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Thread: 'Experts' Say New COVID Strain Will Cause Global "Heart Failure Pandemic"

post 1695705543 01-01-2024, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I do wanna take that stance

Lollerz
Any source for that?
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
I never said that. Here’s what you said









Which countries recommend the injections based on whether or not someone has an older family member?



You sure you wanna take that stance? Just lol.
Rekt. Checkmate
post 1695705693 01-01-2024, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted By ezmac31⏩
Rekt. Checkmate
Lol

Vaccines bad! Countries don't recommend them!

post 1695706023 01-01-2024, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Any source for that?
One that you misrepresented (Germany)

https://www.bundesgesundheitsministe...19-vaccination

Just lol
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Where did that ever happen?
Let's see, last year you probably made around 12 threads about the dangers of "Long Coivd," and the importance of being vaccinated.
post 1695706603 01-01-2024, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Let's see, last year you probably made around 12 threads about the dangers of "Long Coivd," and the importance of being vaccinated.
Any quote of me recommending vaccines for anyone would support your accusation.

Have one?
post 1695707133 01-01-2024, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Any quote of me recommending vaccines for anyone would support your accusation.

Have one?
Some people believe in the importance of mitigation. Same excuse you give for pathetic individuals who still mask up....
post 1695707293 01-01-2024, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Some people believe in the importance of mitigation. Same excuse you give for pathetic individuals who still mask up....
I don't see a quote in your post
post 1695707343 01-01-2024, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I don't see a quote in your post
Tell the truth.. Is thereanythingyou love more than covid and covid vaccines?
It's a hot night. The mind races. You think about your knife: the only friend who hasn't betrayed you, the only friend who won't be dead by sunup. Sleep tight mates, in your quilted chambray night shirts.
post 1695707723 01-01-2024, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Tell the truth.. Is thereanythingyou love more than covid and covid vaccines?
Quote not showing even after a refresh.

Brb gonna reboot interwebz
post 1695709423 01-01-2024, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Quote not showing even after a refresh.

Brb gonna reboot interwebz
You love it don't you.. I mean touching yourself, eyes rolled back, moaning in ecstasy, lust! Am I right?
It's a hot night. The mind races. You think about your knife: the only friend who hasn't betrayed you, the only friend who won't be dead by sunup. Sleep tight mates, in your quilted chambray night shirts.
post 1695709503 01-01-2024, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
You love it don't you.. I mean touching yourself, eyes rolled back, moaning in ecstasy, lust! Am I right?
How do you make the quotes invisible?
post 1695709893 01-01-2024, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
How do you make the quotes invisible?
You would fuk covid and let it spew it's hot delicious vaccines all over you.. Wouldn't you.
It's a hot night. The mind races. You think about your knife: the only friend who hasn't betrayed you, the only friend who won't be dead by sunup. Sleep tight mates, in your quilted chambray night shirts.
post 1695710443 01-01-2024, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
You would fuk covid and let it spew it's hot delicious vaccines all over you.. Wouldn't you.
I don't really understand the strategy of making things up and then getting mad at things that were just made up. But, I respect your right to do so






(quotes still not showing)
post 1695710623 01-01-2024, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I don't really understand the strategy of making things up and then getting mad at things that were just made up. But, I respect your right to do so






(quotes still not showing)
Who's mad?

I'm just amazed at you and your covid fetish.. What else could explain it except for out of control and unbridled lust?
It's a hot night. The mind races. You think about your knife: the only friend who hasn't betrayed you, the only friend who won't be dead by sunup. Sleep tight mates, in your quilted chambray night shirts.
post 1695710683 01-01-2024, 02:17 PM
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Sounds like they are running cover to hide the fact that it's the clot shot causing it.
In Hoots We Trust.
post 1695710993 01-01-2024, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Who's mad?

I'm just amazed at you and your covid fetish.. What else could explain it except for out of control and unbridled lust?
I dunno, mane. You spend a lot of time in covid threads. It might be something to query.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I dunno, mane.You spend a lot of time in covid threads. It might be something to query.
LMFAOOO!!!!!!

"I" spend a lot of time? Good lord man, you're a fuking monument to covid threads. I just pop in to laugh at you, wincel, and your obvious addiction to it.
It's a hot night. The mind races. You think about your knife: the only friend who hasn't betrayed you, the only friend who won't be dead by sunup. Sleep tight mates, in your quilted chambray night shirts.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
LMFAOOO!!!!!!

"I" spend a lot of time? Good lord man, you're a fuking monument to covid threads. I just pop in to laugh at you, wincel, and your obvious addiction to it.
Speakin of "monuments" in covid threads...where is that ViolentZ dude? Did he finally succumb to the covid sniffles or maybe it was too many clot shots...
Hey Timmy, show us on the boy doll where the tampon goes...
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
LMFAOOO!!!!!!

"I" spend a lot of time? Good lord man, you're a fuking monument to covid threads. I just pop in to laugh at you, wincel, and your obvious addiction to it.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
meme
But was I wrong?

Covid>Porn for you. Isn't it.
It's a hot night. The mind races. You think about your knife: the only friend who hasn't betrayed you, the only friend who won't be dead by sunup. Sleep tight mates, in your quilted chambray night shirts.
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Branch Covidians: achshully it’s you guys who care about Covid and vaccines, not us. Just disregard JLC and the rest of the groomer crews’ 200 doom and gloom threads on a cold since 2020.

Sad!
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Originally Posted By ezmac31⏩
Branch Covidians: achshully it’s you guys who care about Covid and vaccines, not us. Just disregard JLC and the rest of the groomer crews’ 200 doom and gloom threads on a cold since 2020.

Sad!
You mean like this one??


https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=180912613
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Originally Posted By ezmac31⏩
Branch Covidians: achshully it’s you guys who care about Covid and vaccines, not us. Just disregard JLC and the rest of the groomer crews’ 200 doom and gloom threads on a cold since 2020.

Sad!
Out of curiosity, who started this thread?
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
You mean like this one??


https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=180912613
Going back over 2 years?

Dodging Germany?

Just lol
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Going back over 2 years?

Dodging Germany?

Just lol
I’m not dodging Germany. There’s nothing in your link that says they base injection recommendations on whether or not someone has an older person in their family.


Did you ever find out whether omicron is less severe than delta?



And after answering that, we should get back to the thread topic. Heart problems.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
I’m not dodging Germany. There’s nothing in your link that says they base injection recommendations on whether or not someone has an older person in their family.


Did you ever find out whether omicron is less severe than delta?



And after answering that, we should get back to the thread topic. Heart problems.
My link?

Ono. It's from Germany (and was provided)

"Family members and close contacts of people for whom the COVID-19 vaccination is unlikely to produce a protective immune response"


You've also been dodging the evidence of cardiac issues in young people from Omnicom that I shared

Infections good, vaccines bad, right?

Such lulz
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
My link?

Ono. It's from Germany (and was provided)

"Family members and close contacts of people for whom the COVID-19 vaccination is unlikely to produce a protective immune response"


You've also been dodging the evidence of cardiac issues in young people from Omnicom that I shared

Infections good, vaccines bad, right?

Such lulz
This is exactly why I didn’t bother responding the first time. It doesn’t say what you claim it does. Unless you’re claiming that the injections don’t produce a protective immune response in any old people. Is that what you’re saying? And you’re just deflecting from the main point, which is that many advanced countries are no longer recommending these injections for the majority of people in their countries. It also deflects from the point that the reason countries stopped administering them in young people initially is because of a clear signal that tied the injections to heart issues.


You’ve also shared information that said omicron is as severe as delta, and still believe it to this day. Your track record isn’t very good.




And I’ll leave you to ramble by yourself and hope that posters who care to discuss the topic will get the thread back on track.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
This is exactly why I didn’t bother responding the first time. It doesn’t say what you claim it does. Unless you’re claiming that the injections don’t produce a protective immune response in any old people. Is that what you’re saying? And you’re just deflecting from the main point, which is that many advanced countries are no longer recommending these injections for the majority of people in their countries. It also deflects from the point that the reason countries stopped administering them in young people initially is because of a clear signal that tied the injections to heart issues.


You’ve also shared information that said omicron is as severe as delta, and still believe it to this day. Your track record isn’t very good.




And I’ll leave you to ramble by yourself and hope that posters who care to discuss the topic will get the thread back on track.
Now you're gonna go with no age effect?

Point being: government/political red tape =/= not recommend nor unavailable



To get back on topic, since you didn't have thoughts the first time:

Excess risk for acute myocardial infarction mortality during the COVID‐19 pandemic

"The excess death, defined as the difference between the observed and the predicted mortality rates, was most pronounced for the youngest (25–44 years) aged decedents, ranging from 23% to 34% for the youngest compared to 13%–18% for the oldest age groups. The trend of mortality suggests that age and sex disparities have persisted even through the recent Omicron surge, with excess AMI-associated mortality being most pronounced in younger-aged adults."

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jmv.28187

"Conflicts of interest

Dr. S. Cheng has received consulting fees from Zogenix outside of the submitted work. Dr. F. Ji has received speaker fees from Gilead Sciences, MSD, and Ascletis, in addition to consulting or advisory board fees from Gilead and MSD, all outside of the submitted work. The remaining authors declare no conflict of interest."

"Funding information

Erika J. Glazer Family Foundation"

https://projects.propublica.org/nonp...ions/461519428
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Now you're gonna go with no age effect?

Point being: government/political red tape =/= not recommend nor unavailable



To get back on topic, since you didn't have thoughts the first time:

Excess risk for acute myocardial infarction mortality during the COVID‐19 pandemic

"The excess death, defined as the difference between the observed and the predicted mortality rates, was most pronounced for the youngest (25–44 years) aged decedents, ranging from 23% to 34% for the youngest compared to 13%–18% for the oldest age groups. The trend of mortality suggests that age and sex disparities have persisted even through the recent Omicron surge, with excess AMI-associated mortality being most pronounced in younger-aged adults."

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jmv.28187

"Conflicts of interest

Dr. S. Cheng has received consulting fees from Zogenix outside of the submitted work. Dr. F. Ji has received speaker fees from Gilead Sciences, MSD, and Ascletis, in addition to consulting or advisory board fees from Gilead and MSD, all outside of the submitted work. The remaining authors declare no conflict of interest."

"Funding information

Erika J. Glazer Family Foundation"

https://projects.propublica.org/nonp...ions/461519428
I’ll take your persistent deflection as admission that no, the link you shared doesn’t claim what you say it claimed.


As far as that study, it doesn’t differentiate between people who received the injection vs. those who didn’t. Since fails to highlight that aspect, it is useless with regards to determining the extent that the virus is causing issues vs what extent the injections are causing issues. It also doesn’t break it down by year, which further reduces its value.


As you’ve said though, everyone should consider what’s best for them. Some people are ok with getting injections every year and dealing with potential side effects. Most people seem to be moving away from that approach though based on recent history, a weakened virus, a decreasingly effective injection, and significant risk of side effects.
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