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Thread: 50 year old vaccinated & boosted actor dies from (likely) covid

post 1696437323 01-15-2024, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I find it helpful to read a study, even a pre-print, before submitting it as support
Results of the study are the same regardless of what you choose to believe..
post 1696438863 01-15-2024, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Results of the study are the same regardless of what you choose to believe..
Originally Posted By Paul
Over a year..in the control group..
Which line(s) support that claim?

It's a pre-print and the lines are numbered.
post 1696440553 01-15-2024, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted By dakensta⏩
Cliffs of thrad:
50 year old actor, who OP imagines is "strongly likely" to have been vaxxed and boostered, dies from what OP thinks was "likely" covid.
Have I missed anything?
Mind you, we know he was vaccinated and boosted because of SAG and I am speculating he died of covid due to comments made by his fiancé. So, there is strong reason for both.
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post 1696441023 01-15-2024, 05:53 PM
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I'd be interested to know if he died from effects of the vaccine.



Because, if so, this would be the first time in human history a vaccine has caused a death due to long-term effects and it would literally rewrite our knowledge of immunology and vaccinology.
Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
post 1696441413 01-15-2024, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
I'd be interested to know if he died from effects of the vaccine.

Because, if so, this would be the first time in human history a vaccine has caused a death due to long-term effects and it would literally rewrite our knowledge of immunology and vaccinology.
Directly, nothing we know (even second hand) would suggest the vaccine did this -- unless repeated vaccines and boosters, as some Doctors speculate, over time are weakening people's immune systems and their specific response to covid.

I do sense some people are nervous or upset at the potential implications of a younger healthy appearing guy dying of a disease he was repeatedly vaccinated and boosted over, though. One where it's selling point has repeatedly been goal-shifted and pushed back, currently to just being something that reduces symptoms, which does not seem to have happened here in the least. Almost as if it did the opposite, which the idea of that alone seems to make some people very uncomfortable.
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post 1696441703 01-15-2024, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
I'd be interested to know if he died from effects of the vaccine.



Because, if so, this would be the first time in human history a vaccine has caused a death due to long-term effects and it would literally rewrite our knowledge of immunology and vaccinology.
Wouldn’t necessarily be “longterm” if he’d recently gotten a booster shot. Kind of like this guy…gets boosted, gets very “sick” within two weeks, tests negative for Covid, heart blows up and kills him.


https://bloodyelbow.com/2024/01/09/g...well-miss-you/



tweet below the "update" is conveniently missing context:



post 1696442253 01-15-2024, 06:17 PM
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Anybody dies with covid detectable in their system - comorbidities and poor choices lead to poor health outcomes

Anybody dies after receiving a covid vaccine, at any point in time - vaccines cause death.

Really?
post 1696442603 01-15-2024, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Which line(s) support that claim?

It's a pre-print and the lines are numbered.
Figure 3..shows spike protein floating around after 15 months.

As a result, Patterson made another publication:

https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-1844677/v1

SARS-CoV-2 S1 Protein Persistence in SARS-CoV-2 Negative Post-Vaccination Individuals with Long COVID/ PASC-Like Symptoms

In this paper, figure 2 shows that 'Control' patients do have S1 floating around, although they try to push that it's lower than in long-covid sufferers, it should be zero in the 'healthy controls', though.
post 1696442723 01-15-2024, 06:24 PM
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I suked my own dik last night, it tasted like skittles
post 1696442873 01-15-2024, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
A government funded job, that made you get two booster shots? And let me guess, if you suffered negative side effects, they're not liable?
Just the one booster, and no significant side effects. They didn't actually force me to do anything, so they wouldn't be liable, they politely gave me the option to quit if I didn't want to keep working under their rules. Fair enough.
post 1696444243 01-15-2024, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Figure 3..shows spike protein floating around after 15 months.

As a result, Patterson made another publication:

https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-1844677/v1

SARS-CoV-2 S1 Protein Persistence in SARS-CoV-2 Negative Post-Vaccination Individuals with Long COVID/ PASC-Like Symptoms

In this paper, figure 2 shows that 'Control' patients do have S1 floating around, although they try to push that it's lower than in long-covid sufferers, it should be zero in the 'healthy controls', though.
Which line(s)?
post 1696444463 01-15-2024, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Which line(s)?
Figure 3

nice attempt to pigeon hole..but we both know the game you are playing lol

see 1h29m30s ...
https://www.bitchute.com/video/AwJ21uzUPkhm/

Person who knows most about spike and where it is in the body and how long it lasts is Bruce Patterson"
"As far as he can tell, it doesn't get out of the body"
"Still waiting for someone to take a vaccine and be shown to be clear of messenger RNA and spike protein"
post 1696444513 01-15-2024, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Anybody dies with covid detectable in their system - comorbidities and poor choices lead to poor health outcomes

Anybody dies after receiving a covid vaccine, at any point in time - vaccines cause death.

Really?
Statistically those who died of/with covid:

- Average age of 78
- 80% were obese or grossly obese
- On average 2.8 comorbidities

Sorry those facts bother you so very much.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

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post 1696444763 01-15-2024, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Figure 3

nice attempt to pigeon hole..but we both know the game you are playing lol

see 1h29m30s ...

Person who knows most about spike and where it is in the body and how long it lasts is Bruce Patterson"
"As far as he can tell, it doesn't get out of the body"
"Still waiting for someone to take a vaccine and be shown to be clear of messenger RNA and spike protein"
Bitchute isn't referenced in the original paper you shared.

Which lines are you referencing in your claim?

Accurate citations are important these days
post 1696444793 01-15-2024, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Bitchute isn't referenced in the original paper you shared
Citation needed stating I claimed it was...

nice edit..

It stays there as long as the mRNA is active in the cells, and as it is in the DNA of the cells, it is active until the cell dies, which is up to a ~ 7 year span.

The spike endures...
Here for over 4 months:

https://imgur.com/a/o27r2tD

The IGG4 class switch is caused by permanent presence of the spikes. It gets worse and worse as time goes by...

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36548397/
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
Statistically those who died of/with covid:

- Average age of 78
- 80% were obese or grossly obese
- On average 2.8 comorbidities

Sorry those facts bother you so very much.
Can you share the cite?
post 1696444863 01-15-2024, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Can you share the cite?
stop editing your posts
post 1696444913 01-15-2024, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
stop editing your posts
Which line(s) in the pre-print you posted?
post 1696444963 01-15-2024, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Which line(s)?
Figure 3..as I've explained many times now
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Originally Posted By Paul
stop editing your posts
Take it as a good sign. When he is furiously rapid-fire editing his posts you know he’s flustered.
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Originally Posted By Paul
Citation needed stating I claimed it was...

nice edit..

It stays there as long as the mRNA is active in the cells, and as it is in the DNA of the cells, it is active until the cell dies, which is up to a ~ 7 year span.

The spike endures...
Here for over 4 months:

The IGG4 class switch is caused by permanent presence of the spikes. It gets worse and worse as time goes by...

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36548397/
Not the paper you shared.
post 1696445133 01-15-2024, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Not the paper you shared.
No chit lol...it is another paper supporting the argument.
post 1696445153 01-15-2024, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Take it as a good sign. When he is furiously rapid-fire editing his posts you know he’s flustered.
Gotta love how posts by those who support the narrative aren't reviewed.
post 1696445263 01-15-2024, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Gotta love how posts by those who support the narrative aren't reviewed.
Gotta love how a self proclaimed "scientist" is unable to comprehend a simple study
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Can you share the cite?
After close to four years you don't know this???
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
It boggles the mind that miscers still try to argue with Justin's Little Cuck in an intellectually honest manner.

Just neg the shill and move on.
I give out too many reps that by the time I want to neg someone, I've used them all up
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Originally Posted By Paul
No chit lol...it is another paper supporting the argument.
You made a claim and attempted to attribute that claim to the paper you posted.

When informed the paper you posted does not support the claim your response is "no chit lol".

Am I correct that this approach to discussion is considered "intellectually honest"?
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Originally Posted By Paul
I give out too many reps that by the time I want to neg someone, I've used them all up
Your most recent neg is near the top of my CP
post 1696445723 01-15-2024, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
You made a claim and attempted to attribute that claim to the paper you posted.

When informed the paper you posted does not support the claim your response is "no chit lol".

Am I correct that this approach to discussion is considered "intellectually honest"?
I told you where to look 3 times now in the initial paper, I then gave you two other references that supported the claim. The only one being dishonest is you by continuing to ask.."which line"..when it is clear in Figure 3
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Your most recent neg is near the top of my CP
That was from awhile ago, but thank you for showing it was well deserved by your comments ITT
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Originally Posted By Paul
I told you where to look 3 times now in the initial paper, I then gave you two other references that supported the claim. The only one being dishonest is you by continuing to ask.."which line"..when it is clear in Figure 3
You posted this:
Originally Posted By Paul
Persistence of SARS CoV-2 S1 Protein in CD16+ Monocytes in Post-Acute Sequelae of COVID-19 (PASC) Up to 15 Months Post-Infection

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...905v1.full.pdf



"healthy controls" (vaxxed) showed spike for over a year..



"healthy controls" (vaxxed) showed spike for over a year..

Which line(s) reflect what you claim is in the paper?

I don't get how/why this is considered intellectually honest
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