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post 1698163363 02-21-2024, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted By GooBaaa
I said not counting PC but yes Xbox is where all the MLG pros were (gears, halo, cod)

I don’t even know why you would try to argue against that other than your a retarded fan boy
Nobody cares about muh e sports nerd.
post 1698163623 02-21-2024, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted By ****inator
Nobody cares about muh e sports nerd.
You sure enough cared to even reply with a lame ass troll rebuttal
post 1698163793 02-21-2024, 09:25 AM
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After almost 10 yrs on my OG first gen Xbox, December of last year wife got me the XboxX…now this news. FML
post 1698164273 02-21-2024, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted By ****inator
Nobody cares about muh e sports nerd.
No one on Playstation does because they have none so yeah, that's accurate
post 1698164473 02-21-2024, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted By BigElephant
As for the Series S thing, that's different. Series X was a standard console, Series S was the lite version. If they had Series X for $500 and Series X Pro for $750 I would bet a significantly higher portion than 15% would opt for the pro. I know I would.
Series S outsold X by 3:1 since it was/is much cheaper while also being available.

The whole appeal of consoles is that you throw a couple hundred bucks at a new one when they release and just forget about any hardware purchases until the next gen comes out. It's a cheap and - mostly -reliable way to take care of your gaming needs.

And even if they released some super duper turbopro version of a console at 1,5x or at double (lol) price - let's not even touch how much money companies would lose per console sale - it still wouldn't be worth schit since all the games are still bottlenecked by the poverty versions.
post 1698164853 02-21-2024, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted By freeburn
No one on Playstation does because they have none so yeah, that's accurate
No wonder incels love muh e sports so much lol
post 1698164913 02-21-2024, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted By ****inator
No wonder incels love muh e sports so much lol
Don't know what that is supposed to even mean
post 1698165913 02-21-2024, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted By freeburn
Don't know what that is supposed to even mean
You know this site is done when the trolls can’t even put together a good post anymore
post 1698169173 02-21-2024, 11:45 AM
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post 1698169413 02-21-2024, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted By BigElephant
Idk I think the pro console 3-4 years after release pisses off more people than having them both available at the start. You just give the consumer the choice outright if they want the standard version or the premium version. Again it's not a Series S vs Series X situation, as the S was clearly just a "Lite" and not even a standard version.

Unreal 5 is huge, so far raytracing seems overrated to me though. If it's actually a big difference in pricing of hardware 4 years later that's a valid reason not to release both on release. They're probably better off just not doing pro versions at all tbh.
Imo the people it doesn't piss off are the hardcore sonycels like the Coal man's and mgftp of the world. They only play on Playstation so they are excited for the upgrade.

For those of us who are casual console users, or i it's a secondary platform... I'm annoyed by it. I don't play it enough to warrant buying a pro and now I know I'm not even gunna get the best console experience with my mid tier box... I'm just Gunna go back to pc and say fuk these consoles. Easy decision.
post 1698169423 02-21-2024, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted By BigElephant
Idk I think the pro console 3-4 years after release pisses off more people than having them both available at the start. You just give the consumer the choice outright if they want the standard version or the premium version. Again it's not a Series S vs Series X situation, as the S was clearly just a "Lite" and not even a standard version.

Unreal 5 is huge, so far raytracing seems overrated to me though. If it's actually a big difference in pricing of hardware 4 years later that's a valid reason not to release both on release. They're probably better off just not doing pro versions at all tbh.
No, people would be more outraged if at the start they have to pay $500 to only get the poverty box. You really can't imagine the base console players literally rioting that $500 is already the outdated console at launch and you have to pay a whole $750 to get the "proper" console? Get real man.

The other thing everyone would cry about is that they'll think games will be built and optimized for the expensive box while their cheaper box will get the inferior version of the game. The backlash would be insane.
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post 1698169693 02-21-2024, 11:56 AM
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post 1698169823 02-21-2024, 11:58 AM
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post 1698170123 02-21-2024, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted By BigElephant
Except it's not the poverty box. Games would be built and optimized for the $500 standard console.
Literally no one will believe this. You cannot be this dense man. They will see with their own eyes the pro looking and performing better and immediately assume they got the chit version while the pro gets the real version. That's easier to swallow if you bought a series S for $350, you accept you have a poverty box. It's not gonna be acceptable to people who pay $500...esp if the pro model is WAY more expensive at $750 which puts it solidly out of their price range. People would be mad as fuk.
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post 1698170993 02-21-2024, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted By freeburn
Imo the people it doesn't piss off are the hardcore sonycels like the Coal man's and mgftp of the world. They only play on Playstation so they are excited for the upgrade.

For those of us who are casual console users, or i it's a secondary platform... I'm annoyed by it. I don't play it enough to warrant buying a pro and now I know I'm not even gunna get the best console experience with my mid tier box... I'm just Gunna go back to pc and say fuk these consoles. Easy decision.
Disagree, you'll see people being pissed off on forums but most people in the real world won't be pissed off by the PS5 pro. Esp since the base PS5 would get a price cut at that point.

You say you're a casual console player but you conveniently omit the major context that you're also a huge tech nerd with a monster pc setup, VR chamber and racing sim pod with lightshows everywhere..so obviously you're at the bleeding edge of gaming tech. It definitely bothers you to not have the best machine available but you don't quite care enough about consoles to spend $600 or sell your PS5 and spend $300. You don't represent the average console owner at all.

Meanwhile, you will foam at the mouth to throw a couple grand at Nvidia to preorder a 5090 only 2 years after owning your beyond capable 4090.
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post 1698171073 02-21-2024, 12:20 PM
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post 1698171303 02-21-2024, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted By BigElephant
Except the Series S was an obvious Lite version. What I'm talking about isn't Lite and Standard, it's Standard and Pro. If you're the hardware dev you make it clear the distinction, as well as the plan that both will be viable for the duration of the console's life-cycle, and the Pro is just for higher resolution or better performance/future proofing. Again it's much less frustrating buying 1 console at an increased price that lasts 7-8 years rather than a standard on release and a pro 3-4 years later. If it's not cost feasible for devs to do that, that's fine and I accept that, but in that case they shouldn't do pro versions at all.
$500 isn't "lite" to the people who buy consoles man. Get it through your head already. At launch people expect that kinda price to get them the best console. They will riot if you tell them to pony up $750 to get the real deal.
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post 1698172083 02-21-2024, 12:41 PM
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post 1698173123 02-21-2024, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted By BigElephant
Because the $500 isn't a Lite, it's Standard.
Bro I literally cannot with you lmao. It doesn't matter what they call it, look at it through the eyes of a customer and from a marketing perspective. The $500 console will now be viewed by them as the lite/poverty/weak box and people will be mad.

If Microsoft changed the names to:

Series Standard - $350
Series Pro - $500

People will still see the "standard" as the poverty box. It doesn't matter what you name them, when people spend $500 they want to know they have the premium console at launch. They will feel like 2nd class citizens if $750 is the new premium - a price most will not be able to afford.
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