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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
I’ll take your persistent deflection as admission that no, the link you shared doesn’t claim what you say it claimed.


As far as that study, it doesn’t differentiate between people who received the injection vs. those who didn’t. Since fails to highlight that aspect, it is useless with regards to determining the extent that the virus is causing issues vs what extent the injections are causing issues. It also doesn’t break it down by year, which further reduces its value.


As you’ve said though, everyone should consider what’s best for them. Some people are ok with getting injections every year and dealing with potential side effects. Most people seem to be moving away from that approach though based on recent history, a weakened virus, a decreasingly effective injection, and significant risk of side effects.
Infected vs uninfected, yeah? Do you think vaccination status would be imbalanced across groups? If so, in which direction? Do you feel the model didn't account for possible imbalance?

Are you just generally concerned with the use of regression, again?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
My link?

Ono. It's from Germany (and was provided)

"Family members and close contacts of people for whom the COVID-19 vaccination is unlikely to produce a protective immune response"


You've also been dodging the evidence of cardiac issues in young people from Omnicom that I shared

Infections good, vaccines bad, right?

Such lulz
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Now you're gonna go with no age effect?

Point being: government/political red tape =/= not recommend nor unavailable



To get back on topic, since you didn't have thoughts the first time:

Excess risk for acute myocardial infarction mortality during the COVID‐19 pandemic

"The excess death, defined as the difference between the observed and the predicted mortality rates, was most pronounced for the youngest (25–44 years) aged decedents, ranging from 23% to 34% for the youngest compared to 13%–18% for the oldest age groups. The trend of mortality suggests that age and sex disparities have persisted even through the recent Omicron surge, with excess AMI-associated mortality being most pronounced in younger-aged adults."

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jmv.28187

"Conflicts of interest

Dr. S. Cheng has received consulting fees from Zogenix outside of the submitted work. Dr. F. Ji has received speaker fees from Gilead Sciences, MSD, and Ascletis, in addition to consulting or advisory board fees from Gilead and MSD, all outside of the submitted work. The remaining authors declare no conflict of interest."

"Funding information

Erika J. Glazer Family Foundation"

https://projects.propublica.org/nonp...ions/461519428
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Infected vs uninfected, yeah? Do you think vaccination status would be imbalanced across groups? If so, in which direction? Do you feel the model didn't account for possible imbalance?

Are you just generally concerned with the use of regression, again?
If covid had a cock, how hard would you suck it?
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
If covid had a cock, how hard would you suck it?
Since you're bumping a thread just to be in it, I'd say not as hard as you
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Since you're bumping a thread just to be in it, I'd say not as hard as you
Strange twist of logic you're attempting there. Especially since you're the one constantly defending it and I'm the one who laughs at you because of it.

Tell the truth though.. you love it. Don't you.
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They ever figure out why the vaccine causes myocarditis?
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Originally Posted By 5x10⏩
They ever figure out why the vaccine causes myocarditis?
I thought the misc determined it was to reduce the population. No?
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
LMFAOOO!!!!!!

"I" spend a lot of time? Good lord man, you're a fuking monument to covid threads. I just pop in to laugh at you, wincel, and your obvious addiction to it.
Covid threads, and Tranny/Drag Queen threads, it's what JLC lives for.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Covid threads, and Tranny/Drag Queen threads, it's what JLC lives for.
Anything that involves a small prick.
Screw nature; my body will do what I DAMN WELL tell it to do!

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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Now you're gonna go with no age effect?

Point being: government/political red tape =/= not recommend nor unavailable



To get back on topic, since you didn't have thoughts the first time:

Excess risk for acute myocardial infarction mortality during the COVID‐19 pandemic

"The excess death, defined as the difference between the observed and the predicted mortality rates, was most pronounced for the youngest (25–44 years) aged decedents, ranging from 23% to 34% for the youngest compared to 13%–18% for the oldest age groups. The trend of mortality suggests that age and sex disparities have persisted even through the recent Omicron surge, with excess AMI-associated mortality being most pronounced in younger-aged adults."

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jmv.28187

"Conflicts of interest

Dr. S. Cheng has received consulting fees from Zogenix outside of the submitted work. Dr. F. Ji has received speaker fees from Gilead Sciences, MSD, and Ascletis, in addition to consulting or advisory board fees from Gilead and MSD, all outside of the submitted work. The remaining authors declare no conflict of interest."

"Funding information

Erika J. Glazer Family Foundation"

https://projects.propublica.org/nonp...ions/461519428
MYOCARDITIS!! OH JOY

Pfizer already stated their jabs (not a vaccine by definition) increase the risk of myocarditis

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-re...-agreement-and


"Authorized or approved mRNA COVID-19 vaccines show increased risks of myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) and pericarditis (inflammation of the lining outside the heart), particularly within the first week following vaccination"
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Respiratory virus activity is high and rising across the United States, CDC data shows

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/01/healt...rsv/index.html

It's been 4 years since COVID hit. Here's what's happening to prevent the next pandemic.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...c/71822911007/

COVID infections on the rise as new year begins

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/covid-...w-year-begins/

They'll never stop.
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Originally Posted By 5x10⏩
They ever figure out why the vaccine causes myocarditis?
The spike proteins accumulate in the heart, because they are in the bloodstream and all blood goes through the heart. Lymphocytes attack heart muscle which does not grow back. Watch pathologist Professor Arne Burkhardt's presentation at EU.


How COVID Vaccines Kill You, Immune Self-Attack: Pathologist Dr. Arne Burkhardt, Universities of Hamburg, Berne and Tübingen, EU Parliament 2023



All slides used in presentation:https://en.rattibha.com/thread/1654204667851595777








Dr. John Campbell, Spike protein in many organs
Who is J6 "Scaffold Commander," the key to the J6 Fedsurrection? https://rumble.com/v45y4z6-why-is-the-king-pin-of-j6-scaffold-commander-not-wanted-nor-identified-by-t.html
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Originally Posted By Paul
MYOCARDITIS!! OH JOY

Pfizer already stated their jabs (not a vaccine by definition) increase the risk of myocarditis

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-re...-agreement-and


"Authorized or approved mRNA COVID-19 vaccines show increased risks of myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) and pericarditis (inflammation of the lining outside the heart), particularly within the first week following vaccination"
It was infected vs not infected and during Omnicom and MI, not myocarditis
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
It was infected vs not infected and during Omnicom and MI, not myocarditis
Omicron, which you don't know whether or not it's more or less severe than Delta?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
It was infected vs not infected and during Omnicom and MI, not myocarditis
"Authorized or approved mRNA COVID-19 vaccines show increased risks of myocarditis"
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Originally Posted By Paul
"Authorized or approved mRNA COVID-19 vaccines show increased risks of myocarditis"
Cool. Unrelated, but cool.

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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Cool. Unrelated, but cool.

The topic is myocarditis and vaccines...seems pretty relatable to me
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Originally Posted By Paul
The topic is myocarditis and vaccines...seems pretty relatable to me
Oh. My bad, I should have assumed you didn't read the article to which you responded.

Thread topic isn't myocarditis or vaccines, either.

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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Oh. My bad, I should have assumed you didn't read the article to which you responded.

Thread topic isn't myocarditis or vaccines, either.

Seems quite a few posts ITT mention myocarditis and vaccines. But if you feel the need to be the arbiter of what this thread is about to make you feel better..mm okay.
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Originally Posted By Paul
Seems quite a few posts ITT mention myocarditis and vaccines. But if you feel the need to be the arbiter of what this thread is about to make you feel better..mm okay.
Just going by the thread title and the posts you quote in your replies
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Just going by the thread title and the posts you quote in your replies
I was responding to the topic of myocarditis...which was in the post I quoted...why does my post bother you so much?
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Originally Posted By Paul
I was responding to the topic of myocarditis...which was in the post I quoted...why does my post bother you so much?
It says "myocardial infarction"

It was my post.

It's a paper.
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Originally Posted By Paul
I was responding to the topic of myocarditis...which was in the post I quoted...why does my post bother you so much?
He also seems to get bothered when you point out that the study didn’t differentiate between people who got the injection and those who didn’t. For all we know, every single person that got myocarditis also received the injection and it could very well be that injections(which as you point out cause myocarditis), also make you more likely to get myocarditis from the infection.

But I’m sure he has no desire to look into that connection. Then again, he doesn’t even have a desire for data validation just so long as the conclusion matches his narrative.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
It says "myocardial infarction"

It was my post.

It's a paper.
How dangerous is the new variant? Should people mask up?
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
He also seems to get bothered when you point out that the study didn’t differentiate between people who got the injection and those who didn’t. For all we know, every single person that got myocarditis also received the injection and it could very well be that injections(which as you point out cause myocarditis), also make you more likely to get myocarditis from the infection.

But I’m sure he has no desire to look into that connection. Then again, he doesn’t even have a desire for data validation just so long as the conclusion matches his narrative.
I'm not bothered.

Not everyone has an easy time reading. I don't think that's something to be bothered by. Nor is people making stuff and being unable to support their made up stuff.

The data set is available and doesn't have that information ( CDC Wonder). But, I understand why you wouldn't want to discuss this paper, even though they used an unsupervised approach
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
How dangerous is the new variant? Should people mask up?
Let’s let him figure out whether or not omnicron is as severe as delta first. Baby steps….
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Let’s let him figure out whether or not omnicron is as severe as delta first. Baby steps….
The omicron deaths in young people were mostly mild, yeah?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
The omicron deaths in young people were mostly mild, yeah?
Like I said, baby steps. Keep trying, and maybe one day you’ll be able to understand what the rest of the world realized over two years ago. Some people are just slower than others, that’s all.




Feel free to start by reading through this thread

https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=180912613
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
The omicron deaths in young people were mostly mild, yeah?
Did omicron kill a lot of young children? More than the flu or were they not counting flu cases during that period? I can't remember, I know in my area the flu virtually did not exist while covid "positive" tests were very high. Strange how that worked...
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Like I said, baby steps. Keep trying, and maybe one day you’ll be able to understand what the rest of the world realized over two years ago. Some people are just slower than others, that’s all.




Feel free to start by reading through this thread

https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=180912613
Gotta go back a couple years to avoid addressing the paper, huh?

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Originally Posted By Fishman15⏩
Did omicron kill a lot of young children? More than the flu or were they not counting flu cases during that period? I can't remember, I know in my area the flu virtually did not exist while covid "positive" tests were very high. Strange how that worked...
The paper presents deaths by heart attack (Acute Myocardial Infarction; AMI) during the Omicron period.

"The excess death, defined as the difference between the observed and the predicted mortality rates, was most pronounced for the youngest (25–44 years) aged decedents, ranging from 23% to 34% for the youngest compared to 13%–18% for the oldest age groups. The trend of mortality suggests that age and sex disparities have persisted even through the recent Omicron surge, with excess AMI-associated mortality being most pronounced in younger-aged adults."
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