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03-24-2024, 09:31 AM
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Mind=Blown how the Squatting situation in US isn't being discussed
Like these laws that allow ppl to just squat in YOUR house and you can't do anything about it is CRAZY
Fukn politicians worrying about Ukraine and stupid ass chit when our chit is so fukd
Brb let me tell my neighbor they need to mow their lawn while my house is on fire
Fukn politicians worrying about Ukraine and stupid ass chit when our chit is so fukd
Brb let me tell my neighbor they need to mow their lawn while my house is on fire
03-24-2024, 09:33 AM
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well if you aint using it...
03-24-2024, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted By ScrillaIsBake⏩
That's what I was thinking...I would walk in there and blast people in the legs and tell police i thought they were burglars and they were charging at meI'm surprised there aren't more murders/assaults related to it srs. Cause if someone was squatting in a house I worked hard to buy I'd legit take matters into my own hands srs
03-24-2024, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted By Shysty021⏩
No, you wouldn'tThat's what I was thinking...I would walk in there and blast people in the legs and tell police i thought they were burglars and they were charging at me
03-24-2024, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted By Evolutionary1⏩
you're right I'd jsut walk in sit on the couch eat chips and watch tvNo, you wouldn't
I'll tell them they can fuk my gf too if they want
03-24-2024, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted By Evolutionary1⏩
You're right, I wouldn't, but I DO know there are "services" (people you can hire) to take care of squatters. The hired help aren't owners of the property so for all they know they're just squatters trying to squat on the squatters. I'd give them permission to bust through the back screen door or a window and throw their chit out and if it comes to it strong-arm/rough them up a bit. What are they going to do? Call the cops?No, you wouldn't
03-24-2024, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
The moment you file a report or try to take them to court to get them booted you lose all leverage because now you KNOW they're squatting so the self-defense thing goes out the windowYou're right, I wouldn't, but I DO know there are "services" (people you can hire) to take care of squatters. The hired help aren't owners of the property so for all they know they're just squatters trying to squat on the squatters. I'd give them permission to bust through the back screen door or a window and throw their chit out and if it comes to it strong-arm/rough them up a bit. What are they going to do? Call the cops?
They actually do call the cops because there are "squatter rights" dead serious
can't disconnect the power or any utilities
can't even try to change the locks...lady got locked up for it
https://nbcmontana.com/amp/news/nati...ng-home-rights
03-24-2024, 10:16 AM
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The loophole as a landlord is to lease/rent to a new tenant and you'll be able to kick the squatters out so new tenant can move in
Its the only solution but it works very well and cops will help
Its the only solution but it works very well and cops will help
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03-24-2024, 10:17 AM
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OP, the golden bull was discussing it for years before he got banned for doing so. Its not discussed in MSM because rentchads stay winning and landlord-cels on suicide watch.
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03-24-2024, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted By Shysty021⏩
I wouldn't even file a report. I'd see them there, politely tell them to leave, and if they refuse then i'll handle it myself.The moment you file a report or try to take them to court to get them booted you lose all leverage
Originally Posted By dopamine72⏩
yeah, thats true. but the place I have isn't ready to rent yet....although I could just let a friend sign a fake lease stating he's going to move in "as-is"The loophole as a landlord is to lease/rent to a new tenant and you'll be able to kick the squatters out so new tenant can move in
Its the only solution but it works very well and cops will help
Its the only solution but it works very well and cops will help
03-24-2024, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted By Shysty021⏩
lolThe moment you file a report or try to take them to court to get them booted you lose all leverage because now you KNOW they're squatting so the self-defense thing goes out the window
They actually do call the cops because there are "squatter rights" dead serious
can't disconnect the power or any utilities
can't even try to change the locks...lady got locked up for it
https://nbcmontana.com/amp/news/nati...ng-home-rights
They actually do call the cops because there are "squatter rights" dead serious
can't disconnect the power or any utilities
can't even try to change the locks...lady got locked up for it
https://nbcmontana.com/amp/news/nati...ng-home-rights
03-24-2024, 10:41 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong...I can take a look at property listings on any realtor website, scope out potential prospects, find one place with no one living in it, break the lock (and replace it with a new one) and make it my home without and legal repurcussion?
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Originally Posted By Shortfuze⏩
pretty much.Correct me if I'm wrong...I can take a look at property listings on any realtor website, scope out potential prospects, find one place with no one living in it, break the lock (and replace it with a new one) and make it my home without and legal repurcussion?
There's TONS of unoccupied beach front properties and homes near the ocean in San Diego. They're just vacation homes so they're vacant for 6-9 months out of the year. There's a particular property that has been unoccupied for over 2 years. There's never a car in the driveway. the curtains are open and there's very little furniture in the home and the only people I see there are the mexicans who I assumed were hired help because they just mow the lawn and trim the trees.
03-24-2024, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted By Shortfuze⏩
YepCorrect me if I'm wrong...I can take a look at property listings on any realtor website, scope out potential prospects, find one place with no one living in it, break the lock (and replace it with a new one) and make it my home without and legal repurcussion?
Create a fake lease, put all utilities in your name, live there for 30 days and it's yours until the owner takes you to court...some of it is state dependent I believe but that's what I've been reading
03-24-2024, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
Goodpretty much.
There's TONS of unoccupied beach front properties and homes near the ocean in San Diego. They're just vacation homes so they're vacant for 6-9 months out of the year. There's a particular property that has been unoccupied for over 2 years. There's never a car in the driveway. the curtains are open and there's very little furniture in the home and the only people I see there are the mexicans who I assumed were hired help because they just mow the lawn and trim the trees.
There's TONS of unoccupied beach front properties and homes near the ocean in San Diego. They're just vacation homes so they're vacant for 6-9 months out of the year. There's a particular property that has been unoccupied for over 2 years. There's never a car in the driveway. the curtains are open and there's very little furniture in the home and the only people I see there are the mexicans who I assumed were hired help because they just mow the lawn and trim the trees.
I hope this Squatting thing becomes massively popular
If 10 people are doing it: it is a crime
If millions are doing it: it is a movement
lmao at court times to formerly evict millions.
impossible.
03-24-2024, 11:18 AM
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squatters should be sent to army bases and used as target practice
03-24-2024, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted By dopamine72⏩
What if it's your own home and you're just returning from a 2-3 month business trip? There's plenty of Americans who work on the road for weeks at a time. Now you're homeless, having scum sleeping in your own bed and you're cucked by some libtard state. (Super Ded fkn Srs)The loophole as a landlord is to lease/rent to a new tenant and you'll be able to kick the squatters out so new tenant can move in
Its the only solution but it works very well and cops will help
Its the only solution but it works very well and cops will help
03-24-2024, 11:25 AM
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just read this article....
Pacific Heights: A Movie Ahead of Its Time
by Alex Tabarrok March 21, 2024 at 7:20 am in Current Affairs Film Law
Pacific Heights is a 1990 movie starring Michael Keaton, Melanie Griffith, and Matthew Modine. Conventionally described as a “psychological thriller,” or a horror movie it’s actually a Kafkaesque analysis of tenancy rights and the legal system. The movie centers on a young couple, Drake and Patty, who purchase a San Francisco Victorian with dreams of fixing it up and renting several of the units to help pay the mortgage. Their dream turns into a nightmare when Carter Hayes (Michael Keaton) moves in and exploits tenant protection laws to torment and exploit them.
Hayes moves in without permission and without paying rent and he changes the locks. It doesn’t matter. When Drake (Modine) shuts off the power and heat, Hayes calls the police and the police explain to Drake:
What you did is against the law….turn the power and heat back on and apologize because according to the California civil code he has a right to sue and most likely he will win. If he’s in, he has rights, that’s how it works.
A lawyer later adds “He’s taken possession so whether he signed a lease or paid money or not he’s legally your tenant now and he is protected by laws that say you have to go to court to prove that he has to be evicted but the net effect of these laws is to…slowly drive you bankrupt and insane.”
What makes Pacific Heights a horror movie is that the tenant’s rights laws depicted are very real. Here’s just one example of thousands from NYC:
As I wrote on twitter “Decades of anti-landlord legislation has created a moocher-class of squatters who steal homes and then call the police on the owners.” Moreover, even today such laws continue to be added to the books. A bill in Congress, for example, would prevent landlords from being able to screen tenants for criminal records.
All of this has been exacerbated recently by COVID laws preventing eviction (some of which remain but which acclimatized some tenants to not paying rent and contributed to court backlogs), court backlogs and the greater ease of finding unoccupied houses using foreclosure data, death announcements, Zillow and so forth. In extreme cases it can take decades to evict a squatter who uses the law to their advantage.
Returning to Pacific Heights, what the movie gets wrong is the second half where Patty (Melanie Griffith) extracts revenge against Hayes. A less cathartic but more accurate ending would have had the couple exhausted with the complexities of tenant law and the court system and finally giving up when they realize that the law is not for them. Instead, they pay Carter Hayes a ransom to leave their own home. Of course, Drake and Patty choose never to rent to anyone ever again.
Pacific Heights: A Movie Ahead of Its Time
by Alex Tabarrok March 21, 2024 at 7:20 am in Current Affairs Film Law
Pacific Heights is a 1990 movie starring Michael Keaton, Melanie Griffith, and Matthew Modine. Conventionally described as a “psychological thriller,” or a horror movie it’s actually a Kafkaesque analysis of tenancy rights and the legal system. The movie centers on a young couple, Drake and Patty, who purchase a San Francisco Victorian with dreams of fixing it up and renting several of the units to help pay the mortgage. Their dream turns into a nightmare when Carter Hayes (Michael Keaton) moves in and exploits tenant protection laws to torment and exploit them.
Hayes moves in without permission and without paying rent and he changes the locks. It doesn’t matter. When Drake (Modine) shuts off the power and heat, Hayes calls the police and the police explain to Drake:
What you did is against the law….turn the power and heat back on and apologize because according to the California civil code he has a right to sue and most likely he will win. If he’s in, he has rights, that’s how it works.
A lawyer later adds “He’s taken possession so whether he signed a lease or paid money or not he’s legally your tenant now and he is protected by laws that say you have to go to court to prove that he has to be evicted but the net effect of these laws is to…slowly drive you bankrupt and insane.”
What makes Pacific Heights a horror movie is that the tenant’s rights laws depicted are very real. Here’s just one example of thousands from NYC:
As I wrote on twitter “Decades of anti-landlord legislation has created a moocher-class of squatters who steal homes and then call the police on the owners.” Moreover, even today such laws continue to be added to the books. A bill in Congress, for example, would prevent landlords from being able to screen tenants for criminal records.
All of this has been exacerbated recently by COVID laws preventing eviction (some of which remain but which acclimatized some tenants to not paying rent and contributed to court backlogs), court backlogs and the greater ease of finding unoccupied houses using foreclosure data, death announcements, Zillow and so forth. In extreme cases it can take decades to evict a squatter who uses the law to their advantage.
Returning to Pacific Heights, what the movie gets wrong is the second half where Patty (Melanie Griffith) extracts revenge against Hayes. A less cathartic but more accurate ending would have had the couple exhausted with the complexities of tenant law and the court system and finally giving up when they realize that the law is not for them. Instead, they pay Carter Hayes a ransom to leave their own home. Of course, Drake and Patty choose never to rent to anyone ever again.
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feel like it only happens in liberal cities
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I saw here in Florida two weeks ago a law was passed making it easier to remove squatters.
I can imagine the problem of squatting will become worse in blue sanctuary cities and states. Illegals have been posting videos on how to squat in American homes.
I can imagine the problem of squatting will become worse in blue sanctuary cities and states. Illegals have been posting videos on how to squat in American homes.
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Originally Posted By Shysty021⏩
Won't happen to you because they need 30 days to have rights and I'm certain you check on your properties. Story came out about Lebron James neighbor having squatters in a $4.5mm home in Beverly Grove, California. He was having parties and charging $500 to $1,500 admission fee. He stayed there for 4-5 months before the owner caught on.They actually do call the cops because there are "squatter rights" dead serious
https://nypost.com/2024/03/22/real-e..._medium=social
I'm buying a property four hours away for $95k with a $300k after repaired value but needs $70k of rehab. Made a deal with the tenant that she would vacate on the 27th but now I'm concerned someone else might try squatting.
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