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Macron calls for ‘ruthless’ approach to extremism- find and deport them all
Macron calls for ‘ruthless’ approach to extremism in wake of Arras attack
French secondary schools held a minute’s silence on Monday after a teacher was killed by a former pupil in what the government called an Islamist terror attack, prompting Emmanuel Macron to call for a “ruthless” approach towards extremists.
France has been placed on its highest level of security alert after a 20-year-old terrorist suspect who had been under surveillance walked into his old high school in Arras, northern France, on Friday and stabbed to death a French teacher, Dominique Bernard, and injured three others. The 57-year-old teacher died from several wounds to the neck.
The attack – which happened almost exactly three years after Samuel Paty, a 47-year-old history and geography teacher, was killed by an 18-year-old Chechen man outside his school near Paris – has triggered a massive security response and questions from teachers over whether schools in France are safe.
At 2pm, all schools across France observed a minute’s silence.
The Gambetta-Carnot high school in Arras, where the attack happened, was evacuated on Monday morning after a bomb alert. Police explosive experts arrived at the site as teachers and students were given psychological support before being allowed back into the building.
The 20-year-old suspect, who was arrested at the scene, remained in police custody on Monday, and French media reported that he was not answering investigators’ questions. Police named him as Mohammed Moguchkov, who was born in Russia’s predominantly Muslim North Caucasus republic of Ingushetia and reportedly arrived in France at the age of five. He was on a French national register as a potential security threat and under electronic and physical surveillance by France’s domestic intelligence agency, the DGSI. His father, who was also on the list, was deported in 2018.
Macron said he wanted his ministers “to embody a ruthless state towards all those who harbour hate and terrorist ideologies”, a senior aide told reporters. The president has called on police to comb through their files of radicalised people who could be deported from France to make sure no one has been overlooked.
Macron had told his interior minister to take a “special approach to young men between the ages of 16 and 25 from the Caucasus”, AFP reported.
The killing of a teacher inside a school has increased nervousness over security in France, which has large Muslim and Jewish populations and has been on the alert for violence since the attacks on Israel on 7 October. The prime minister, Élisabeth Borne, said on Monday: “We will not allow terrorism to bring our country to a standstill”.
Borne told La Tribune Dimanche this weekend that, although the investigation into the school killing was ongoing, “the attack against Israel could have been a trigger element”. The interior minister, Gérald Darmanin, said there was “an atmosphere of jihadism” in France since the Hamas attack on Israel and the ensuing bombardment of Gaza.
At the weekend, the Louvre museum, the palace of Versailles and the Gare de Lyon station in Paris were evacuated after a series of bomb alerts, but Darmanin said there had been no genuine threat.
France has increased security around schools and Jewish sites, increasing the number of troops on patrol to 7,000.
In a post on X, formerly Twitter, Macron said French schools would remain a “bulwark” against extremism and “a sanctuary for our pupils and everyone who works there”.
With two hours of morning lessons across all French secondary schools cancelled on Monday in order for teachers to discuss how to deal with the attack and increased threat, some teachers’ representatives said the opposite was happening.
Iannis Roder, a history and geography teacher in a middle school in Seine-Saint-Denis, told France Inter radio he felt schools were no longer a sanctuary and in fact were a “target”.
The Arras attack has also sparked a fresh row over immigration before the government’s new bill on the issue, scheduled for the new year. There had been criticism from figures on the right who are against allowing a regularisation process for some migrants without residence permits working in specific jobs. The focus of debate is on increasing means to expel more people. Jordan Bardella, of Marine Le Pen’s far-right National Rally party, said the Arras attacker’s family “should not have been on French territory”.
The head of the lower house of parliament, Yaël Braun-Pivet, who belongs to Macron’s centrist Renaissance party, said on Monday that a draft immigration law should be sped up and voted through by the end of the year.
She said the bill would provide that “people who are not integrated, who are radicalised, who swear ferocious hatred against the (French) republic … must indeed be able to be removed”, she told the public broadcaster France 2.
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/20...f-arras-attackFrench secondary schools held a minute’s silence on Monday after a teacher was killed by a former pupil in what the government called an Islamist terror attack, prompting Emmanuel Macron to call for a “ruthless” approach towards extremists.
France has been placed on its highest level of security alert after a 20-year-old terrorist suspect who had been under surveillance walked into his old high school in Arras, northern France, on Friday and stabbed to death a French teacher, Dominique Bernard, and injured three others. The 57-year-old teacher died from several wounds to the neck.
The attack – which happened almost exactly three years after Samuel Paty, a 47-year-old history and geography teacher, was killed by an 18-year-old Chechen man outside his school near Paris – has triggered a massive security response and questions from teachers over whether schools in France are safe.
At 2pm, all schools across France observed a minute’s silence.
The Gambetta-Carnot high school in Arras, where the attack happened, was evacuated on Monday morning after a bomb alert. Police explosive experts arrived at the site as teachers and students were given psychological support before being allowed back into the building.
The 20-year-old suspect, who was arrested at the scene, remained in police custody on Monday, and French media reported that he was not answering investigators’ questions. Police named him as Mohammed Moguchkov, who was born in Russia’s predominantly Muslim North Caucasus republic of Ingushetia and reportedly arrived in France at the age of five. He was on a French national register as a potential security threat and under electronic and physical surveillance by France’s domestic intelligence agency, the DGSI. His father, who was also on the list, was deported in 2018.
Macron said he wanted his ministers “to embody a ruthless state towards all those who harbour hate and terrorist ideologies”, a senior aide told reporters. The president has called on police to comb through their files of radicalised people who could be deported from France to make sure no one has been overlooked.
Macron had told his interior minister to take a “special approach to young men between the ages of 16 and 25 from the Caucasus”, AFP reported.
The killing of a teacher inside a school has increased nervousness over security in France, which has large Muslim and Jewish populations and has been on the alert for violence since the attacks on Israel on 7 October. The prime minister, Élisabeth Borne, said on Monday: “We will not allow terrorism to bring our country to a standstill”.
Borne told La Tribune Dimanche this weekend that, although the investigation into the school killing was ongoing, “the attack against Israel could have been a trigger element”. The interior minister, Gérald Darmanin, said there was “an atmosphere of jihadism” in France since the Hamas attack on Israel and the ensuing bombardment of Gaza.
At the weekend, the Louvre museum, the palace of Versailles and the Gare de Lyon station in Paris were evacuated after a series of bomb alerts, but Darmanin said there had been no genuine threat.
France has increased security around schools and Jewish sites, increasing the number of troops on patrol to 7,000.
In a post on X, formerly Twitter, Macron said French schools would remain a “bulwark” against extremism and “a sanctuary for our pupils and everyone who works there”.
With two hours of morning lessons across all French secondary schools cancelled on Monday in order for teachers to discuss how to deal with the attack and increased threat, some teachers’ representatives said the opposite was happening.
Iannis Roder, a history and geography teacher in a middle school in Seine-Saint-Denis, told France Inter radio he felt schools were no longer a sanctuary and in fact were a “target”.
The Arras attack has also sparked a fresh row over immigration before the government’s new bill on the issue, scheduled for the new year. There had been criticism from figures on the right who are against allowing a regularisation process for some migrants without residence permits working in specific jobs. The focus of debate is on increasing means to expel more people. Jordan Bardella, of Marine Le Pen’s far-right National Rally party, said the Arras attacker’s family “should not have been on French territory”.
The head of the lower house of parliament, Yaël Braun-Pivet, who belongs to Macron’s centrist Renaissance party, said on Monday that a draft immigration law should be sped up and voted through by the end of the year.
She said the bill would provide that “people who are not integrated, who are radicalised, who swear ferocious hatred against the (French) republic … must indeed be able to be removed”, she told the public broadcaster France 2.
Imagine if Trump said that....
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France will be a muslim country soon. This jewish puppet is just trying to make the pensioners happy.
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Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
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Imagine if Trump said that....
Imagine if Trump said that....
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Originally Posted By JayJ350⏩
More like a result of France's colonialism.Funny how this is the inevitable result of far leftism running wild in western society.
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
No, because France didn't have to give citizenship to the populations of their colonies.More like a result of France's colonialism.
Saying that, it's not leftism either because they only did this to create an underclass to undercut wages for people in manual labour jobs lol.
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
No wonder Paris And London are such ****holes.France will be a muslim country soon. This jewish puppet is just trying to make the pensioners happy.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
London???No wonder Paris And London are such ****holes.
Most of England. There’s a reason they call Bradford Bradistan. Immigration from 3rd world shi tholes has ruined the country
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Originally Posted By freeheeler⏩
Damn, thought it was just London.London???
Most of England. There’s a reason they call Bradford Bradistan. Immigration from 3rd world shi tholes has ruined the country
Most of England. There’s a reason they call Bradford Bradistan. Immigration from 3rd world shi tholes has ruined the country
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
Honestly this^^^France will be a muslim country soon. This jewish puppet is just trying to make the pensioners happy.
Plus, when you have large voting blocks based win ethnicity, etc, you dont need to be a huge % of the population to tip elections in your favor. You just ride that white leftist vote, which brings in more of you, increasing your electoral power and when you dont need those white leftists to win elections....you...replacethem.
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What's to prevent Macron from rounding up political dissidents under the veil of removing extremism?
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Came in expecting it to be white supremacist extremism he would be talking about. Bet though not many if any will actually be deported unless they have done something really bad.
Honestly, if Europe wants to prevent Hitler 2.0 they better start doing something before people snap. Might be a lot of these migrants but they are still a small minority that are packed into population centers and they are otherwise weak and stupid and unable to actually do much if push came to shove. If you look at history you'll see that corrupt governments that oppress their people often get away with more and more, and nothing happens so they just keep pushing and keep getting away with it and finally they push a bit too hard and are too confident and it just all comes at once. This time, Germany won't have to conquer Europe, they already own the EU.
Honestly, if Europe wants to prevent Hitler 2.0 they better start doing something before people snap. Might be a lot of these migrants but they are still a small minority that are packed into population centers and they are otherwise weak and stupid and unable to actually do much if push came to shove. If you look at history you'll see that corrupt governments that oppress their people often get away with more and more, and nothing happens so they just keep pushing and keep getting away with it and finally they push a bit too hard and are too confident and it just all comes at once. This time, Germany won't have to conquer Europe, they already own the EU.
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Originally Posted By freeheeler⏩
US: 58% whiteLondon???
Most of England. There’s a reason they call Bradford Bradistan. Immigration from 3rd world shi tholes has ruined the country
Most of England. There’s a reason they call Bradford Bradistan. Immigration from 3rd world shi tholes has ruined the country
UK: 82% white
Re OP, the european court of human rights will stop Macron deporting them.
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
Yup. All that priceless catholic art/history/ architecture etc the frechies love so much soon to be going up in flames.France will be a muslim country soon.
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Imagine these retards letting people in from destabilized 3rd world countries thinking that it was going to change the country into ... what? An even better 1st world country? You're not even filtering good/bad here, you're just letting every one in. They should lynch their own leaders first.
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Originally Posted By DuracellBunny⏩
Those % are much lower for those under 20(future of America) for example, about half of America under 20 is white. That was before Biden added 10+ million.US: 58% white
UK: 82% white
Re OP, the european court of human rights will stop Macron deporting them.
UK: 82% white
Re OP, the european court of human rights will stop Macron deporting them.
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Macron said he wanted his ministers “to embody a ruthless state towards all those who harbour hate and terrorist ideologies”,a senior aide told reporters.The president has called on police to comb through their files of radicalised people who could be deported from France to make sure no one has been overlooked.
That's the sort of rhetoric that really gives you a warm tingly feeling.The road to hell is paved in good intentions, and in this case it can just as easily be giving off the perception of good intentions, capitalizing on a time of divisive passion.
But the current #1 problem? Bothering to vet who they took in was their responsibilitybeforethey let in waves of possible criminals, rapists, murderers, and all around human time bombs.
The very leaders stomping around over how they're going to clean up the trashlet all of it into their countries in the first place. This has been brewing for years and years, but only now when things have reached a tipping point do these same leaders want to quash any dissonance, even though it'stheirheads that should be on pikes alongside the rapists and murders they allowed to ravage their own people.
Originally Posted By PaulJerome⏩
This is how it begins, and therein lies the dilemma.What's to prevent Macron from rounding up political dissidents under the veil of removing extremism?
Everyone with eyes knows who the problem people aretoday, but that also makes for an easy excuse to set a dangerous precedent for tomorrow.
Today it's aloha snackbar, but tomorrow it is anything that goes against the current leaders in power.
The cynic in me has to wonder if this was planned: import radicals who are incompatible with a society and culture, demoralize the populace knowing full well that they brought in human powder kegs, and simply wait for the inevitable spark that sets the whole thing off. Citizens are so swept away with rage that they unwittingly throw away their own rights in the process.
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Originally Posted By Retoaded⏩
"we have to let them in first to see if they're radical inside!"or ya know...ya just don't let em in the first place. crazy idea, I know.
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All they have to do is say that they are gay/trans and would be persecuted if sent back to their country of origin. At that point, the European court of human rights will overrule France and they will be allowed to stay.
It's all bluster. Even though the powers of the office of the French president surpass those of any other western leader, deporting them against the ECHR's wishes is not within his gift.
It's all bluster. Even though the powers of the office of the French president surpass those of any other western leader, deporting them against the ECHR's wishes is not within his gift.
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Originally Posted By DuracellBunny⏩
They'll screw anything with a hole in it, so they already have enough LGTBPTQA++~ letters covered.All they have to do is say that they are gay/trans and would be persecuted if sent back to their country of origin. At that point, the European court of human rights will overrule France and they will be allowed to stay.
It's all bluster. Even though the powers of the office of the French president surpass those of any other western leader, deporting them against the ECHR's wishes is not within his gift.
It's all bluster. Even though the powers of the office of the French president surpass those of any other western leader, deporting them against the ECHR's wishes is not within his gift.
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