10-07-2023, 05:40 PM
-
#1
- ninetynine8
- Registered User
-
- ninetynine8
- Registered User
- Join Date: Oct 2020
- Posts: 13,219
- Rep Power: 42745
-
-
i just found out capitalism is a scam
literally every debate that isn't an old capitalist against a college kid the socalist/communist always wins
i'm part of the scummy capitalist crowd so i can't complain, but it's obviously not the right model.
i'm part of the scummy capitalist crowd so i can't complain, but it's obviously not the right model.
10-07-2023, 05:45 PM
-
#2
- Godfrd824
- Join Date: Oct 2008
- Location: DevilMayRage's Head, Rent Free
- Posts: 57,296
- Subscribers: 2
- Rep Power: 384170
-
-
Originally Posted By ninetynine8⏩
Give us an example.literally every debate that isn't an old capitalist against a college kid the socalist/communist always wins
i'm part of the scummy capitalist crowd so i can't complain, but it's obviously not the right model.
i'm part of the scummy capitalist crowd so i can't complain, but it's obviously not the right model.
When it comes your time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song and die like a hero going home.
10-07-2023, 05:47 PM
-
#3
- FingerFood
- Registered User
-
- FingerFood
- Registered User
- Join Date: Jun 2020
- Age: 56
- Posts: 1,372
- Rep Power: 8213
-
-
Also, do not confuse modern monetary theory with capitalism.
10-07-2023, 05:50 PM
-
#4
- DeadlyStriker
- Registered User
-
- DeadlyStriker
- Registered User
- Join Date: Jun 2011
- Location: United States
- Posts: 24,113
- Rep Power: 302177
-
-
Capitalism is great. As long as it is in check.
We're just not really a capitalistic society anymore. We're at a weird corporate fiat class system transition period where it puts on mask that says capitalism.
We're just not really a capitalistic society anymore. We're at a weird corporate fiat class system transition period where it puts on mask that says capitalism.
10-07-2023, 05:50 PM
-
#5
- boomerhumour
- Registered User
-
- boomerhumour
- Registered User
- Join Date: Sep 2022
- Age: 56
- Posts: 202
- Rep Power: 1628
-
-
You're a dumbass OP. Capitalism is the GOAT. The screen you're reading this on is the result of capitalism you ungrateful ****.
10-07-2023, 05:52 PM
-
#6
- FingerFood
- Registered User
-
- FingerFood
- Registered User
- Join Date: Jun 2020
- Age: 56
- Posts: 1,372
- Rep Power: 8213
-
-
Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩
Yeah, late stage capitalism sucks. Pareto principle requires a rebalancing that does not seem to happen. Now we just print more money.Capitalism is great. As long as it is in check.
We're just not really a capitalistic society anymore. We're at a weird corporate fiat class system transition period where it puts on mask that says capitalism.
We're just not really a capitalistic society anymore. We're at a weird corporate fiat class system transition period where it puts on mask that says capitalism.
10-07-2023, 05:52 PM
-
#7
- N0stradamus
- The Blackpill Prophet
-
- N0stradamus
- The Blackpill Prophet
- Join Date: Oct 2020
- Posts: 24,839
- Rep Power: 96971
-
-
If our overlords deem that the US must be an open borders melting pot (genetic swamp), then I support unforgiving, cut-throat, merciless capitalism.
If the US were an ethno-state with closed borders, then I would support socialism. I would want social safety nets, free college or trade schooling, free healthcare and affordable housing for my fellow countrymen who actually look like me.
In our current state, I look around and I see at most only 60% of the population looks like me.... which means a lot of the people I encounter I wouldn't consider my countrymen and therefore I don't have much concern for them.
If the US were an ethno-state with closed borders, then I would support socialism. I would want social safety nets, free college or trade schooling, free healthcare and affordable housing for my fellow countrymen who actually look like me.
In our current state, I look around and I see at most only 60% of the population looks like me.... which means a lot of the people I encounter I wouldn't consider my countrymen and therefore I don't have much concern for them.
Everything I post is satire.
Tricknology Grand Master.
10-07-2023, 05:56 PM
-
#8
10-07-2023, 06:03 PM
-
#9
- ninetynine8
- Registered User
-
- ninetynine8
- Registered User
- Join Date: Oct 2020
- Posts: 13,219
- Rep Power: 42745
-
-
Originally Posted By N0stradamus⏩
In ethno states the same thing happens. As I was saying in my other thread you get other closely knit groups that work together at the peril of everyone else, so in this case replace Jews/Indians with rich families that network and keep everyone else out, or homosexuals.If our overlords deem that the US must be an open borders melting pot (genetic swamp), then I support unforgiving, cut-throat, merciless capitalism.
If the US were an ethno-state with closed borders, then I would support socialism. I would want social safety nets, free college or trade schooling, free healthcare and affordable housing for my fellow countrymen who actually look like me.
In our current state, I look around and I see at most only 60% of the population looks like me.... which means a lot of the people I encounter I wouldn't consider my countrymen and therefore I don't have much concern for them.
If the US were an ethno-state with closed borders, then I would support socialism. I would want social safety nets, free college or trade schooling, free healthcare and affordable housing for my fellow countrymen who actually look like me.
In our current state, I look around and I see at most only 60% of the population looks like me.... which means a lot of the people I encounter I wouldn't consider my countrymen and therefore I don't have much concern for them.
10-07-2023, 06:09 PM
-
#10
- ninetynine8
- Registered User
-
- ninetynine8
- Registered User
- Join Date: Oct 2020
- Posts: 13,219
- Rep Power: 42745
-
-
Originally Posted By boomerhumour⏩
ok boomerYou're a dumbass OP. Capitalism is the GOAT. The screen you're reading this on is the result of capitalism you ungrateful ****.
10-07-2023, 06:11 PM
-
#11
- SmithMachineGuy
- Join Date: Sep 2009
- Location: United States
- Posts: 19,759
- Rep Power: 107444
-
-
Capitalism work excellent with the one caveat that you must have competition. So the major thing that requires government intervention is the prevention on monopolies and of cartels.
What we have today is not free-market capitalism. What we have are monopolies and cartels. Cartels in the guise of investment management companies that own everything.
What we have today is not free-market capitalism. What we have are monopolies and cartels. Cartels in the guise of investment management companies that own everything.
10-07-2023, 06:13 PM
-
#12
- yewotm8
- Registered User
-
- yewotm8
- Registered User
- Join Date: Sep 2017
- Age: 56
- Posts: 17,781
- Rep Power: 50628
-
-
Agreed. Nobody should be allowed to own their own stuff and decide how it's used in order to profit off of it. What a terrible thing. We need oppressive states to tell people what to do with their own property to ensure that incompetent useless commie fаggots don't get too jelly.
10-07-2023, 06:24 PM
-
#13
10-07-2023, 06:27 PM
-
#14
- BigDeeps01
- Registered User
-
- BigDeeps01
- Registered User
- Join Date: Sep 2019
- Age: 56
- Posts: 26,735
- Rep Power: 169715
-
-
Rentcels ITT
10-07-2023, 08:12 PM
-
#15
- ninetynine8
- Registered User
-
- ninetynine8
- Registered User
- Join Date: Oct 2020
- Posts: 13,219
- Rep Power: 42745
-
-
saying its not real capitalism is a strawman. Like yea, in theory it isn't. But this is how it plays out in practice. People much smarter than you joining together to change the system to abuse you, because you're worse at playing the game.
10-07-2023, 08:20 PM
-
#16
- Godfrd824
- Join Date: Oct 2008
- Location: DevilMayRage's Head, Rent Free
- Posts: 57,296
- Subscribers: 2
- Rep Power: 384170
-
-
Originally Posted By N0stradamus⏩
I don't judge people based on what they look like, only in their character and morals, so I don't really understand your post. I'm genuinely curious, how has your outlook been working out for you so far?If our overlords deem that the US must be an open borders melting pot (genetic swamp), then I support unforgiving, cut-throat, merciless capitalism.
If the US were an ethno-state with closed borders, then I would support socialism. I would want social safety nets, free college or trade schooling, free healthcare and affordable housing for my fellow countrymen who actually look like me.
In our current state, I look around and I see at most only 60% of the population looks like me.... which means a lot of the people I encounter I wouldn't consider my countrymen and therefore I don't have much concern for them.
If the US were an ethno-state with closed borders, then I would support socialism. I would want social safety nets, free college or trade schooling, free healthcare and affordable housing for my fellow countrymen who actually look like me.
In our current state, I look around and I see at most only 60% of the population looks like me.... which means a lot of the people I encounter I wouldn't consider my countrymen and therefore I don't have much concern for them.
When it comes your time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song and die like a hero going home.
10-07-2023, 08:23 PM
-
#17
- Dan_S
- Registered User
-
- Dan_S
- Registered User
- Join Date: Jan 2009
- Location: California, United States
- Age: 42
- Posts: 12,627
- Rep Power: 85920
-
-
Originally Posted By SmithMachineGuy⏩
This. Every socialist argues from a point of criticizing our current "capitalism" which is anything but. The government is incredibly involved in pushing on the levers. You know, kind of like in socialism.Capitalism work excellent with the one caveat that you must have competition. So the major thing that requires government intervention is the prevention on monopolies and of cartels.
What we have today is not free-market capitalism. What we have are monopolies and cartels. Cartels in the guise of investment management companies that own everything.
What we have today is not free-market capitalism. What we have are monopolies and cartels. Cartels in the guise of investment management companies that own everything.
So of course their retarded takes sound feasible. It's because they're not actually arguing in good faith.
10-07-2023, 09:52 PM
-
#18
- N0stradamus
- The Blackpill Prophet
-
- N0stradamus
- The Blackpill Prophet
- Join Date: Oct 2020
- Posts: 24,839
- Rep Power: 96971
-
-
Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
I'm not rude or impolite to people who dont look like me, I'm actually quite cordial with everyone... But that doesnt mean I view them as my countrymen, they're US citizens, but not mt countrymen.I don't judge people based on what they look like, only in their character and morals, so I don't really understand your post. I'm genuinely curious, how has your outlook been working out for you so far?
Everything I post is satire.
Tricknology Grand Master.
10-07-2023, 10:04 PM
-
#19
- ErnieMccracken
- Join Date: Nov 2013
- Posts: 100,062
- Rep Power: 330290
-
-
There are two debates which people often mingle together.
The theory of capitalism vs. the theory of communism. This is a pure academic/philosophical question to be discussed primarily by economists.
Capitalism in practice vs. communism in practice <---- This isdifferent from the above debate.
The theory of capitalism vs. the theory of communism. This is a pure academic/philosophical question to be discussed primarily by economists.
Capitalism in practice vs. communism in practice <---- This isdifferent from the above debate.
10-07-2023, 10:04 PM
-
#20
- Voidgaze
- Real Azz Misca'
-
- Voidgaze
- Real Azz Misca'
- Join Date: Feb 2018
- Location: Texas, United States
- Posts: 54,578
- Rep Power: 603960
-
-
Originally Posted By ninetynine8⏩
I'll probably get hate for this, but Capitalism in the West operates on the model of "haves" and "have nots". It couldn't function the way it's going today without it.literally every debate that isn't an old capitalist against a college kid the socalist/communist always wins
i'm part of the scummy capitalist crowd so i can't complain, but it's obviously not the right model.
i'm part of the scummy capitalist crowd so i can't complain, but it's obviously not the right model.
Hard work is preached and promoted as a way to achieve the "American Dream" but not everyone can "move up". Burger flippers and cashiers are still the backbone, and most working wagies would lost their mind without their fastfood dopamine cope.
Many people are catching on to the scam, but what can be done?
10-07-2023, 10:13 PM
-
#21
- CrimsonSteel
- Join Date: Oct 2005
- Location: United States
- Posts: 23,808
- Rep Power: 162304
-
-
Communism always leads to mass murder, mass starvation, totalitarian regimes, and genocide. The only tactics those Marxist ph@660ts have when debating is projection and intentionally driving their opponent crazy.
See: Rules for Radicals."That wasn't real communism!"
Mao killed 30 - 60 million of his own people. Stalin starved and executed millions. Pol Pot had his soldiersbeating babies against trees.
Free market capitalism is the best system we've seen, thus far. It has downfalls when it becomes heavily driven by cronyism. It is not perfect, but it doesn't lead to totalitarian thought control and dictators imprisoning and executing all political rivals.
In America, we have social credit by mob rule, and are shifting into communism for the middle and lower classes, and crony capitalism being enjoyed by the wealthiest. It is becoming a sh!thole fast.
The thing with commies, too, theyalwaysturn on each other. It is by far the most cult-like political ideology in history.
See: Rules for Radicals."That wasn't real communism!"
Mao killed 30 - 60 million of his own people. Stalin starved and executed millions. Pol Pot had his soldiersbeating babies against trees.
Free market capitalism is the best system we've seen, thus far. It has downfalls when it becomes heavily driven by cronyism. It is not perfect, but it doesn't lead to totalitarian thought control and dictators imprisoning and executing all political rivals.
In America, we have social credit by mob rule, and are shifting into communism for the middle and lower classes, and crony capitalism being enjoyed by the wealthiest. It is becoming a sh!thole fast.
The thing with commies, too, theyalwaysturn on each other. It is by far the most cult-like political ideology in history.
10-08-2023, 12:51 AM
-
#22
10-08-2023, 12:52 AM
-
#23
- 129iq
- Registered User
-
- 129iq
- Registered User
- Join Date: Jan 2023
- Age: 56
- Posts: 12,061
- Rep Power: 11617
-
-
Originally Posted By Voidgaze⏩
Holy **** this is stupid. Stick to pawning white racists insteadI'll probably get hate for this, but Capitalism in the West operates on the model of "haves" and "have nots". It couldn't function the way it's going today without it.
Hard work is preached and promoted as a way to achieve the "American Dream" but not everyone can "move up". Burger flippers and cashiers are still the backbone, and most working wagies would lost their mind without their fastfood dopamine cope.
Many people are catching on to the scam, but what can be done?
Hard work is preached and promoted as a way to achieve the "American Dream" but not everyone can "move up". Burger flippers and cashiers are still the backbone, and most working wagies would lost their mind without their fastfood dopamine cope.
Many people are catching on to the scam, but what can be done?
10-08-2023, 01:04 AM
-
#24
- ErnieMccracken
- Join Date: Nov 2013
- Posts: 100,062
- Rep Power: 330290
-
-
Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
I bet you've never even read meinkampf.inb4 BernieMccracken
10-08-2023, 01:05 AM
-
#25
- ninetynine8
- Registered User
-
- ninetynine8
- Registered User
- Join Date: Oct 2020
- Posts: 13,219
- Rep Power: 42745
-
-
Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
checkout Yanis VaroufakisThere are two debates which people often mingle together.
The theory of capitalism vs. the theory of communism. This is a pure academic/philosophical question to be discussed primarily by economists.
Capitalism in practice vs. communism in practice <---- This isdifferent from the above debate.
The theory of capitalism vs. the theory of communism. This is a pure academic/philosophical question to be discussed primarily by economists.
Capitalism in practice vs. communism in practice <---- This isdifferent from the above debate.
my question is how can you distinguish between capitalism and industrial revolution first mover advantage?
and then you have the whole thing where countries that don't bow to the US empire get dragged down forever
10-08-2023, 01:08 AM
-
#26
- Maestro
- отличнo!
-
- Maestro
- отличнo!
- Join Date: Oct 2002
- Location: New Mexico, United States
- Posts: 58,400
- Rep Power: 203698
-
-
Originally Posted By N0stradamus⏩
Thats pretty silly. I'd wager most of the families of brown and black people that don't look like you have been in this country longer than your family has which would make them more American than you (according to your logic of course)In our current state, I look around and I see at most only 60% of the population looks like me.... which means a lot of the people I encounter I wouldn't consider my countrymen and therefore I don't have much concern for them.
10-08-2023, 01:15 AM
-
#27
- Maestro
- отличнo!
-
- Maestro
- отличнo!
- Join Date: Oct 2002
- Location: New Mexico, United States
- Posts: 58,400
- Rep Power: 203698
-
-
Originally Posted By Dan_S⏩
There's really no way to go back to the way things were, so they kinda have a point to criticize "current capitalism" or what has been aptly called "late stage capitalism"This. Every socialist argues from a point of criticizing our current "capitalism" which is anything but. The government is incredibly involved in pushing on the levers. You know, kind of like in socialism.
So of course their retarded takes sound feasible. It's because they're not actually arguing in good faith.
So of course their retarded takes sound feasible. It's because they're not actually arguing in good faith.
It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone, economists have been predicting our current predicament since the 1970's.
10-08-2023, 01:27 AM
-
#28
- ErnieMccracken
- Join Date: Nov 2013
- Posts: 100,062
- Rep Power: 330290
-
-
Originally Posted By ninetynine8⏩
I just ordered Techno Feudalism last week. Dangerously based economist, imo. Agree with him especially about growing disconnection between capital and labor.checkout Yanis Varoufakis
my question is how can you distinguish between capitalism and industrial revolution first mover advantage?
and then you have the whole thing where countries that don't bow to the US empire get dragged down forever
my question is how can you distinguish between capitalism and industrial revolution first mover advantage?
and then you have the whole thing where countries that don't bow to the US empire get dragged down forever
10-08-2023, 10:28 AM
-
#29
- Godfrd824
- Join Date: Oct 2008
- Location: DevilMayRage's Head, Rent Free
- Posts: 57,296
- Subscribers: 2
- Rep Power: 384170
-
-
Originally Posted By Voidgaze⏩
Burger flippers are or at least should be younger people who are on their first jobs, who will eventually move on to better things. The same applies for all other unskilled low paying jobs.I'll probably get hate for this, but Capitalism in the West operates on the model of "haves" and "have nots". It couldn't function the way it's going today without it.
Hard work is preached and promoted as a way to achieve the "American Dream" but not everyone can "move up". Burger flippers and cashiers are still the backbone, and most working wagies would lost their mind without their fastfood dopamine cope.
Many people are catching on to the scam, but what can be done?
Hard work is preached and promoted as a way to achieve the "American Dream" but not everyone can "move up". Burger flippers and cashiers are still the backbone, and most working wagies would lost their mind without their fastfood dopamine cope.
Many people are catching on to the scam, but what can be done?
When it comes your time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song and die like a hero going home.
10-08-2023, 11:00 AM
-
#30
- CrimsonSteel
- Join Date: Oct 2005
- Location: United States
- Posts: 23,808
- Rep Power: 162304
-
-
Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
Meanwhile, communism:There's really no way to go back to the way things were, so they kinda have a point to criticize "current capitalism" or what has been aptly called "late stage capitalism"
It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone, economists have been predicting our current predicament since the 1970's.
It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone, economists have been predicting our current predicament since the 1970's.


Bookmarks
-
- Digg
-
- del.icio.us
-

- StumbleUpon
-
-
Posting Permissions
- You may not post new threads
- You may not post replies
- You may not post attachments
- You may not edit your posts