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Thread: Yall Say Kinobody Ain't Natty?

post 1693478153 11-16-2023, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted By monster0ultra⏩
I'm like 99% sure he ain't natty.

He spends all of his time drinking and partying and when he feels like working, he tries to be a digital marketer. Where's the leftover time and energy to train hard?

He also tries to pass himself off as self made when his dad was literally one of the richest Canadians. He also plagiarized his entire training and diet plan from Martin Berkhan. I'm not even talking copying the ideas, he literally took entire sections word for word, then added his own custom flair (removing all the leg training), this sounds like a joke but is literally what he did. If he's that bold faced of a liar in general, why wouldn't he lie about gear use too?

The only major YouTube celery that's actually natty is that Alpha Destiny guy. He's extremely dedicated to his training, that's why his content has such low production value, all of his effort is spent on training. And he's a turbomanlet, that's why he still looks jacked despite being natty.
Alpha destiny is amazing, I respect that guy.

Kinobody is definitely a hustler but you gotta play the game, people steal business ideas everyday and make money, it’s a dog eat dog world. And you can still live a party lifestyle and maintain a good physique, Gary ridgeway is an alcoholic and is still strong/jacked
post 1693479293 11-16-2023, 04:03 PM
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Not to say he couldn't be...

However, if you can afford TRT. Your business depends on you having a physique that people admire. Odds are you will take TRT.
post 1693480353 11-16-2023, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted By SelenasAss⏩
That's what I'm sayin, he's been training for 20 years

i think he looked best in 2016 here tho'

08:50

He's absolutely on roids here. In the vid in the OP he's not on roids anymore but in this vid he was 1000000% not natty.
post 1693481553 11-16-2023, 05:03 PM
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People think that's unachievable natty?
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post 1693481663 11-16-2023, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted By LargePeter⏩
People think that's unachievable natty?
It works like this. Miscers think anyone with a better physique than theirs must be on gear.
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post 1693481863 11-16-2023, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted By PaulJerome⏩
It works like this. Miscers think anyone with a better physique than theirs must be on gear.
Monster0ultra makes some good points in post 29. If he's a known liar and fraud why wouldn't he take gear and lie about it?
post 1693483093 11-16-2023, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted By SelenasAss⏩
And his strength hasnt changed much either. Me and kino are the last natty warrirors in this game
And even if he's not natural, cuz who can actually say for sure, the physique he has is 100% attainable naturally. Lifting for 10-15 years + and you don't think you could be 180 pounds at a low bodyfat %?
post 1693483323 11-16-2023, 05:57 PM
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He’s frauding. He’s not taking a metric **** ton of gear, but he’s definitely messing with TRT.
post 1693483573 11-16-2023, 06:05 PM
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Who knows. He doesn't look freaky but there is a LOT of incentive to be not natty as a lifting influencer. I think he could be natty but also trt goes a long way when you stay that lean.
post 1693483973 11-16-2023, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted By bsrkoacar2⏩
Who knows. He doesn't look freaky but there is a LOT of incentive to be not natty as a lifting influencer. I think he could be natty but also trt goes a long way when you stay that lean.
I mean he could be concerned about his health which is a good enough deterrent against TRT lol
post 1693484073 11-16-2023, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
I mean he could be concerned about his health which is a good enough deterrent against TRT lol
Trt is low risk high reward when your income depends on your image.
post 1693484243 11-16-2023, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted By monster0ultra⏩
I'm like 99% sure he ain't natty.

He spends all of his time drinking and partying and when he feels like working, he tries to be a digital marketer. Where's the leftover time and energy to train hard?

He also tries to pass himself off as self made when his dad was literally one of the richest Canadians.He also plagiarized his entire training and diet plan from Martin Berkhan. I'm not even talking copying the ideas, he literally took entire sections word for word, then added his own custom flair (removing all the leg training), this sounds like a joke but is literally what he did.If he's that bold faced of a liar in general, why wouldn't he lie about gear use too?

The only major YouTube celery that's actually natty is that Alpha Destiny guy. He's extremely dedicated to his training, that's why his content has such low production value, all of his effort is spent on training. And he's a turbomanlet, that's why he still looks jacked despite being natty.
To be fair removing the leg training from Martin Berkhan's training protocol was a genius move from a marketing perspective. It gave the training routine mass appeal. Most people who workout do it to improve their body in areas that normies will notice and don't want unnecessary fatigue. That's exactly what Kinobody's take on Berkhan's training regime gives people.
post 1693486373 11-16-2023, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted By SelenasAss⏩
That's what I'm sayin, he's been training for 20 years

i think he looked best in 2016 here tho'

08:50

Greg was juicing in 2016

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post 1693486673 11-16-2023, 07:16 PM
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i love his workouts and still do some of them, except i dont train legs at all. his program excludes squats and deadlifts but has lunges or something
post 1693486763 11-16-2023, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted By bsrkoacar2⏩
Trt is low risk high reward when your income depends on your image.
Low risk compared to blasting maybe

Still has risks associated with it though

I believe he's a trust fund kid also, so income not as big of a concern
post 1693487733 11-16-2023, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted By Moorgate⏩
Alpha destiny is amazing, I respect that guy.

Kinobody is definitely a hustler but you gotta play the game, people steal business ideas everyday and make money, it’s a dog eat dog world. And you can still live a party lifestyle and maintain a good physique, Gary ridgeway is an alcoholic and is still strong/jacked
Gary Ridgeway isn't natty.
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
Low risk compared to blasting maybe

Still has risks associated with it though

I believe he's a trust fund kid also, so income not as big of a concern
The risks of you being on the high end of the natty test range with TRT is so miniscule. That's the point of TRT. It's not to be on supraphysiological doses.
post 1693488343 11-16-2023, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted By AdvancedDreamer⏩
The risks of you being on the high end of the natty test range with TRT is so miniscule. That's the point of TRT. It's not to be on supraphysiological doses.
It's really not. It still carries some not insignifcant heart disease risks

How many TRT guys do you think are religiously keeping their blood pressure low and having heart imaging done frequently?

Very few. A lot of people think that simple bloodwork is the answer in preventing disease lol
post 1693488633 11-16-2023, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted By Rebel012⏩
Gary Ridgeway isn't natty.
Blasphemy.

But on a more serious note, anyone with a good physique knows how lighting can make your abs look much better than normal. I would suspect he only selects the video moments where he looks his best. I bet if you saw his physique out on the street without optimal lighting, you would not have the same non-natty suspicions.

I consider it a compliment when someone thinks I am juicing; but, it's usually only an accusation from someone who doesn't have a gym membership.
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Originally Posted By LargePeter⏩
People think that's unachievable natty?
Originally Posted By PaulJerome⏩
It works like this. Miscers think anyone with a better physique than theirs must be on gear.
Just because a physique is achievable natty doesn't mean that it was.

Most people with 5 years of solid training can hit a similar physique. HOWEVER, most people that look like this have taken gear or high levels of TRT.

The primary reason why I don't think this is natty (besides him being a liar about other things) is because of the lack of fluctuation.

For this physique to be natty you would expect him to normally be 20-30 lbs heavier for 9-10 months. Peak like this for 2-3 months slowly losing mass.
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He looks pretty natty these days. Especially in clothes.
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
It's really not. It still carries some not insignifcant heart disease risks

How many TRT guys do you think are religiously keeping their blood pressure low and having heart imaging done frequently?

Very few. A lot of people think that simple bloodwork is the answer in preventing disease lol
There’s an inherent risk in anything you do brah. Just walking outside alone you’re risking death.

If you have a family history of issues then you should definitely monitor more frequent but I think it is negligent when you completely ignore testing. Just because some don’t do it doesn’t mean all don’t.
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No

Does he look massive or strong? If he's on roids he's getting ripped off. That's what natty looks like, i guess when you stare at steroids freaks al day you forget what natty even looks like.
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Originally Posted By RocknRollMuscle⏩
No

Does he look massive or strong? If he's on roids he's getting ripped off. That's what natty looks like, i guess when you stare at steroids freaks al day you forget what natty even looks like.
You don’t rep 3 plates on bench and OHP 2 plates with shredded abs while natty. That’s not reality
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Originally Posted By RocknRollMuscle⏩
No

Does he look massive or strong? If he's on roids he's getting ripped off. That's what natty looks like, i guess when you stare at steroids freaks al day you forget what natty even looks like.
Are you natty? Do you look like that?
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Originally Posted By Ironface⏩
You don’t rep 3 plates on bench and OHP 2 plates with shredded abs while natty. That’s not reality
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i wouldnt say hes shredded




his pushing strength is his strength, you can def press 3 plates for reps lean
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Not natty. The strength to weight ratio makes no sense.
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Originally Posted By RocknRollMuscle⏩
No

Does he look massive or strong? If he's on roids he's getting ripped off. That's what natty looks like, i guess when you stare at steroids freaks al day you forget what natty even looks like.
He looks better than 99% of men that USE steroids.



Id say hes on a mild permadose of like 300 mg test a week or something like that, just enough to put him slightly above average upper limits of natural, but close enough that if someone asks for a natty check he can be back to normal quickly.



If i had to bet my life on whether or not he has ever injected something inside of him, id do it in an instant, its a no brainer.
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Originally Posted By Ironface⏩
You don’t rep 3 plates on bench and OHP 2 plates with shredded abs while natty. That’s not reality
I don't flat bench or OHP now, but a few years ago I did as a natty. 245 for reps on OHP and 275 for reps on incline bench, both without a spotter. But I weighed 30-40 pounds more than bro.

His physique is achievable with good genetics, diet and serious training; however, most people who look like that are taking something and putting in less work with a less strict diet.
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