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Which one of these QBs deserves the MVP?
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| QB A | 3 | 60% | |
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12-19-2023, 04:50 PM
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Which one of these QBs deserves the MVP?
QB A
3795 Yards (2nd)
69.8% Completion % (2nd)
29 TDs (1st)
7.6% TD % (1st)
7 INTs (T - 1st Among QBs with 14 games played)
9.9 Yards/Attempt (1st)
119 Passer Rating (1st)
76.0 QBR (1st)
11-3 Team Record (1st in Conference)
5 Wins Against Current Playoff Contenders
# of QB Categories Placed 1st: 6
QB B
3105 Yards (15th)
66.3% Completion % (10th)
17 TDs (17th)
4.2% TD % (15th)
7 INTs (T - 1st Among QBs with 14 games played)
7.7 Yards/Attempt (4th)
96.5 Passer Rating (8th)
60.8 QBR (8th)
11-3 Team Record (1st in Conference)
6 Wins Against Current Playoff Contenders (Includes dominant wins over #2 and #3 in his conference)
# of QB Categories Placed 1st: 0
QB C
3639 Yards (5th)
68.8% Completion % (4th)
28 TDs (2nd)
5.8% TD % (3rd)
7 INTs (T - 1st Among QBs with 14 games played)
7.5 Yards/Attempt (5th)
104 Passer Rating (3rd)
72.7 QBR (2nd)
10-4 Team Record (2nd in Conference)
2 Wins Against Current Playoff Contenders
# of QB Categories Placed 1st: 0
QB D
3541 Yards (8th)
66.3% Completion % (9th)
26 TDs (4th)
5.3% TD % (6th)
14 INTs (T - 2nd WORST among active QBs with 14 games played)
7.2 Yards/Attempt (10th)
93.2 Passer Rating (10th)
69.7 QBR (3rd)
8-6 Team Record (9th in Conference)
4 Wins Against Current Playoff Contenders
# of QB Categories Placed 1st: 0
QB E
3335 Yards (11th)
65.7% Completion % (13th)
19 TDs (4th)
4.1% TD % (16th)
12 INTs (T - 4th WORST among active QBs with 14 games played)
7.2 Yards/Attempt (11th)
89.9 Passer Rating (18th)
59.9 QBR (10th)
10-4 Team Record (5th in Conference)
7 Wins Against Current Playoff Contenders
# of QB Categories Placed 1st: 0
This is assuming the QB Bias the MVP award has had recently. There has only been one non-QB to win the award since 2007 (AP in 2012). If the award this year would go to a non-QB it would obviously go to CMC
For reference, here are the stats for the MVP last year (Full 17 games, obviously we have 3 games to go)
5250 Yards (1st)
67.1% Completion % (7th)
41 TDs (1st)
6.3% TD % (1st)
12 INTs (T - 2nd HIGHEST Among QBs with 17 games played)
8.1 Yards/Attempt (2nd)
105.2 Passer Rating (2nd)
79.0 QBR (1st)
14-3 Team Record (1st in Conference)
6 Wins Against Playoff Teams
# of QB Categories Placed 1st: 4
3795 Yards (2nd)
69.8% Completion % (2nd)
29 TDs (1st)
7.6% TD % (1st)
7 INTs (T - 1st Among QBs with 14 games played)
9.9 Yards/Attempt (1st)
119 Passer Rating (1st)
76.0 QBR (1st)
11-3 Team Record (1st in Conference)
5 Wins Against Current Playoff Contenders
# of QB Categories Placed 1st: 6
QB B
3105 Yards (15th)
66.3% Completion % (10th)
17 TDs (17th)
4.2% TD % (15th)
7 INTs (T - 1st Among QBs with 14 games played)
7.7 Yards/Attempt (4th)
96.5 Passer Rating (8th)
60.8 QBR (8th)
11-3 Team Record (1st in Conference)
6 Wins Against Current Playoff Contenders (Includes dominant wins over #2 and #3 in his conference)
# of QB Categories Placed 1st: 0
QB C
3639 Yards (5th)
68.8% Completion % (4th)
28 TDs (2nd)
5.8% TD % (3rd)
7 INTs (T - 1st Among QBs with 14 games played)
7.5 Yards/Attempt (5th)
104 Passer Rating (3rd)
72.7 QBR (2nd)
10-4 Team Record (2nd in Conference)
2 Wins Against Current Playoff Contenders
# of QB Categories Placed 1st: 0
QB D
3541 Yards (8th)
66.3% Completion % (9th)
26 TDs (4th)
5.3% TD % (6th)
14 INTs (T - 2nd WORST among active QBs with 14 games played)
7.2 Yards/Attempt (10th)
93.2 Passer Rating (10th)
69.7 QBR (3rd)
8-6 Team Record (9th in Conference)
4 Wins Against Current Playoff Contenders
# of QB Categories Placed 1st: 0
QB E
3335 Yards (11th)
65.7% Completion % (13th)
19 TDs (4th)
4.1% TD % (16th)
12 INTs (T - 4th WORST among active QBs with 14 games played)
7.2 Yards/Attempt (11th)
89.9 Passer Rating (18th)
59.9 QBR (10th)
10-4 Team Record (5th in Conference)
7 Wins Against Current Playoff Contenders
# of QB Categories Placed 1st: 0
This is assuming the QB Bias the MVP award has had recently. There has only been one non-QB to win the award since 2007 (AP in 2012). If the award this year would go to a non-QB it would obviously go to CMC
For reference, here are the stats for the MVP last year (Full 17 games, obviously we have 3 games to go)
5250 Yards (1st)
67.1% Completion % (7th)
41 TDs (1st)
6.3% TD % (1st)
12 INTs (T - 2nd HIGHEST Among QBs with 17 games played)
8.1 Yards/Attempt (2nd)
105.2 Passer Rating (2nd)
79.0 QBR (1st)
14-3 Team Record (1st in Conference)
6 Wins Against Playoff Teams
# of QB Categories Placed 1st: 4
12-19-2023, 05:26 PM
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This ignores the most important factor which is the context of the players performance.
12-19-2023, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
Can you expand on this?This ignores the most important factor which is the context of the players performance.
And who would your choice be out of A through E?
12-20-2023, 08:33 AM
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I have always found that the teams performance late in the season had more of an impact than straight Dan Marino numbers.
McCafrey
Or B Purdy
McCafrey
Or B Purdy
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12-20-2023, 11:21 AM
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QB A should certainly be leading
Need to wait and see if one drags Kadarius Toney and the ghost of Travis Kelce to the 1 seed first tho
Need to wait and see if one drags Kadarius Toney and the ghost of Travis Kelce to the 1 seed first tho
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12-20-2023, 11:29 AM
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Purdy
he's an elite QB playing for 900k....he's the most VALUABLE for the money = MVP
he's an elite QB playing for 900k....he's the most VALUABLE for the money = MVP
12-20-2023, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted By thedarrenestes⏩
Mahomes ain’t even in the top 5, his defense is carrying himQB A should certainly be leading
Need to wait and see if one drags Kadarius Toney and the ghost of Travis Kelce to the 1 seed first tho
Need to wait and see if one drags Kadarius Toney and the ghost of Travis Kelce to the 1 seed first tho
12-20-2023, 11:45 AM
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12-21-2023, 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
Man, gonna be a rough February for you when you lose to him again.Mahomes ain’t even in the top 5, his defense is carrying him
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12-21-2023, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
Brock Purdy doesnt deserve MVP. He's not the MVP of his own offense let alone the NFLCan you expand on this?
And who would your choice be out of A through E?
And who would your choice be out of A through E?
I wouldnt pick anyone on raw stats because MVP is a context award. Who is the doing the most for his team considering circumstance
12-21-2023, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
Obviously that’s not how it works or Brady would have more MVPs than superbowl ringsBrock Purdy doesnt deserve MVP. He's not the MVP of his own offense let alone the NFL
I wouldnt pick anyone on raw stats because MVP is a context award. Who is the doing the most for his team considering circumstance
I wouldnt pick anyone on raw stats because MVP is a context award. Who is the doing the most for his team considering circumstance
12-21-2023, 09:28 AM
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It would be wild if Purdy got it but it should be CMC.
12-21-2023, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted By Vhagar⏩
it is how it works when someone like brock is the candidate in question with that level of supporting cast. again, when its easy to argue you arent MVP of your own offense you are disqualified.Obviously that’s not how it works or Brady would have more MVPs than superbowl rings
when its easy to argue you have the best weapons generally in the nfl, you are disqualified.
12-21-2023, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
I’m all good with a non QB winning this yearit is how it works when someone like brock is the candidate in question with that level of supporting cast. again, when its easy to argue you arent MVP of your own offense you are disqualified.
when its easy to argue you have the best weapons generally in the nfl, you are disqualified.
when its easy to argue you have the best weapons generally in the nfl, you are disqualified.
But if it’s a QB then it’s Brock and it isn’t close
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Originally Posted By YoungMetro24⏩
Chiefs ain't even making the SB boyo you know this. It's Ravens or PhinsMan, gonna be a rough February for you when you lose to him again.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
Just come out with it and say you think it should go to Lamar you racist fukkit is how it works when someone like brock is the candidate in question with that level of supporting cast. again, when its easy to argue you arent MVP of your own offense you are disqualified.
when its easy to argue you have the best weapons generally in the nfl, you are disqualified.
when its easy to argue you have the best weapons generally in the nfl, you are disqualified.
Even tho he's playing sub par this year lol
12-21-2023, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted By Vhagar⏩
its not a QB then because brock is disqualified, he has the best weapons in the NFL by far and isnt the MVP of his own offenseI’m all good with a non QB winning this year
But if it’s a QB then it’s Brock and it isn’t close
But if it’s a QB then it’s Brock and it isn’t close
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
I think it should be a white running back, how racist of meJust come out with it and say you think it should go to Lamar you racist fukk
Even tho he's playing sub par this year lol
Even tho he's playing sub par this year lol
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
Your hate of Purdy makes no senseI think it should be a white running back, how racist of me
No one talked chit about Mahomes winning when he had Kelce and Hill
No one even talked about Deebo and Aiyuk as weapons before
You know it won’t go to a RB
You’re just a Lamar fanboy even tho he’s a mid QB, it’s ok to admit that
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
lol you dont know ball. All you have to do is watch what Mahomes was doing vs purdy to see the difference. the kind of plays Mahomes was making, the kind of throws and off script chit that nobody else can do is why he was given credit despite weapons. What Brock is doing is mostly executing scheme that many others could do to the same or greater degree.Your hate of Purdy makes no sense
No one talked chit about Mahomes winning when he had Kelce and Hill
No one even talked about Deebo and Aiyuk as weapons before
You know it won’t go to a RB
You’re just a Lamar fanboy even tho he’s a mid QB, it’s ok to admit that
No one talked chit about Mahomes winning when he had Kelce and Hill
No one even talked about Deebo and Aiyuk as weapons before
You know it won’t go to a RB
You’re just a Lamar fanboy even tho he’s a mid QB, it’s ok to admit that
Mahomes on the niners doesnt lose a game. Purdy on the chiefs isnt a playoff team. Everyone knows this.
Keep telling me how much I love Lamar for some reason. I dont think he's close to MVP level this year its just a down year for play and his teams good.
I also dont see why it wont go to CMC. If he has a strong end to the season he's winning 100%.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
I’m not saying Brock is a better QB than Mahomes. Obviously when he’s playing at his peak Mahomes is the best QB in the league. My point is that he did have some amazing weapons when he won MVP and this year in particular Brock is out playing himlol you dont know ball. All you have to do is watch what Mahomes was doing vs purdy to see the difference. the kind of plays Mahomes was making, the kind of throws and off script chit that nobody else can do is why he was given credit despite weapons. What Brock is doing is mostly executing scheme that many others could do to the same or greater degree.
Mahomes on the niners doesnt lose a game. Purdy on the chiefs isnt a playoff team. Everyone knows this.
Keep telling me how much I love Lamar for some reason. I dont think he's close to MVP level this year its just a down year for play and his teams good.
I also dont see why it wont go to CMC. If he has a strong end to the season he's winning 100%.
Mahomes on the niners doesnt lose a game. Purdy on the chiefs isnt a playoff team. Everyone knows this.
Keep telling me how much I love Lamar for some reason. I dont think he's close to MVP level this year its just a down year for play and his teams good.
I also dont see why it wont go to CMC. If he has a strong end to the season he's winning 100%.
No one talked about how dominant Deebo and Aiyuk were when Jimmy was playing. Jimmy never put up these types of numbers with this crew
The Panthers did nothing with CMC on the squad. It’s not like CMC turned his QBs into #1 QBs when he was there
So all this talk about the system and the squad is just subjective cope. There’s no way of knowing who would do well where. It’s just used to discredit people
I’ll ask you this, who would get your MVP vote if it had to go to a QB (which it will) ? Dak? Lamar? Hurts? Allen? Lmao
If you choose anyone but Brock you’re literally a moron (no offense ofc)
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
Several things can be true at once.I’m not saying Brock is a better QB than Mahomes. Obviously when he’s playing at his peak Mahomes is the best QB in the league. My point is that he did have some amazing weapons when he won MVP and this year in particular Brock is out playing him
No one talked about how dominant Deebo and Aiyuk were when Jimmy was playing. Jimmy never put up these types of numbers with this crew
The Panthers did nothing with CMC on the squad. It’s not like CMC turned his QBs into #1 QBs when he was there
So all this talk about the system and the squad is just subjective cope. There’s no way of knowing who would do well where. It’s just used to discredit people
I’ll ask you this, who would get your MVP vote if it had to go to a QB (which it will) ? Dak? Lamar? Hurts? Allen? Lmao
If you choose anyone but Brock you’re literally a moron (no offense ofc)
No one talked about how dominant Deebo and Aiyuk were when Jimmy was playing. Jimmy never put up these types of numbers with this crew
The Panthers did nothing with CMC on the squad. It’s not like CMC turned his QBs into #1 QBs when he was there
So all this talk about the system and the squad is just subjective cope. There’s no way of knowing who would do well where. It’s just used to discredit people
I’ll ask you this, who would get your MVP vote if it had to go to a QB (which it will) ? Dak? Lamar? Hurts? Allen? Lmao
If you choose anyone but Brock you’re literally a moron (no offense ofc)
1. Brock has performed better than Mahomes this year, I never said otherwise
2. Brock is way better than Jimmy G, I never said otherwise
3. CMC couldnt win on the panthers by himself. neither can brock purdy
All of these things are true. None of it means Brock is MVP.
If it had to go to a QB no matter what, this year I would look at all the good teams and say which one would be the worst off if they didnt have their QB. By that standard Brock would literally be my last choice.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
That’s literally not how the MVP works. The MVP goes to the QB on one of the best teams. That’s how it’s been for years. So you’re saying you would just literally break the mold of how the MVP has been determined for the last 15 years just to discredit Brock and not give it to himSeveral things can be true at once.
1. Brock has performed better than Mahomes this year, I never said otherwise
2. Brock is way better than Jimmy G, I never said otherwise
3. CMC couldnt win on the panthers by himself. neither can brock purdy
All of these things are true. None of it means Brock is MVP.
If it had to go to a QB no matter what, this year I would look at all the good teams and say which one would be the worst off if they didnt have their QB. By that standard Brock would literally be my last choice.
1. Brock has performed better than Mahomes this year, I never said otherwise
2. Brock is way better than Jimmy G, I never said otherwise
3. CMC couldnt win on the panthers by himself. neither can brock purdy
All of these things are true. None of it means Brock is MVP.
If it had to go to a QB no matter what, this year I would look at all the good teams and say which one would be the worst off if they didnt have their QB. By that standard Brock would literally be my last choice.
lol, delusional
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Originally Posted By ohiostate124⏩
This, I don't know how you can't give it to CMC at this point.It would be wild if Purdy got it but it should be CMC.
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Originally Posted By monty097⏩
JT and Derrick Henry both had 2100+ yards from scrimmage in recent years. Can you bump all the old MVP threads where miscers were clamoring they should have won MVP?This, I don't know how you can't give it to CMC at this point.
Cmc Had almost 2400 scrimmage yards in 2019. Again, can we see all the miscers support from 2019 for him to win MVP?
What about Demarco Murray in 2014 or Chris Johnson in 2009?
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OPOY will the be the premier NFL award this year
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Originally Posted By thedarrenestes⏩
Brock > Mahomes this yearOPOY will the be the premier NFL award this year
Sorry but it's just true
Brocks stats this year also > Mahomes stats last year ;]
12-21-2023, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
Lol you need this more than anyone else in the sports miscBrock > Mahomes this year
Sorry but it's just true
Brocks stats this year also > Mahomes stats last year ;]
Sorry but it's just true
Brocks stats this year also > Mahomes stats last year ;]
I for one hope Brock pulls the MVP in the most down QB year in recent memory
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