Imagine being a male, who not only has a PHD, but Olympic level genetics, and the only female who's ever kissed him was his mom..... Maybe. Unless she was so revolted by what she saw after he was born, and hightailed it out of there.

Remember when the Pfizer exec was busted by Veritas admitting that covid had been a cash cow for them, and that they wanted to keep it going?

And remember how hard wincel and JFC fought to defend big pharma then?

Pepperidge Farms Remembers....

"troglodyte" is unnecessary.

That out of the way, Wincel lives in some world where his idea of science is as-it-should-be. The way in which we were taught and somehow in the real world it's free from massive corruption, greed and all the things that we highlight constantly (and just gets ignored). It'd be like if I argued for capitalism, only using Adam Smith's ideas for it, ignoring all the cronyism that ultimately brings it down -- which, I think this inability to see things as they are, it probably explains why he's such a proponent of communism. Once again, we can read Engels and Marx all day long -- nowhere in their text do they advocate starving and killing millions and millions of people, even if Marx was a piece of **** who did encourage violence - but the reality of what communism always becomes is divergent from the idealized version of it.

Gotta live in the real world.

Any luck finding examples of where the proper requirements of approval ("long term" data) were in place for any pharmaceutical products?

Uh oh.

Looks as though ivermectin is bad because of Vioxx, right?

;(

https://www.vox.com/2015/9/19/935512...research-fraud

For years, the drug company GlaxoSmithKline was illegally persuading doctors to prescribe paroxetine, sold under the brand name Paxil, as an antidepressant for children and teenagers. They did so by citing what's known as Study 329 — research that was funded by the drug company and published in 2001, claiming to show that Paxil is "well tolerated and effective" for kids.

That marketing effort worked. In 2002 alone, doctors wrote two million Paxil prescriptions for children and adolescents.


But now here's the horrifying news: A major new analysis of the raw data behind Study 329, published in BMJ, suggests that the original conclusions were wildly wrong. Not only is Paxil ineffective, working no better than placebo, but it can actually cause serious side effects, including self-injury and suicide.

Unlike the original study, this follow-up research isn't funded by the drug manufacturer. And the researchers found that GSK had manipulated their data and selectively downplayed the harms of the drug in their analysis.

This isn't the first controversy around Paxil — or this study. The FDA originally approved Paxil in 1992 for use as an antidepressant for adults, not for adolescents. But between 1998 and 2003, GSK illegally tried to persuade doctors to prescribe the drug to adolescents anyway, using Study 329.

So journals are publishing studies that show negative effects of pharmaceuticals?

Did they have long term data on Paxil prior to approval?

What did people do before all of these pharmaceuticals were invented???

https://www.justice.gov/sites/defaul...-complaint.pdf

1. The United States brings this action to recover treble damages and civil penalties
under the False Claims Act, damages and other monetary relief under common law and equity against the defendants GlaxoSmithKline plc and GlaxoSmithKline LLC (together "GSK") for causing the submission of false or fraudulent claims to federal health care programs.

From 1999 through 2010 in some instances, GSK engaged in a fraudulent scheme to deceive and defraud physicians, patients, regulators, and federal health care programs to cause prescribing and payment for certain of GSK's drugs. This conduct includes repeatedly publishing and promoting false and misleading accounts of studies and treatment guidelines to convince physicians ot use GSK drugs. GSK misrepresented clinical evidence, downplayed or ignored safety risks, and failed to disclose hte rejection by the United States Food and Drug
Administration (FDA") of some of the exact claims GSK was making ot physicians. GSK promoted these products for uses that the FDA had not approved as safe and effective ("off-label" or "unapproved" uses), and for uses that were not medically accepted indications covered by federal health care programs. GSK also used a wide variety of gifts, payments and other forms
of remuneration to induce physicians to prescribe GSK's drugs, including trips to Bermuda and Jamaica, spa treatments and hunting trips, and sham consulting fees.

Lived free and healthy, I assume

So publishing harm of drugs is, or is not, censored?

Does this mean their MMR, DTaP, hapatitis, meningitis, and polio vaccines are all bad?

Yes. I know someone who's had zero childhood vaccines, healthier than anyone whos had any of this poison garbage. The fact that she's not dead proves that all of the sh*t you praise is total horseshít.There's no mechanism in nature that involves piercing the skin with a needle and completely bypassing the natural protection that mucus membranes and the gastrointestinal tract provide."Vaccines" have not eradicated any so-called diseases no matter what any source you link will say. If they were "so necessary", why didn't humanity become extinct thousands of years ago? Btw SIDS ("sudden infant death syndrome" is caused by the very "vaccines" you just mentioned. Sounds to me like it's time for mass arrest and death penalty public executions for all vaccine manufacturers and policy pushers worldwide.

Well, that answers that

I guess that’s one person’s take on it…assuming he’s not just some troll or a shill to paint all who question in a bad light.

All vaccines are bad. That poster knows a very healthy person who has received no vaccines. That person not being deadprovesvaccines are "horsesh!t".


Case closed.

For those who are only opposed to vaccines fromsomemanufacturers, do you discuss brands with the person administering the vaccine?

Do you ask the doctor, nurse, or pharmacist which manufacturer made the MMR, DTaP, hepatitis, meningitis, and/or polio vaccine you or your child will receive?

• In the USA in 1960, two virologists discovered that both polio vaccines were contaminated with the SV 40 virus which causes cancer in animals as well as changes in human cell tissue cultures. Millions of children had been injected with these vaccines. (Med Jnl of Australia 17/3/1973 p555)

• In 1871-2, England, with 98% of the population aged between 2 and 50 vaccinated against smallpox, it experienced its worst ever smallpox outbreak with 45,000 deaths. During the same period in Germany, with a vaccination rate of 96%, there were over 125,000 deaths from smallpox. (https://web.archive.org/web/20020224...adwin.toc.html)
The Hadwen Documents

• In Germany, compulsory mass vaccination against diphtheria commenced in 1940 and by 1945 diphtheria cases were up from 40,000 to 250,000. (Don't Get Stuck, Hannah Allen)

• In 1967, Ghana was declared measles free by the World Health Organisation after 96% of its population was vaccinated. In 1972, Ghana experienced one of its worst measles outbreaks with its highest ever mortality rate. (Dr H Albonico, MMR Vaccine Campaign in Switzerland, March 1990)

• In 1977, Dr Jonas Salk who developed the first polio vaccine, testified along with other scientists, that mass inoculation against polio was the cause of most polio cases throughout the USA since 1961. (Science 4/4/77 "Abstracts" )

• In the UK between 1970 and 1990, over 200,000 cases of whooping cough occurred in fully vaccinated children. (Community Disease Surveillance Centre, UK)

• In the 1970's a tuberculosis vaccine trial in India involving 260,000 people revealed that more cases of TB occurred in the vaccinated than the unvaccinated. (The Lancet 12/1/80 p73)

• In 1978, a survey of 30 States in the US revealed that more than half of the children who contracted measles had been adequately vaccinated. (The People's Doctor, Dr R Mendelsohn)

• The February 1981 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association found that 90% of obstetricians and 66% of pediatricians refused to take the rubella vaccine.

• In 1979, Sweden abandoned the whooping cough vaccine due to its ineffectiveness. Out of 5,140 cases in 1978, it was found that 84% had been vaccinated three times! (BMJ 283:696-697, 1981)

• In the USA, the cost of a single DPT shot had risen from 11 cents in 1982 to $11.40 in 1987. The manufacturers of the vaccine were putting aside $8 per shot to cover legal costs and damages they were paying out to parents of brain damaged children and children who died after vaccination. (The Vine, Issue 7, January 1994, Nambour, Qld)

• In Oman between 1988 and 1989, a polio outbreak occurred amongst thousands of fully vaccinated children. The region with the highest attack rate had the highest vaccine coverage. The region with the lowest attack rate had the lowest vaccine coverage. (The Lancet, 21/9/91)

• In 1990, a UK survey involving 598 doctors revealed that over 50% of them refused to have the Hepatitis B vaccine despite belonging to the high risk group urged to be vaccinated. (British Med Jnl, 27/1/1990)

• In the USA, from July 1990 to November 1993, the US Food and Drug Administration counted a total of 54,072 adverse reactions following vaccination. The FDA admitted that this number represented only 10% of the real total, because most doctors were refusing to report vaccine injuries. In other words, adverse reactions for this period exceeded half a million! (National Vaccine Information Centre, March 2, 1994)

• In 1990, the Journal of the American Medical Association had an article on measles which stated " Although more than 95% of school-aged children in the US are vaccinated against measles, large measles outbreaks continue to occur in schools and most cases in this setting occur among previously vaccinated children." (JAMA, 21/11/90)

• In the New England Journal of Medicine July 1994 issue a study found that over 80% of children under 5 years of age who had contracted whooping cough had been fully vaccinated.

• On November 2nd, 2000, the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) announced that its members voted at their 57th annual meeting in St Louis to pass a resolution calling for an end to mandatory childhood vaccines. The resolution passed without a single "no" vote.http://www.wellnesschiro.com/physicians_grou...
(Report by Michael Devitt)

Source:https://web.archive.org/web/20020406....com/web2.html

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Death toll linked to Gardasil Vaccines Rises

https://gdsajj.wordpress.com/death-t...vaccine-rises/

The Case Against Vaccination
https://web.archive.org/web/20160305...rallytalk.html

THE FRAUD OF VACCINATION
https://web.archive.org/web/20160112...nmagazine.html

Thanks for supporting my point.

If one is gonna be anti-vaccine, or opposed to vaccination, own it.

Why attempt to distinguish between vaccines when they are all so similar in their benefits and risks?

If one is opposed, give'r - with some consistency

Weren't you administering the vaccine and unaware of the the safety data sheet, and mistakenly though Comirnaty was available in Canada? It doesn't seem like the bar is very high for who they allow to do that.

Nope.

I'm gladly opposed to bioweapons. I think you should be paying the funeral bills of the next of kin who died from the fraudulent science that you defend, and the medical bills of the permanently vaccine disabled. The same entities that push the shots are the same fascists who insist we all believe that vitamins, minerals, and herbs "don't do nuthin", and the FDA will shut down and send SWAT teams to supplement manufacturers if they dare disobey these fascist laws. While it's perfectly ok for them to lie on TV saying grains are "hearth healthy", deadly drugs like Vioxx and Fosamax. All lies cut from the same cloth by the same bioterrorists, and you LOVE it.

For thousands of years, people survived without Ritalin, and ********.

So your take is that if someone opposes Covid vaccines they should oppose all vaccines. Interesting.

My point is that it seems reasonable for one to evaluate their objections and compare those objections to things they "don't oppose". It seems reasonable, to me, to have consistent criterion.

For example: "long-term" data before approval, sterilizing immunity (100% effectiveness), some/any knowledge of aquired/adaptive immunity.

I'd say this statement is fact (despite not knowing what's censored).

a d d e r a l l

I like that you classify all vaccines as bioweapons. That shows consistency.

I vehemently disagree with your opinion. But I very much appreciate you owning your position.

Before I agree to pay funeral bills I'd need much more tractable criterion for "next of kin who died from the fraudulent science". That sounds very broad and expensive.