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Thread: JLC on Suicide Watch: Doctors were bribed to push vaccines

post 1697133553 01-29-2024, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Much of what you post is true, but not anti-vaxx by any stretch. Get the flu vaxx every year, got the shingles vaxx, etc.

Evaluate all of your decisions in the environment you're currently in boyo. Circumstances/environments change and those changes can and should impact your decision making.
That’s the point, pretty much none of us here are anti-vaxxers. We just evaluated the environment and circumstances and decided the best path was to not get any Covid injections. That doesn’t make a person an anti-vaxxer….that’s just another example of weaponizing language to attack those who go against the narrative.


Agree 100% with the 2nd part of your post though.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Yes.

Companies sponsor events with lump sums. The level of funding is tied to presence of the company logo, speakers, acknowledgements in the program, etc.

The listed funding isn't exclusively for conferences, obviously.

But, the point remains - the things skeptics "uncover" mostly just demonstrate ignorance and/or inexperience

Speakers, slides and banners are 200k-$500k


Can you source that please

Are you willfully ignorant..or just lying as always?
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
I don't get how you were allowed to administer vaccines that you haven't read the manufacturer's fact sheet for.

Still lulzy tho

There should be laws in place for such incompetence and gross negligence.
post 1697133713 01-29-2024, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
That’s the point, pretty much none of us here are anti-vaxxers. We just evaluated the environment and circumstances and decided the best path was to not get any Covid injections. That doesn’t make a person an anti-vaxxer….that’s just another example of weaponizing language to attack those who go against the narrative.


Agree 100% with the 2nd part of your post though.
But, when the reasoning behind being anti-covid vaccine are applicable to all vaccines, doesn't it make sense to evaluate one's position?
post 1697133753 01-29-2024, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Speakers, slides and banners are 200k-$500k


Can you source that please

Are you willfully ignorant..or just lying as always?
You just said you have no personal experience with any of this
post 1697133783 01-29-2024, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
I don't get how you were allowed to administer vaccines that you haven't read the manufacturer's fact sheet for.

Still lulzy tho

It's a cool story that seems to serve whatever cause you may have.

Although the "discovery" is more in line with above.


post 1697133803 01-29-2024, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
You just said you have no personal experience with any of this
I'm gonna need that source for, slides, and banners ranging from 200-500k now...
post 1697133833 01-29-2024, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
I'm gonna need that source for, slides, and banners ranging from 200-500k now...
You want accounting details for a conference?

Go get some
post 1697133903 01-29-2024, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
You want accounting details for a conference?

Go get some
You were the one that made the claim..I'm just asking you to provide a source on that
post 1697134043 01-29-2024, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
You were the one that made the claim..I'm just asking you to provide a source on that
My claim was that companies sponsor events. They just do.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...bstract/348041

https://idweek.org/industry/

https://idweek.org/wp-content/upload...tus_080823.pdf




post 1697134163 01-29-2024, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
My claim was that companies sponsor events. They just do.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...bstract/348041
That's a nice slide...I posted specific numbers showing Pfizer donating up to $500k to over 400 Medical Organizations..you claimed that was conference cost..typicaly banners and slides...I'd like you to provide a source on that
post 1697134213 01-29-2024, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
That's a nice slide...I posted specific numbers showing Pfizer donating up to $500k to over 400 Medical Organizations..you claimed that was conference cost..typicaly banners and slides...I'd like you to provide a source on that
it's not a slide. You have the website and the source pdf linked. None of this stuff is new.

It's the published documentation for sponsoring the annual infectious disease conference.

Just lol


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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
I don't get how it's a "cool story" when you literally admitted it.

Still lulzy tho

Making things up is sometimes called fiction.

Sometimes funny, sometimes flattering, always lulzy


post 1697134373 01-29-2024, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
it's not a slide. You have the website and the source pdf linked. None of this stuff is new.

It's the published documentation for sponsoring the annual infectious disease conference.

Just lol


Looks like the most is 70k..that's a far stretch from 200-500k

It was a good attempt though


I'll ask again..you really don't think these "donations"and sponsored events come with an expected incentive to use their products...?




You do realize these sponsored events are for conferences of several medical organizations..my document shows single party pay out..
post 1697134483 01-29-2024, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Looks like the most is 70k..that's a far stretch from 200-500k

It was a good attempt though


I'll ask again..you really don't think these "donations" come with an expected incentive to use their products...?
They hope the exposure will have influence, of course. It's like advertising.

They don't get the money back if sales don't go as planned.

How can this be new information?

Do y'all think through these things, at all?

Just


lol



post 1697134623 01-29-2024, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
They hope the exposure will have influence, of course. It's like advertising.

They don't get the money back if sales don't go as planned.

How can this be new information?

Do y'all think through these things, at all?

Just


lol



AGAIN..the most you've come up with is a 70k spending cost..my document shows 200-500k single payout per Medical Organization..


Are you thinking this through?? LOOOL

You are fukin hilarious. True slider
post 1697134653 01-29-2024, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Looks like the most is 70k..that's a far stretch from 200-500k

It was a good attempt though


I'll ask again..you really don't think these "donations"and sponsored events come with an expected incentive to use their products...?




You do realize these sponsored events are for conferences of several medical organizations..my document shows single party pay out..
It’s already been proven that pharmaceutical companies have a long track record of bending and BREAKING the rules with regards to paying doctors for pushing their drugs. He knows this. He’s just trolling as usual.
post 1697134733 01-29-2024, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
It’s already been proven that pharmaceutical companies have a long track record of bending and BREAKING the rules with regards to paying doctors for pushing their drugs. He knows this. He’s just trolling as usual.
Of course he does..brb, "donate" 300k to Medical Organization..but it's NOT an incentive to push our products doc. Promise
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Originally Posted By Paul
AGAIN..the most you've come up with is a 70k spending cost..my document shows 200-500k single payout per Medical Organization..


Are you thinking this through?? LOOOL

You are fukin hilarious. True slider
I dunno what a "slider" is.

You posted a funding document, on letterhead. Pfizer is clearly not trying to keep anything a secret because it's standard practice. Not just pharma, equipment manufacturers, office supplies, patient management software companies - it's the industry.


Your lack of awareness, experience, and context does not a gotcha make.

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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
It’s already been proven that pharmaceutical companies have a long track record of bending and BREAKING the rules with regards to paying doctors for pushing their drugs. He knows this. He’s just trolling as usual.
The OP is about an insurance company offering incentives to encourage vaccination in their subscribers.

Absolute refusal to discuss that. Why?

Such honesty, such discussion.


Such lulz


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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I dunno what a "slider" is.

You posted a funding document, on letterhead. Pfizer is clearly not trying to keep anything a secret because it's standard practice. Not just pharma, equipment manufacturers, office supplies, patient management software companies - it's the industry.


Your lack of awareness, experience, and context does not a gotcha make.

So Pfizer is donating 200k-500k per Medical Organization as the cost of doing business but has no incentive motivation for said organization to use their products?


Are you willfully ignorant..or just lying as always?
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Originally Posted By Paul
So Pfizer is donating 200k-500k per Medical Organization as the cost of doing business but has no incentive motivation for said organization to use their products?


Are you willfully ignorant..or just lying as always?
https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...33&pagenumber=

Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
The thread seems to suggestwe should be highly skeptical of, and perhaps reject, products made by pharmaceutical companies.

I agree.
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Originally Posted By Paul
So Pfizer is donating 200k-500k per Medical Organization as the cost of doing business but has no incentive motivation for said organization to use their products?


Are you willfully ignorant..or just lying as always?
I just said there is clear motivation.

Are there refunds available on those donations? Have they ever taken money back? With the decline in vaccine sales and stock price going down, surely they are asking for refunds. That would be a gotcha.



Just



lol



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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
LOL, should I go back and count the times you mentioned me in your posts over the last six months you frauding loser. It's way way way more than 13 you dumb phuk. I can see why your wife and daughter hate you now. And at least 10 of my posts were in response to pics you throw up because you enjoy whacking your pathetic meat to what only your dumb ass actually thinks is me.

You are seriously obsessed with me boyo and it's beyond creepy. Try spending more of your energy on your family. Maybe they won't be so embarrassed of your constant lies and attention whoring on a dying fitness board.

Psycho.
I post your pic in response to you constantly stalking me. And in my one and only real written response to you a few days ago, I made it very clear that after your ban was lifted, you posted here for 2-3 weeks and I did not say one word to you. Not one. But, for reasons unknown but more than likely just because you are just a lonely person who craves drama and attention, you chose to respond to a post of mine that was in no way directed towards you nor was your name even mentioned. And not only did you personally insult myself in that post but also my family.

So, as I said....Here We Go. You have proven that you cannot leave me alone like I had left you so therefore I have no reason or inclination to not post a pic of you washing a black man's feet.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I just said there is clear motivation.

Are there refunds available on those donations? Have they ever taken money back? With the decline in vaccine sales and stock price going down, surely they are asking for refunds. That would be a gotcha.



Just



lol



Oh so there is motivation, okay. So we have established the fact Pharmaceutical companies "donate" to Health Organizations with the incentive of their products being used..up to the amount of $8 million dollars...that seems legit.

Why would they need a refund..seems the vaccines are still being pushed..as with all their new one's for "turbo cancer" are coming out.

Yes. Just lol, indeed.
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Originally Posted By Paul
Oh so there is motivation, okay. So we have established the fact Pharmaceutical companies "donate" to Health Organizations with the incentive of their products being used..up to the amount of $8 million dollars...that seems legit.

Why would they need a refund..seems the vaccines are still being pushed..as with all their new one's for "turbo cancer" are coming out.

Yes. Just lol, indeed.
If you feel companies should have no interaction with customers or professionals, that's legit.

Do you feel that should be applied broadly?

Bar physiotherapy equipment manufacturers from sponsoring annual conferences?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
If you feel companies should have no interaction with customers or professionals, that's legit.

Do you feel that should be applied broadly?
How is a proposal for non-interaction equivalent to donating vast amounts of large sums of money to push products even remotely comparable?


Slide attempt fail lol

Looks like I mispoke on these "donations" ranging up to 500k..after skimming the release it looks like we are up to 7-8 MILLION dollars...for slides and banners
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Originally Posted By Paul
How is a proposal for non-interaction equivalent to donating vast amounts of large sums of money to push products even remotely comparable?


Slide attempt fail lol

Looks like I mispoke on these "donations" ranging up to 500k..after skimming the release it looks like we are up to 7-8 MILLION dollars...for slides and banners
It's a transparent list of where they donated. I honestly don't know what you think it reveals other calculated/strategic tax write-offs. It's on their letterhead.


Just lol

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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
It's a transparent list of where they donated. I honestly don't know what you think it reveals. It's on their letterhead.


Just lol

Yes, it's very transparent lol..I agree

Unlike you, I just don't believe slides and banners cost up to $8 MILLION dollars

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The fact is most of these drugs that get pushed on people are because the doctors get extra money from the pharms to push them and sell them.

I already talked about the fact that my sister was a pharm rep for Claritin and got all kinds of perks and gave them out as well to doctors who sold the allergy drug.

I trained race horses for 22 years and regularly had vet bills in the $1000s each week, and I learned very quickly which drugs or procedures were needed and which ones were just being pushed on me as an owner/trainer because the vet got kickbacks for selling them. I was told many times for example by a vet named Dr. Kim B that he would get bonus $$ from the pharm companies if he sold a certain amount of xxx drug every month.

It's all a big scam.

So now you have perhaps the biggest scam disease ever in modern times in covid, a worldwide thing.......of course these pharma companies are going to push them onto people. It's all about the $$$.
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