So of course their retarded takes sound feasible. It's because they're not actually arguing in good faith.
There's really no way to go back to the way things were, so they kinda have a point to criticize "current capitalism" or what has been aptly called "late stage capitalism"

It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone, economists have been predicting our current predicament since the 1970's.
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Originally Posted By ninetynine8
checkout Yanis Varoufakis

my question is how can you distinguish between capitalism and industrial revolution first mover advantage?

and then you have the whole thing where countries that don't bow to the US empire get dragged down forever
I just ordered Techno Feudalism last week. Dangerously based economist, imo. Agree with him especially about growing disconnection between capital and labor.
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Originally Posted By Voidgaze
I'll probably get hate for this, but Capitalism in the West operates on the model of "haves" and "have nots". It couldn't function the way it's going today without it.

Hard work is preached and promoted as a way to achieve the "American Dream" but not everyone can "move up". Burger flippers and cashiers are still the backbone, and most working wagies would lost their mind without their fastfood dopamine cope.

Many people are catching on to the scam, but what can be done?
Burger flippers are or at least should be younger people who are on their first jobs, who will eventually move on to better things. The same applies for all other unskilled low paying jobs.
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Originally Posted By Maestro
There's really no way to go back to the way things were, so they kinda have a point to criticize "current capitalism" or what has been aptly called "late stage capitalism"

It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone, economists have been predicting our current predicament since the 1970's.
Meanwhile, communism:




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