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Originally Posted By Paul
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Which line(s)?

Just lol

You've gravitated away from meaningful debate, now it's just "Oh so you think Covid never killed anyone at all?!! WHAT. Everyone vaccinated is dead?? ORLY?" trying to put words in people's mouths, then if someone responds and puts some nuance or explanation to their stance you grossly misstate, you just ignore it.

Btw, on Wincel saying unvaccinated are incubators for new variants:

Very dumb take. One, vaccination does not keep anyone from getting anything. They incubate just the same, and, if anything, if the vaccine has some temporary protective properties, someone vaccinated getting it, they would be a much greater incubator for new more vaccine-resistant variants. How does someone who is usually so very well-versed on subjects get that so wrong and just parrot broken propaganda? You want to look into this one on your own, if you even care about being right or not.
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Only one booster??? What the hell did he expect? He should be on his 5th by now!!!

And if he wasnt vaxxed, then he would have just died sooner. He should thank Pfizer for the extra 2.5 years that he got.

But sorry, there are no refunds.
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Originally Posted By JUSA
You've gravitated away from meaningful debate, now it's just "Oh so you think Covid never killed anyone at all?!! WHAT. Everyone vaccinated is dead?? ORLY?" trying to put words in people's mouths, then if someone responds and puts some nuance or explanation to their stance you grossly misstate, you just ignore it.
He doesn’t gravitate away from meaningful discussion because he was never engaged in it in the first place. All he does is troll, deflect, build strawmen, and sh!tpost. It’s always been known to an extent, but becomes even more apparent when you realize he does it even in threads where he agrees with the original post or theme of the thread. Take the red meat/diabetes thread. He sh!t posted about semantics for pages on end even though he agrees the study was absolutely trash. He has zero desire for meaningful conversation and all intentions of just irritating people. It’s entertaining sometimes just to quickly point out the flaws of his “views”(in quotation marks because it’s pretty likely he doesn’t even hold the views he argues for on here), but best to not take him seriously at all.



Btw, on Wincel saying unvaccinated are incubators for new variants:

Very dumb take. One, vaccination does not keep anyone from getting anything. They incubate just the same, and, if anything, if the vaccine has some temporary protective properties, someone vaccinated getting it, they would be a much greater incubator for new more vaccine-resistant variants. How does someone who is usually so very well-versed on subjects get that so wrong and just parrot broken propaganda? You want to look into this one on your own, if you even care about being right or not.
Wincel doesn’t care about being right, or at least not in the since most people think when they hear that term. He is 100% completely and totally demoralized when it comes to this subject. And I think it shows just how effective the propaganda campaign has been, because on some other topics he’s shown the ability to be more nuanced.
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Originally Posted By latverian41
Well for one i don't gloat nor do I make fun of other people's misery.

At the end of the day it's tour body to role the dice with. I could end up dying from covid and then you could gloat and say I told you so. But
You don't seem.like the type that gloats either.
And that's where you're wrong..

"Doctor"wincel here has had absolutely no problem saying all the people who refused the sacred Fauci Fluid injections should be rounded up an put into concentration camps and that he would happily celebrate their deaths.

Isn't that right....doctor
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Originally Posted By JUSA
You've gravitated away from meaningful debate, now it's just "Oh so you think Covid never killed anyone at all?!! WHAT. Everyone vaccinated is dead?? ORLY?" trying to put words in people's mouths, then if someone responds and puts some nuance or explanation to their stance you grossly misstate, you just ignore it.
It's interesting how those who support the narrative can make things up without a comment nor concern from the crew

The paper demonstrates presence of spike in people with long covid.

Paul put it forward as "vaccines bad". My asking for clarification on how the claim is supported is moving away from meaningful debate?

Paul's approach is intellectually honest and in the interest of meaningful discussion?

Did you read the paper? Do you feel it supports Paul's claim?

It demonstrates risks and harms from infection, not vaccination. It's not a good paper.

Do you see where it says all healthy controls were vaccinated? Do you see where it says those vaccinated healthy control had spike circulating after 15 months? Where?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
I Heart Covid!
You really do, don't you. I mean you really really love the shiit out of it!
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster
And that's where you're wrong..

"Doctor"wincel here has had absolutely no problem saying all the people who refused the sacred Fauci Fluid injections should be rounded up an put into concentration camps and that he would happily celebrate their deaths.

Isn't that right....doctor
I think you have me confused with someone else bro

And if you choose to gloat over other people's misery that is your misfortune.

Sounds like a great character trait to pass on.
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Originally Posted By latverian41
I think you have me confused with someone else bro

And if you choose to gloat over other people's misery that is your misfortune.

Sounds like a great character trait to pass on.
No, I was talking about the poster you were replying to, "Antifascist"

We all know him as wincel - a known troll with literally dozens of alts who is not to be taken seriously in any discussion.
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At least he doesn’t have to worry about leaving behind a legacy as an “anti-vaxxer” in death. Lololol.
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster
And that's where you're wrong..

"Doctor"wincel here has had absolutely no problem saying all the people who refused the sacred Fauci Fluid injections should be rounded up an put into concentration camps and that he would happily celebrate their deaths.

Isn't that right....doctor
Well, when you've been a frail, sorry sack of **** all your life, who was probably picked on by the kids in band camp, you have fantasies of being in power, and taking the lives of others.

Or you have other delusions of grander and claim that you have Olympic level genetics, a PHD, and make 200k a year.....
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
Well, when you've been a frail, sorry sack of **** all your life, who was probably picked on by the kids in band camp, you have fantasies of being in power, and taking the lives of others.

Oryou have other delusions of grander and claim that you have Olympic level genetics, a PHD, and make 200k a year.....
LMAO!! "Or" nothing - wincel has made all those claims before lol..

Homebound incel, never had a job, lives with his dad because he can't function in life....And nowall of a sudden, PhD, two-minute half mile run time, and $200k a day CEO scientist. Impressive transformation is impressive.

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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
It's interesting...
I don't know about you and Paul, I stopped following your debates when you showed bad faith with me personally, repeatedly.

In general, you pretend there was no overwhelming false narrative during the pandemic which grossly inflated what covid was and who was threatened by it. Then, and you've done this with me, when I simply point out what we now know in hindsight - you pretend I am taking some exaggerated hyperbolic position.

Then: Covid is killing 3% who get it, massive threat to the population, etc
Now: We know it primarily is killing elderly, sickly and obese

When I state this, you've played the, "So you don't think covid is a threat to anyone and never killed anyone and is not even real?????" load of horsechit.

Somehow, someone simply acknowledging howwrongpeople had it and then correctly restating the actual now known truth - that is highly offensive to you for some reason. And, if you want to play the game where you make up bullchit to attribute to people in an effort to diminish their actual beliefs, you have fun with that but don't then try and do as you did w/ that post and pretend you've been reasonable and objective about things the whole time.
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Originally Posted By JUSA
I don't know about you and Paul, I stopped following your debates when you showed bad faith with me personally, repeatedly.

In general, you pretend there was no overwhelming false narrative during the pandemic which grossly inflated what covid was and who was threatened by it. Then, and you've done this with me, when I simply point out what we now know in hindsight - you pretend I am taking some exaggerated hyperbolic position.

Then: Covid is killing 3% who get it, massive threat to the population, etc
Now: We know it primarily is killing elderly, sickly and obese

When I state this, you've played the, "So you don't think covid is a threat to anyone and never killed anyone and is not even real?????" load of horsechit.

Somehow, someone simply acknowledging howwrongpeople had it and then correctly restating the actual now known truth - that is highly offensive to you for some reason. And, if you want to play the game where you make up bullchit to attribute to people in an effort to diminish their actual beliefs, you have fun with thatbut don't then try and do as you did w/ that post and pretend you've been reasonable and objective about things the whole time.
He's a fuking shill bro.

Sent here bysomebodyfor the purpose of all covid - all the time. Refused to admit that he was being paid to shill for it though, but then just last week tried to allege that he was some sort of covid scientist or some shiit.

How TF else would you explain his sick obsession with it though?
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Originally Posted By JUSA
I don't know about you and Paul, I stopped following your debates when you showed bad faith with me personally, repeatedly.

In general, you pretend there was no overwhelming false narrative during the pandemic which grossly inflated what covid was and who was threatened by it. Then, and you've done this with me, when I simply point out what we now know in hindsight - you pretend I am taking some exaggerated hyperbolic position.

Then: Covid is killing 3% who get it, massive threat to the population, etc
Now: We know it primarily is killing elderly, sickly and obese

When I state this, you've played the, "So you don't think covid is a threat to anyone and never killed anyone and is not even real?????" load of horsechit.

Somehow, someone simply acknowledging howwrongpeople had it and then correctly restating the actual now known truth - that is highly offensive to you for some reason. And, if you want to play the game where you make up bullchit to attribute to people in an effort to diminish their actual beliefs, you have fun with that but don't then try and do as you did w/ that post and pretend you've been reasonable and objective about things the whole time.
You jumped in on the discussion between Paul and I and quoted my post to him.

So when someone who supports the narrative completely misrepresents a paper to support said narrative, that's considered good faith?

When someone who questions the narrative seeks clarification on the evidence presented in support, that person is making things up?

Evidence is not required by those who support the narrative.

Very specific evidence is required of those who question the narrative and any evidence presented is (ridiculously) rejected.

Seems odd to me. But okay



(Just lol)
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
You jumped in on the discussion between Paul and I and quoted my post to him.

So when someone who supports the narrative completely misrepresents a paper to support said narrative, that's considered good faith?

When someone who questions the narrative seeks clarification on the evidence presented in support, that person is making things up?

Evidence is not required by those who support the narrative.

Very specific evidence is required of those who question the narrative and any evidence presented is (ridiculously) rejected.

Seems odd to me. But okay



(Just lol)
People post that 80% of those who died were obese, majority were elderly with numerous prey existing conditions, and your reply?

Hurr Durr show me the link......

BTW, it's been about two to three weeks since you fear mongered about the side effects of "LOOOOOOONG COVID!!!"
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
People post that 80% of those who died were obese, majority were elderly with numerous prey existing conditions, and your reply?

Hurr Durr show me the link......

BTW, it's been about two to three weeks since you fear mongered about the side effects of "LOOOOOOONG COVID!!!"
But, any discussion of long covid requires supporting evidence, yeah?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
But, any discussion of long covid requires supporting evidence, yeah?
And preferably better evidence than someone on an internet survey(with zero data validation) saying they had a headache 2 years after they got covid.



Everyone knows the average age of someone who dies from covid is old as fukk cuz. Don’t really need a link to confirm what everyone already knows.
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Originally Posted By Antifascist
Vaccination reduces convalescence time. So, no. You really are an incubator. Also, the vaccines are designed in response to circulating strains, and the mutation chances would increase with time spent sick, so the "selection" argument is moot. Mass vaccination minimizes the risk of mutation. People extremely well versed in the subject, who teach it for a living and do research and who you had no problem with for decades until your favorite political leaders made a stink about it, recommend vaccination. Even your favorite president recommended vaccination.
Why did this actor die again?
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
And preferably better evidence than someone on an internet survey(with zero data validation) saying they had a headache 2 years after they got covid.
Right.

But, any introduction of additional/newer support is handily dismissed without review.

If someone says "look this study shows vaccinated people have spike in their blood after 12 months - it's in this paper!". It's perfectly fine that the claim is not at all addressed within the paper. All that matters is that the poster supports the narrative.

Any concerns about the paper used to support the claim? Nope!


Just lol

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So covid took a gun to his head and shot him. And arranged the scene to look like a suicide.

Damn thing's really mutated.
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Originally Posted By saltypits
So covid took a gun to his head and shot him. And arranged the scene to look like a suicide.

Damn thing's really mutated.
Nah, bro, the hydrogel nanomachines in the vaxx made him shoot himself against his own will.
Probably got him drunk and drugged up too. It's the perfect murder.
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Originally Posted By JUSA
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...202457918.html



Details of death are not in the article, oddly enough, but it's being said by those close to him - covid. Keep in mind SAG made vaccinations and being up to date on boosters mandatory if you want to work, so it's also strongly likely he was vaccinated and up to date on boosters.

Safe and effective?
"Alec Musser's cause of death revealed: All My Children star and fitness model died by suicide from a self-inflicted gunshot aged 50"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...d-suicide.html

What did you mean by "safe and effective"?

Something about guns?
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
Why did this actor die again?
Suicide.
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All My Children' star Alec Musser died by suicide — not COVID

Soap star was found 'slumped over on their bathroom floor ... with a firearm near him as well,' TMZ reports

https://canoe.com/entertainment/cele...a-347558714f97
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Originally Posted By WetCoaster
All My Children' star Alec Musser died by suicide — not COVID

Soap star was found 'slumped over on their bathroom floor ... with a firearm near him as well,' TMZ reports

https://canoe.com/entertainment/cele...a-347558714f97
Wonder how the rumor got out? I bit on it well enough, although did note it was speculation, still I'll own to jumping prematurely to things to the degree I did (which, this thread, it's title about it being 'likely' and such). OP has been updated with correction.

What's crazy, the article you link goes out of it's way to mention it's not covid, so that rumor was fairly wide spread - allegedly the guy's fiancé, maybe just trying to cover for his death and made something up about covid?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
It's interesting how those who support the narrative can make things up without a comment nor concern from the crew

The paper demonstrates presence of spike in people with long covid.

Paul put it forward as "vaccines bad". My asking for clarification on how the claim is supported is moving away from meaningful debate?

Paul's approach is intellectually honest and in the interest of meaningful discussion?

Did you read the paper? Do you feel it supports Paul's claim?

It demonstrates risks and harms from infection, not vaccination. It's not a good paper.

Do you see where it says all healthy controls were vaccinated? Do you see where it says those vaccinated healthy control had spike circulating after 15 months? Where?
Paper shows circulation of spike protein in vaccinated for over a year..I also posted a follow up paper by the same author showing the same.(4 months, & worsening as time goes by)But keep lying, at this point you have become comical.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36548397/
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Same goes for SV40 in the vaccine, we all know the relation between cancer & SV40 at this point..so why is it in the vaccines?


PfizerVector from an EMA document.

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Originally Posted By Paul
Paper shows circulation of spike protein in vaccinated for over a year..I also posted a follow up paper by the same author showing the same.(4 months, & worsening as time goes by)But keep lying, at this point you have become comical.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36548397/
I guess posting a different paper and ignoring what you posted initially is considered intellectually honest.

Also, the one you just posted is about class-switching. It does not report on presence of (viral or vaccine-encoded) spike over time. It reports on antibody titres.

#GoodFaith




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