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post 1696034793 01-07-2024, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
You don't seem to know the difference between confer and confirm, what's a guy to do?

Florida surgeon general altered key findings in study on Covid-19 vaccine safety

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/0...ccine-00093510

Covid-19: Florida’s surgeon general used “careless” research practice in recommending against vaccination, his university finds

https://www.bmj.com/content/380/bmj.p110


Florida Surgeon General Manipulates Findings in Covid-19 Vaccine Safety Study

https://climate.law.columbia.edu/con...e-safety-study
Politico, and bmj...LOOOOL. Good ones. I almost spit up my rootbeer seeing those links


Dr. Janci Lindsay & Dr. Phillip Buckhaults testify that the Pfizer shot has been found to be contaminated with DNA, which can permanently alter your genetic code, and SV40 sequences which can infect the E.coli in your gut, turning you into a 'perpetual spike factory' as well as cause cancer.
post 1696034903 01-07-2024, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Baling on the paper you shared that counters your positions
Not bailing on it. It was already used to show that you lied earlier when saying covid injections don’t carry greater risk of myocarditis than other vaccines. It’s clear that the risk of myocarditis from covid injections(particularly mRNA injections) is greater than that of flu vaccines. But we’ve also established you lied due to lack of understanding and not necessarily out of desire to deceive.
post 1696035023 01-07-2024, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Politico, and bmj...LOOOOL. Good ones. I almost spit up my rootbeer seeing those links


Dr. Janci Lindsay & Dr. Phillip Buckhaults testify that the Pfizer shot has been found to be contaminated with DNA, which can permanently alter your genetic code, and SV40 sequences which can infect the E.coli in your gut, turning you into a 'perpetual spike factory' as well as cause cancer.
post 1696035073 01-07-2024, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
Not bailing on it. It was already used to show that you lied earlier when saying covid injections don’t carry greater risk of myocarditis than other vaccines. It’s clear that the risk of myocarditis from covid injections(particularly mRNA injections) is greater than that of flu vaccines. But we’ve also established you lied due to lack of understanding and not necessarily out of desire to deceive.
Lol

It showed you didn't read it and understood neither my argument nor your own
post 1696035093 01-07-2024, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Oh..so it's just "future batches" that will be addressed. Fuark, sucks for all those jabbies that already took it
post 1696035113 01-07-2024, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Politico, and bmj...LOOOOL. Good ones. I almost spit up my rootbeer seeing those links
His own staff confirmed
post 1696035153 01-07-2024, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Oh..so it's just "future batches" that will be addressed. Fuark, sucks for all those jabbies that already took it
Yeah... No

"Theoretical"

Janci is a whole 'notha deal
post 1696035353 01-07-2024, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Yeah... No

"Theoretical"

Janci is a whole 'notha deal
Uhh..no SV40 is confirmed to be in the jabs.
post 1696035403 01-07-2024, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Uhh..no SV40 is confirmed to be in the jabs.
No.
post 1696035493 01-07-2024, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
So the unvaccinated who died didn't go to the hospital?
Nice red herring fallacy

Vaccinated: 14% of the population
Vaccinated deaths 6% of the deaths

Not to mention we're skipping over the part where it was promised to stop transmission, then serious illness and death, then just death, then...
And it didnt stopanything
post 1696035573 01-07-2024, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted By FIDELityaccount
It killed millions of people and harmed many more. Yeah I do view it as a threat. Governments will use propaganda and coercion to force things like vaccination, just as they use them in war to rally a defense or to discourage crime and vice, etc. If they didn't have mandates, few would bother to get vaccinated, and we'd have many more deaths.
Ok - and putting aside the media hyperbole, we know for fact:

Of those who died of/with covid:
- Average age of death was 78
- 2.8 comorbidities on average
- 80% were obese or grossly obese

So, while people did get covid and die, only a very specific group were in any true danger. The Government propaganda, which profited Pfizer and those companies to the tune of billions, was not directed at all towards the specific group at risk, which again - that is my main problem here. It was never about older sick people needing to be careful, it was about everyone, including children, with knee-jerk reactions which did far more damage than covid itself. All cause mortality is skyrocketed and even during covid's peak, covid itself was not anywhere close to representing mass increase in all deaths (an increase prior to vaccines even being rolled out but coinciding with lockdowns, something to keep in mind). Something else was -- and still is -- killing millions.

Nobody making any money off of those dead bodies though, so the media has kept it under wraps and you, as smart as you are, aren't worked up about it like you were with covid.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

- Arthur Schopenhauer
post 1696035713 01-07-2024, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted By Jessejame5
Nice red herring fallacy

Vaccinated: 14% of the population
Vaccinated deaths 6% of the deaths

Not to mention we're skipping over the part where it was promised to stop transmission, then serious illness and death, then just death, then...
And it didnt stopanything
He won’t respond to this. He ignores all his checkmates
post 1696035743 01-07-2024, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted By Jessejame5
Nice red herring fallacy

Vaccinated: 14% of the population
Vaccinated deaths 6% of the deaths

Not to mention we're skipping over the part where it was promised to stop transmission, then serious illness and death, then just death, then...
And it didnt stopanything
The fallacy is in attempting to draw inference from eyeballing raw data. It cuts both ways.

Invalid? Yes.
post 1696035793 01-07-2024, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
The fallacy is in attempting to draw inference from eyeballing raw data. It cuts both ways.

Invalid? Yes.
Point proven
post 1696035873 01-07-2024, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted By ezmac31
Point proven
Indeed
post 1696035893 01-07-2024, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Lol

It showed you didn't read it and understood neither my argument nor your own
This is your argument.


“Myocarditis risk with vaccination isn't new and isn't greater for covid vaccines than for other vaccines.”



This is blatantly false, as evidenced by what I shared. It was also evidenced by what you shared(just lol).
post 1696036173 01-07-2024, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
No.
Yes. As the doctors testified, surgeon general showed. As well as Health Canada..


"Health Canada has confirmed the presence of a Simian Virus 40 (SV40) DNA sequence in the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine, which the manufacturer had not previously disclosed. There is debate among scientists with regards to the significance of the finding, with some saying it has the potential to cause cancer, and others saying it poses little to no threat.

"Health Canada expects sponsors to identify any biologically functional DNA sequences within a plasmid (such as an SV40 enhancer) at the time of submission," the agency said in an email to The Epoch Times.

"Although the full DNA sequence of the Pfizer plasmid was provided at the time of initial filing, the sponsor did not specifically identify the SV40 sequence."

The regulator said that after scientists Kevin McKernan and Dr. Phillip J. Buckhaults publicly raised the presence of SV40 enhancers in the vaccines earlier this year, “it was possible for Health Canada to confirm the presence of the enhancer based on the plasmid DNA sequence submitted by Pfizer against the published SV40 enhancer sequence."

Both scientists have made waves after discovering plasmid DNA in the mRNA COVID-19 injections, warning it could potentially alter the human genome. However, the two share different degrees of concern about the significance of an SV40 sequence—which is used as an enhancer to drive gene transcription during the vaccine manufacturing process—being present in the shots.
Mr. McKernan, a former researcher and team leader for the Massachusetts Institute of Technology Human Genome Project, told The Epoch Times he suspects Pfizer didn’t disclose the presence of the DNA sequence due to the association of SV40 with polio vaccines. He said while there is no evidence the sequence is carcinogenic, he has concerns about its integration into the human genome.

The polyomavirus Simian Virus 40, an oncogenic DNA virus, was previously removed from polio vaccines due to concerns about a link to cancers. Polio vaccines used in the late 1950s and early 1960s were found to be contaminated with SV40 as the virus was present in monkey kidney cells that were used to grow the vaccine.

Mr. McKernan said while the full 5kb SV40 virus was present in the polio vaccines, the presence of SV40 promoters was still concerning due to the risk of them integrating into the human genomes near oncogenes, which are genes that have the potential to cause cancer

Angus Dalgleish, professor of oncology at St. George's Hospital Medical School in London, recently wrote in The Conservative Woman about a higher incidence of cancers following COVID-19 vaccination seen by himself and his colleagues, including an “epidemic of explosive cancers” with multiple metastatic spread.
He noted the potential “DNA plasmid and SV40 integration in promoting cancer development.”


https://www.theepochtimes.com/world/...r-shot-5513277
post 1696036213 01-07-2024, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
This is your argument.


“Myocarditis risk with vaccination isn't new and isn't greater for covid vaccines than for other vaccines.”



This is blatantly false, as evidenced by what I shared. It was also evidenced by what you shared(just lol).
Like a broken record

I shared a meta analysis that addressed the question directly.

You shared a snippet from an abstract of a paper you didn't read and didn't contrast the rates directly. A paper that counters your positions.

CI's matter.

As I thought, it's the regression discussion all over again.

Who developed the algorithm??!!one??

Just lol
post 1696036383 01-07-2024, 06:09 PM
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So....BMJ unreliable, Epoch Times objective?

Are you for real?

The SV40 sequence has been used in vaccine development for ages (including the influenza and hepatitis shots that have been administered globally for decades).

It's not a complete virus and doesn't alter DNA.

Not anti vaccine, just anti covid vaccine

Just lol
post 1696036423 01-07-2024, 06:10 PM
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Yikes


JLC do you enjoy being a beta punching bag? I’d love for you to admit who is paying you so I could message them personally but I’m sure you disclosing as much would cost you 5 cents a post so I won’t wait
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
So....BMJ unreliable, Epoch Times objective?

Are you for real?

The SV40 sequence has been used in vaccine development for ages (including the influenza and hepatitis shots that have been administered globally for decades).

Not anti vaccine, just anti covid vaccine

Just lol
I guess that explains why cancer skyrocketed as vaccine distribution has increased. Wow, great point

SV40 good
cancer good
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Originally Posted By Paul
I guess that explains why cancer skyrocketed as vaccine distribution has increased. Wow, great point

SV40 good
cancer good
Even the spun narrative is false.

Epidemiologic studies showed no increased risk of cancers in those who received polio vaccine between 1955 and 1963.
post 1696036903 01-07-2024, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted By ezmac31
Yikes


JLC do you enjoy being a beta punching bag? I’d love for you to admit who is paying you so I could message them personally but I’m sure you disclosing as much would cost you 5 cents a post so I won’t wait
I don't think others regurgitating anti vaccine talking points and rhetoric is equivalent to landing punches.

I think y'all not even realizing the way the discussion is going is pretty lulzy.

Confer =/= confirm

Just lol

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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Even the spun narrative is false.

Epidemiologic studies showed no increased risk of cancers in those who received polio vaccine between 1955 and 1963.
I'm sure those studies did lol.Jonas Salk, inventor of the IPV, testified before a Senate subcommittee that nearly all polio outbreaks since 1961 were caused by the oral polio vaccine."
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Originally Posted By ezmac31
Yikes


JLC do you enjoy being a beta punching bag? I’d love for you to admit who is paying you so I could message them personally but I’m sure you disclosing as much would cost you 5 cents a post so I won’t wait
No one’s paying him, and he doesn't give a sh!t about being a punching bag. He’s just here to troll, but does actually make branch Covidians look pretty bad.
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Originally Posted By Paul
I'm sure those studies did lol.Jonas Salk, inventor of the IPV, testified before a Senate subcommittee that nearly all polio outbreaks since 1961 were caused by the oral polio vaccine."
What does that have to do with SV40 and cancer?
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
No one’s paying him, and he doesn't give a sh!t about being a punching bag. He’s just here to troll, but does actually make branch Covidians look pretty bad.
Who supervised the training of the machine learning????!!!!!!

Just lol
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Originally Posted By NextPound
This isn’t surprising. People with conditions had to forego taking it, but they are mostly outliers.

So when are we supposed to all die again? Do you guys have a timeline or do I have to consult the numerologists?

The myocarditis stuff is so bs too. You guys act like it’s the end of the world. The percentage chance of just having an episode of myocarditis was something like 0.0007%.
Why did you get the jab?
post 1696038483 01-07-2024, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Who supervised the training of the machine learning????!!!!!!

Just lol
Thanks for proving my point.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
Thanks for proving my point.
That's what you asked

I get that when one uses an n of 1, under a frequentist paradigm, there is no variance for which to account when drawing inference. The validity of generalizing results obtained in such a design is suspect, but if that's what you learned, so be it.

However, in larger studies, ignoring the variance surrounding point estimates is invalid.

It's really pretty funny that, similar to the regression debacle, you're unaware of the silliness you've presented while trying to assume an air of authority
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