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Thread: **OFFICIAL** Trading and Investing Thread: Part XVI -- BAG HOLDING EDITION

post 1693033163 11-08-2023, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
Long treasury yields have come in HARD sweet jesus
Yeah glad I never had the chance to sell calls against the tlt I picked up. I still probably will sell short dated $90 instead of the longer dated $90 I was looking at. Nearly same premium now though for December

The $80 CSP I sold is about 50% profit. Unsure if I will cover so I can do something else or maybe wait till closer to 70% gain.
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post 1693033513 11-08-2023, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
This thread dead as fuk.
Steady DCA investing isn't always sexy, but the account balance growing over time sure is. If I was trading individual stocks on a regular basis, I'd post more for sure.
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post 1693034883 11-08-2023, 10:05 AM
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Thoughts on MSFT???

Who thinks they've topped out? Or still room for more upside short term?

Been in it for a while and I've liquidated about 80% of my position...Really close to selling the rest
Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Transitioned (no lgbtq) to Schwab today from Ameritrade. This fukkin sucks.
The mobile app is terrible so fortunately think or swim works. However the simplicity of Ameritrade was just too good.
Thinking of moving to another brokerage, anyone have suggestions for something as simple as Ameritrade?
Even think or swim is too cluttered and is missing things, for example I can't view the total profit from my covered call in case I want to close it early.
Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
This thread dead as fuk.
Schwab app is dog chit. They domt show the amount of wash sale for unrealized gains. How am I supposed to tax loss harvest?
Schwab still my favorite but I use the computer to trade mostly, I did notice their app is pretty bad now somehow it used to be better

You can always call schwab and get someone on the phone within 2 mins or less, this is the #1 reason I use them still
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post 1693036773 11-08-2023, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted By 2020Wellness⏩
Steady DCA investing isn't always sexy, but the account balance growing over time sure is. If I was trading individual stocks on a regular basis, I'd post more for sure.
I’ve come to terms I don’t understand this market or how most individual companies trade. I’ve got a few positions I haven’t moved, but everything new being added has primarily gone into bonds. Since the 20+ yields are below 5% I’ll hold off or keep adding to SGOV till they pop back.

Only thing other than selling options I’ve consistently done is buying fnma which I’ve added small amounts weekly to start a common share position.
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post 1693039033 11-08-2023, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Well today I learned I can deduct all my capital losses from previous years towards future years.. so if I lost $100k last year and made $100k this year, I would pay no taxes this year. Previously thought I could only deduct $3000 at a time but that limit is for earned income, not stocks. Fortunately had losses only last year, enoigh to where tax loss harvesting this year is pointless. Fuark
Fortunately had losses last year… LOL. Yeah losses carry over, but you can’t deduct more than a net -$3,000 from overall income from investments. So if you carried -$100k losses from last year and made $105k this year you could use all and only pay $5k in gains. But if you only made 95k then you could deduct $98k and roll the other 2k in losses for 2024
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post 1693041333 11-08-2023, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
I’ve come to terms I don’t understand this market or how most individual companies trade. I’ve got a few positions I haven’t moved, but everything new being added has primarily gone into bonds. Since the 20+ yields are below 5% I’ll hold off or keep adding to SGOV till they pop back.

Only thing other than selling options I’ve consistently done is buying fnma which I’ve added small amounts weekly to start a common share position.
Yeah company fundamentals and fair value relative to those fundamentals are the only truth, then its strategy and mindset because nobody has any idea what stock prices might do.

Hence why I was taking shots at dude back in July spouting off about buying PayPal at a price 25% higher than it is today, not because I have any clue whether it will go up or down but because the strategy is fundamentally flawed and more akin to gambling than investing. Making moves is pretty easy, sitting still is what’s difficult.
post 1693042333 11-08-2023, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
Yeah company fundamentals and fair value relative to those fundamentals are the only truth, then its strategy and mindset because nobody has any idea what stock prices might do.

Hence why I was taking shots at dude back in July spouting off about buying PayPal at a price 25% higher than it is today, not because I have any clue whether it will go up or down but because the strategy is fundamentally flawed and more akin to gambling than investing. Making moves is pretty easy, sitting still is what’s difficult.
Yeah. I mean I can’t believe my individual holdings all got shat on in the past couple weeks which is annoying. Egy announced they’ve got $100m in the bank with 18m in receivables and they got dumpstered on earnings pushing market cap to nearly $400m. Payo and sofi both posted solid numbers and raised guidance and both again got hammered. I understand sofi isn’t yet profitable(q4 hopefully) but Payo too went ahead and went red too. It’s not even that my specific holdings are red but other than tlt EVERYTHING on my watchlist is red. And yet markets are just barely down overall. I realize this when you should buy and I did buy some long dated EGY calls and might execute my $4 CSP in January depending on what it looks like but how silly.

Also, I did go ahead and sell 2 TLT CCs at $91 for $1.50 for Dec. This covers roughly half the position and if it gets close to ITM I’ll cover the other half. I’m good either way. I’m pretty surprised I’m green on this position already but adding more as it dropped really helped when I started buying at $93
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post 1693073043 11-09-2023, 12:57 AM
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post 1693089543 11-09-2023, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
RIP soficels. Stonk just can't get a break, glad I sold that earlier this year
No kidding. But still undervalued and a good holding long term. Their financials just keep getting better and better every single quarter.
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post 1693092823 11-09-2023, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
RIP soficels. Stonk just can't get a break, glad I sold that earlier this year
Still holding roughly 2000 shares. It’s fine. Thankfully I covered my CSP. I’ll write some $6 here shortly I imagine. They keep boosting revs and diversifying away from student loans while getting closer and closer to profitability. I see a lot of opportunity for growth in profitability and a lack of overhang from bond performance that plagues their competitors.

Small caps generally are getting hammered for whatever reason.
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post 1693118623 11-09-2023, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Why do some tickers have such huge moves for earnings AH but others barely budge? Is it basically marketmakers attempting to crush options holders where there are higher volumes of option order flow as opposed to tickers where there's barely any interest?
Low liquidity, low volume, just take a look at the order book, usually huge spread on bid/ask some noobs do market orders after hours and get rekt it’s hilarious
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post 1693161233 11-10-2023, 03:23 PM
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Sht will hit the fan on Monday?



Moody’s cuts U.S. outlook to negative,citing deficits and political polarization

Moody’s Investors Service lowered its ratings outlook on the United States’ government to negative from stable, pointing to rising risks to the nation’s fiscal strength.

The ratings agency has affirmed the long-term issuer and senior unsecured ratings of the U.S. at Aaa.

Moody’s move to cut its outlook arrives as Congress faces the looming threat of a government shutdown once more. The government is funded through next Friday.

Newly elected House Speaker Mike Johnson said he plans to release a Republican government funding plan on Saturday.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/10/mood...-deficits.html
post 1693162093 11-10-2023, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted By greenleaf⏩
Sht will hit the fan on Monday?
Moody’s cuts U.S. outlook to negative,citing deficits and political polarization

Moody’s Investors Service lowered its ratings outlook on the United States’ government to negative from stable, pointing to rising risks to the nation’s fiscal strength.

The ratings agency has affirmed the long-term issuer and senior unsecured ratings of the U.S. at Aaa.

Moody’s move to cut its outlook arrives as Congress faces the looming threat of a government shutdown once more. The government is funded through next Friday.

Newly elected House Speaker Mike Johnson said he plans to release a Republican government funding plan on Saturday.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/10/mood...-deficits.html
Does the word of moodys even mean anything anymore?
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post 1693164413 11-10-2023, 04:31 PM
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Got absolutely ****ing destroyed today. Kill me
post 1693184193 11-11-2023, 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
Does the word of moodys even mean anything anymore?
Bond pricing?
post 1693191483 11-11-2023, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted By greenleaf⏩
Sht will hit the fan on Monday?



Moody’s cuts U.S. outlook to negative,citing deficits and political polarization

Moody’s Investors Service lowered its ratings outlook on the United States’ government to negative from stable, pointing to rising risks to the nation’s fiscal strength.

The ratings agency has affirmed the long-term issuer and senior unsecured ratings of the U.S. at Aaa.

Moody’s move to cut its outlook arrives as Congress faces the looming threat of a government shutdown once more. The government is funded through next Friday.

Newly elected House Speaker Mike Johnson said he plans to release a Republican government funding plan on Saturday.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/10/mood...-deficits.html
Thanks Biden
post 1693350453 11-14-2023, 08:19 AM
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Checked my tech stocks this morning.





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post 1693351963 11-14-2023, 08:49 AM
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post 1693356443 11-14-2023, 10:12 AM
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Haven't checked my portfolio in a while, and got damn NVDA has been good to me.

My small cap isn't doing so well. I imagine that's due to interest rates more than anything?
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post 1693411793 11-15-2023, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
ZIM about to become a penny stock on Wednesday if their earnings suck. Just LOL how could this turd stink this badly
Aren’t they based out of Israel which is currently at war?
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post 1693451613 11-16-2023, 05:45 AM
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Thinking of selling PTLR at $20


thoughts?
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My TGT accumulation is looking great
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post 1693453813 11-16-2023, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted By 2020Wellness⏩
My TGT accumulation is looking great
Oh hell yeah!
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question for all the TA guys. do you draw lines when looking at your own trades? Or can you eyeball the chart and know the levels without using lines?

I know people show the lines on social media but that is used to show other people the levels.
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Originally Posted By plebmaximus⏩
Thinking of selling PTLR at $20


thoughts?
Sold half my shares, used that money to buy 18.5$ puts and used the rest of my shares for 21$ covered calls, momentum might carry PLTR to 25$ but eventually it will be back to 15-17$
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
cmon breh we're printing $100billion for israel you think zim didn't get a slice of that

on another note, thinkorswim app also sucks ass. bought a TSLA put today and had a stop loss, the app gave me some bs saying that sometimes orders can't be filled so they use limit orders. stop loss executed $5 lower than it was supposed to. this never happened on TDA app.

schwab sucks, etrade sucks, not quite sure where to move.
Is now the time to say I told you so on ZIM?Srsly though, GL. I think it will hit 6.50.

Re: stop loss. You should know that your order is filled as 'market order' when your stop loss is hit. Not the same as stop limit which is filled at your limit price (but not guaranteed to fill). So if liquidity is low or spread is wide, or when price action moves but contract price stagnates your contract will not fill at the best price.
post 1693569393 11-18-2023, 01:13 PM
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Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac just got their interest decided for damages which is awesome. Fannie pref holders getting like $280m + almost 200m in interest. I’m sure it’ll be appealed for awhile and lawyers will ofc take their cut, but it looks like the payment will come out to be about the same as a dividend payment which is roughly 1.5% of face value. I bought around 5-6% face value so I’m hoping I’ll get about 25-30% of purchase price back ayy lmfao.

Not much progress in the way of getting them out from their conservatorship though. Sounds like there might be more coming on that around 12/7 there is some public announcements being made in regards to capital rules which could mean they’ll lower the threshold for tier1 capital requirements so they are not that of a bank. If that is the case both will be candidates for release far sooner than later as that is the primary roadblock is figuring out how to get them fully recapitalized before being released.
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post 1693571283 11-18-2023, 01:59 PM
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popped up on YT today. gonna watch.

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post 1693579283 11-18-2023, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted By friesbruh⏩
popped up on YT today. gonna watch.

Lol. Anyone can be a verified 8 figure trader if they buy/sell $50,000 of any ticker once a day when markets are open
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post 1693594633 11-19-2023, 04:08 AM
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Are we gonna get a fukking pullback Monday before NVDA earnings sends this scam into the stratusphere AH Tuesday or what?
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