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post 1697345853 02-02-2024, 08:30 PM
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Lulzy to see the dude who makes money off jab programs had the usual boatload of responses. I have him on ignore. Anything he wrote that wasn't grasping at straws?
Yeah Buddyyy! Light weight! Light weight baby!!!!
post 1697346893 02-02-2024, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Sorry to hear that, mane
Its okay. Listening to experts allows me to spend my time productively. My doctor, my lawyer, my mechanic, my plumber. When my plumber told me my sink was clogged i took it as fact rather than enroll in a trade school and check his work. To each his own i suppose
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post 1697347933 02-02-2024, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel
Its okay. Listening to experts allows me to spend my time productively. My doctor, my lawyer, my mechanic, my plumber. When my plumber told me my sink was clogged i took it as fact rather than enroll in a trade school and check his work. To each his own i suppose
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post 1697353333 02-03-2024, 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
even when they explicitly reference things like calculations
Don't your "calculations" frequently involve erroneously moving decimals around, in whichever way you find convenient to your "argument"?
post 1697354093 02-03-2024, 05:16 AM
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Covid disrespect with it's white knight savior inbound in 5... 4.... 3... 2...
Originally Posted By J.L.C.
I Heart Covid!
"Don't worry covid, I'm coming! I'll defend you!"

It's a hot night. The mind races. You think about your knife: the only friend who hasn't betrayed you, the only friend who won't be dead by sunup. Sleep tight mates, in your quilted chambray night shirts.
post 1697357823 02-03-2024, 08:23 AM
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Seat belts injure millions of people every year, but we still require everyone use them because the possible outcome of a situation where you would need them is so incredibly bad.

That seems like analogous logic, but I don't know how the absolute risk of car wreck compares with serious covid illness. It's definitely out there and has claimed millions of lives...
post 1697410823 02-04-2024, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted By GreatOldOne
Seat belts injure millions of people every year, but we still require everyone use them because the possible outcome of a situation where you would need them is so incredibly bad.

That seems like analogous logic, but I don't know how the absolute risk of car wreck compares with serious covid illness. It's definitely out there and has claimed millions of lives...
When seat belts injure people, they almost always do so while in the process of preventing a more serious injury. That isn’t the case with vaccines. Again, based on the study in the original post, you would need to vaccinate an additional 38,000 children to prevent 1 severe case of Covid. Now let’s see how many people may get hurt when we administer those 38,000 injections.

The incidence of vaccine-related myocarditis in males aged 12 to 17 is about 22 to 36 per 100,000 after receiving a second vaccine dose
. In individuals aged 18-24, the incidence was 0.95 per 100,000
. To calculate the number of children who need to receive the vaccine to result in one case of myocarditis, we can use the incidence rate. For males aged 12 to 17, the number needed to vaccinate (NNV) is approximately 2,778 to 4,545 (1 divided by the incidence rate). These numbers provide an estimate of how many children need to be vaccinated to result in one case of myocarditis.



So to prevent a severe case of Covid, you’ve now given around 9-10 kids myocarditis. And that’s before you even get into the myriad of other possible side effects kids can suffer from after the injections.
post 1697411193 02-04-2024, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted By GreatOldOne
Seat belts injure millions of people every year, but we still require everyone use them because the possible outcome of a situation where you would need them is so incredibly bad.

That seems like analogous logic, but I don't know how the absolute risk of car wreck compares with serious covid illness. It's definitely out there and has claimed millions of lives...
The good old comparing seat belts to the jab......
post 1697411273 02-04-2024, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
When seat belts injure people, they almost always do so while in the process of preventing a more serious injury. That isn’t the case with vaccines. Again, based on the study in the original post, you would need to vaccinate an additional 38,000 children to prevent 1 severe case of Covid. Now let’s see how many people may get hurt when we administer those 38,000 injections.

The incidence of vaccine-related myocarditis in males aged 12 to 17 is about 22 to 36 per 100,000 after receiving a second vaccine dose
. In individuals aged 18-24, the incidence was 0.95 per 100,000
. To calculate the number of children who need to receive the vaccine to result in one case of myocarditis, we can use the incidence rate. For males aged 12 to 17, the number needed to vaccinate (NNV) is approximately 2,778 to 4,545 (1 divided by the incidence rate). These numbers provide an estimate of how many children need to be vaccinated to result in one case of myocarditis.



So to prevent a severe case of Covid, you’ve now given around 9-10 kids myocarditis. And that’s before you even get into the myriad of other possible side effects kids can suffer from after the injections.
I mean, seat belts might cause some bruising, but thats about it.
post 1697411483 02-04-2024, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
I mean, seat belts might cause some bruising, but thats about it.
If brakes work, why do we have seatbelts?

If seatbelts work, why do we have airbags?

If the above all work, why do people still get hurt or killed in car accidents?
post 1697412753 02-04-2024, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
When seat belts injure people, they almost always do so while in the process of preventing a more serious injury. That isn’t the case with vaccines. Again, based on the study in the original post, you would need to vaccinate an additional 38,000 children to prevent 1 severe case of Covid. Now let’s see how many people may get hurt when we administer those 38,000 injections.

The incidence of vaccine-related myocarditis in males aged 12 to 17 is about 22 to 36 per 100,000 after receiving a second vaccine dose
. In individuals aged 18-24, the incidence was 0.95 per 100,000
. To calculate the number of children who need to receive the vaccine to result in one case of myocarditis, we can use the incidence rate. For males aged 12 to 17, the number needed to vaccinate (NNV) is approximately 2,778 to 4,545 (1 divided by the incidence rate). These numbers provide an estimate of how many children need to be vaccinated to result in one case of myocarditis.



So to prevent a severe case of Covid, you’ve now given around 9-10 kids myocarditis. And that’s before you even get into the myriad of other possible side effects kids can suffer from after the injections.
I don't think the medical pros see it that way. AFAIK public health people consider the risk of heart trouble for kids vaccine related to be less than .01%.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2788346

If they thought the risk was literally greater than reward they wouldn't give it. But they don't consider the risk to be how you described.
post 1697413233 02-04-2024, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted By GreatOldOne
I don't think the medical pros see it that way. AFAIK public health people consider the risk of heart trouble for kids vaccine related to be less than .01%.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2788346

If they thought the risk was literally greater than reward they wouldn't give it. But they don't consider the risk to be how you described.
More and more countries are moving in that direction. Places like Sweden and Germany won’t provide them to healthy children, and many more countries no longer recommend them for healthy children. The reason is that the risks outweigh the benefits.
post 1697413323 02-04-2024, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
More and more countries are moving in that direction. Places like Sweden and Germany won’t provide them to healthy children, and many more countries no longer recommend them for healthy children. The reason is that the risks outweigh the benefits.
While that is Alex's position, it isn't true.

post 1697422483 02-04-2024, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
If brakes work, why do we have seatbelts?

If seatbelts work, why do we have airbags?

If the above all work, why do people still get hurt or killed in car accidents?
Youre comparing all the above to the COVID jab???
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