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post 1695593203 12-29-2023, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
This f'n moron. The U.S. is not a democracy, we are a Constitutional Republic. This ban won't last, it's like they want Trump to win
Representative democracy.
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post 1695593513 12-30-2023, 12:21 AM
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post 1695593603 12-30-2023, 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
The ONLY fuking idiots repeating this idiotic mantra are retarded TRUMPERS like this idiot.

They'renot the racists... the Dems are. They're also the first fuking morons to mention the word "plantation" in every race thread, while again, accusing the Dems of being full blown racists.
Dem Sen majority leader Chuck Schumer & Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson led a "No Ceasefire" chant at a pro-Israel rally recently. It's cute you think there is a difference in either party lol
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post 1695608073 12-30-2023, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
Implying that minorities are too stupid/incompetent to obtain an ID is...incredibly racist.That's just some basic facts and reality (which we all know is not your forte).
Again.. it'sYOUidiots that are making that claim. No Dem comes into a thread and argues that minorities are too stupid for anything -TRUMPERS DO.

So yes I agree.. implying minorities are too stupid for anything is moronic. Right along with the stupid mandatory racist "plantation" comments that always follows. You don't get to make the racist comments and then claim it was the left who actually did it.



Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
He bitches hysterically about this place yet is incapable of staying away. It's gotten beyond pathetic. If this place really upsets him so much...it seems like the reasonable thing would be to quit coming here, instead of having these repeated unhinged meltdowns.
We've been through this moron. I take breaks ALL the time.. if you have to resort to "stay away" as your solution to YOU *******s ruining this forum then you can just fist yourself.
post 1695608123 12-30-2023, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted By hotsaucebrah⏩
Dem Sen majority leader Chuck Schumer & Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson led a "No Ceasefire" chant at a pro-Israel rally recently. It's cute you think there is a difference in either party lol
Irrelevant to the thread topic.

Form an actual argument on the thread topic please.
post 1695608963 12-30-2023, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
The constitution only gives states the ability to hold an election, count votes, and prosecute for fraud. It cannot add additional qualifications or disqualifications. .
Almost every state has qualifications to appear on the ballot. Whether it is a fee, certain amount of signatures, etc.


Please explain to the audience Krakhead why Kanye West didn’t appear on the ballot in numerous states in 2020. I’ll wait.
post 1695609483 12-30-2023, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted By Phil9⏩
Almost every state has qualifications to appear on the ballot. Whether it is a fee, certain amount of signatures, etc.


Please explain to the audience Krakhead why Kanye West didn’t appear on the ballot in numerous states in 2020. I’ll wait.
Those are not qualifications.
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post 1695609783 12-30-2023, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
Those are not qualifications.
What are they?
post 1695610533 12-30-2023, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
Those are not qualifications.
How are they not qualificationsto appear on a state’s ballotKrakhead?
Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
What are they?
They are currently a problem for him because he’s a liar.
post 1695611543 12-30-2023, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted By Phil9⏩
How are they not qualificationsto appear on a state’s ballotKrakhead?







They are currently a problem for him because he’s a liar.
I imagine he's working up some convoluted semantic argument about how being disqualified for not meeting requirements is totally different than being disqualified for not meeting qualifications.
post 1695611803 12-30-2023, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted By Phil9⏩
How are they not qualificationsto appear on a state’s ballotKrakhead?







They are currently a problem for him because he’s a liar.
Stop strawmanning my post and read the rest of the post. I made a point, gave examples, and processes, but you chose to ignore it all to create a straw man and using a definition to change the argument in your favor, another logical fallacy. It's not clever, it's dishonest and unintelligent
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post 1695611973 12-30-2023, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
Stop strawmanning my post and read the rest of the post. I made a point, gave examples, and processes, but you chose to ignore it all to create a straw man and using a definition to change the argument in your favor, another logical fallacy. It's not clever, it's dishonest and unintelligent
Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
I imagine he's working up some convoluted semantic argument about how being disqualified for not meeting requirements is totally different than being disqualified for not meeting qualifications.
Seatard nailed it. Krakhead can’t answer the question and went on a convoluted rant to avoid answering it.
post 1695612083 12-30-2023, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
The constitution only gives states the ability to hold an election, count votes, and prosecute for fraud. It cannotadd additional qualifications or disqualifications. .
For the record, there was no strawman. I just quoted what you proclaimed LOL.
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
I made a point, gave examples, and processes...
You rarely make any fukking sense tho, missing the forest for the trees.
So the states are using the 14th amendment to say “He’s disqualified because of an insurrection”, but they cannot DQ him at a state level. It must come from the Supreme Court and/or congress, because this extends passed the constitutional authority of the states.
The process begins by an authority with jurisdiction, in this case the Maine SOS, making a determination. It was immediately then put on a path through the courts so it can reach a final determination at the federal level. Congress or the SC would never be prodded to take up the issue unless it was initiated at a lower level.
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
You rarely make any fukking sense tho, missing the forest for the trees.



The process begins by an authority with jurisdiction, in this case the Maine SOS, making a determination. It was immediately then put on a path through the courts so it can reach a final determination at the federal level. Congress or the SC would never be prodded to take up the issue unless it was initiated at a lower level.
It’s amazing the “state’s rights” advocates are now arguing against states making determinations about their own balloting process.


We should just completely federalize it if they want to make it the same across the board. But they aren’t arguing in good faith. It’s only because it involves their Fat Orange Daddy.
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Let's try to make this more clear; anything in the constitution pertains to the federal government, and restraint of what the government can and cannot do. If it is not in the constitution, then it becomes state, and not federal. The contradiction is that the states are using the constitution to make their arguments, but this is not a state issue because it is specifically written in the constitution, which makes it a federal issue.

In other words, a state cannot make a decision that takes away the rights, or goes against the will of the rest of the nation. If a decision affects people outside of the state, then it is not a state issue. This is why the constitution was written, and it is unconstitutional for states to make this decision for the rest of the nation.

This is constitutional law 101, but it is amazing how many brain dead people who have no concept of basic constitutional law, or adamant they are right. This is also an indication of just how extremist these states have become. A state that takes away the voting right of at least half the nation, would be considered a dictatorship
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