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post 1589847371 10-16-2019, 02:26 PM
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Finasteride truth

https://ishrs.org/2019/05/27/finaste...etic-alopecia/

Using the ASEX survey, sexual dysfunction reports in a population of 762 men were not significantly associated with finasteride use. Between the control group and finasteride-experienced patients, there was no difference in loss of libido, reduced sexual performance or the number of men with an ASEX score indicating sexual dysfunction.

In contrast, results showed that increased age and selfreporting a decrease in libido or sexual performance were indicators for predicting a higher ASEX score. Therefore, the use of finasteride is not believed to be the cause of sexual dysfunction in AGA patients.

The association of sexual dysfunction and AGA patients might be explained through another aspect of the disease. Sexual dysfunction has previously been linked to both depression and a negative body image such as the possible impact of hair loss, especially in young men. In a recent study, an increased risk of sexual dysfunction was observed in men 18-40 years of age with moderate to severe AGA and psychosocial impairment accredited to body image changes due to hair loss.







tl;dr:
there's no correlation between finasteride use and conditions such as sexual dysfunction or loss of libido
post 1589848011 10-16-2019, 02:35 PM
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finasteride the wonder drug. god bless
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People can do what they want and let’s face it, hair is life bro
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I'm seeing all kinds of new regrowth at 2 months in. Can't wait to wake up tomorrow and see my new progress compared to waking up dreading more hair loss and being 1 day closer to being bald.
Currently on biotin and b12 vitamins as well, hoping to give the new hair a boost.
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post 1589848291 10-16-2019, 02:39 PM
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How expensive is fin?

I'm pretty bald already though like full reaper status
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post 1589848351 10-16-2019, 02:39 PM
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im hopping on fin immediately after reading this thread. ded srs


post 1589848531 10-16-2019, 02:42 PM
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post 1589848561 10-16-2019, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted By backinthegymbro⏩
I'm seeing all kinds of new regrowth at 2 months in. Can't wait to wake up tomorrow and see my new progress compared to waking up dreading more hair loss and being 1 day closer to being bald.
Currently on biotin and b12 vitamins as well, hoping to give the new hair a boost.
nice brah, where exactly do you see regrowth? on the crown or temple area?
post 1589848651 10-16-2019, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted By kinzu1996⏩
"survey"
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hit me up when there is a "study"
How would you do a study? Just curious what you think the lab experiments would entail.
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post 1589848771 10-16-2019, 02:45 PM
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where do you guys buy your fin? Can't find on Amazon
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This whole debate is retarded and created by people who have no understanding of hormones.

You're LITERALLY arguing that a chemical that is used as a performance enhancing drug doesn't reduce male functionality to eliminate from the body. If this pill cut your test levels by 70% everyone would be freaking out. DHT is actually more critical for many purposes.

Hard to get into too much of this because of forum rules, but it's insanity to think there won't be consequence to eliminating DHT.
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Watch this video as well.

If you think from the beginning that fin is gonna cause side effects, that will be in your mind even if nothing's wrong with you.


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Originally Posted By faketaxidriver⏩
nice brah, where exactly do you see regrowth? on the crown or temple area?
Mostly at the front. A little at the temples but nothing major. They say most regrowth is at the crown but i never had much hair loss there yet. So can't really comment on it much.

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im going to hop on minox first to try to see if that has any effect. Will resort to harsher DHT inhibiting chemicals if it doesn't work
post 1589849251 10-16-2019, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
This whole debate is retarded andcreated by people who have no understanding of hormones.

You're LITERALLY arguing that a chemical that is used as a performance enhancing drug doesn't reduce male functionality to eliminate from the body. If this pill cut your test levels by 70% everyone would be freaking out.DHT is actually more critical for many purposes.

Hard to get into too much of this because of forum rules, but it's insanity to think there won't be consequence to eliminating DHT.
What people and what are those purposes?
post 1589849341 10-16-2019, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted By MetroBrah⏩
im going to hop on minox first to try to see if that has any effect. Will resort to harsher DHT inhibiting chemicals if it doesn't work
minoxidil doesn't inhibit dht and it's a chitty product from what I've read, would not recommend
post 1589849841 10-16-2019, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted By faketaxidriver⏩
What people and what are those purposes?
Male hormones have both androgenic and anabolic functions. Testosterone is much more anabolic than DHT. You're not going to notice a huge reduction in muscle mass from lower DHT, so you can still look jacked.

However, DHT is MUCH more androgenic than Testosterone. Androgenic activity is responsible for things like aggression, sex drive, hair growth, bone density, and energy levels.

Just because you can still get it up and look like you life doesn't mean everything is fine, unless you like increasing your estrogen levels and reducing the functions of male hormones in your body.
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The best thing to do is not worry about it. If you take that first pill thinking it's all going to go wrong, then you're not helping yourself.
Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
Just because you can still get it up and look like you life doesn't mean everything is fine, unless you like increasing your estrogen levels and reducing the functions of male hormones in your body.
This is why I take it with an AI.
How dare you!

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post 1589850091 10-16-2019, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
Male hormones have both androgenic and anabolic functions. Testosterone is much more anabolic than DHT. You're not going to notice a huge reduction in muscle mass from lower DHT, so you can still look jacked.

However, DHT is MUCH more androgenic than Testosterone. Androgenic activity is responsible for things like aggression, sex drive, hair growth, bone density, and energy levels.

Just because you can still get it up and look like you life doesn't mean everything is fine, unless you like increasing your estrogen levels and reducing the functions of male hormones in your body.
Alright, but can you link me some medical literature or evidence suggesting that the degree to which finasteride affects DHT has any effect on the things you mentioned?
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Originally Posted By faketaxidriver⏩
Alright, but can you link me some medical literature or evidence suggesting that the degree to which finasteride affects DHT has any effect on the things you mentioned?
Because certain subjects are off limits here, I'm sort of limited to where I can link. I hope even what I've posted so far is mod-friendly since its just functional info about a drug that I know is allowed to be discussed.

Here is what you really need to look at- there is a LOT of researchable info for what positives increasing your DHT accomplishes. If you know those things, it's pretty easy to surmise what reducing it would do.

Here is another thing to consider- Spironolactone is an anti-androgen drug just like Fin, except more effective. It's actually used for male to female sex change therapy.

Just not worth it man.
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post 1589851651 10-16-2019, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
Because certain subjects are off limits here, I'm sort of limited to where I can link. I hope even what I've posted so far is mod-friendly since its just functional info about a drug that I know is allowed to be discussed.

Here is what you really need to look at- there is a LOT of researchable info for what positives increasing your DHT accomplishes. If you know those things, it's pretty easy to surmise what reducing it would do.

Here is another thing to consider- Spironolactone is an anti-androgen drug just like Fin, except more effective. It's actually used for male to female sex change therapy.

Just not worth it man.
You can send me PMs tho can't you? I'm genuinely interested.
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I have been taking Finasteride for at least ten years. I have noticed a lower sex drive, but frankly I think that is seriously just age. I mean I used to have a really quick recovery time and smash two or three times. I mean I could get ridiculous.

Now it is pretty much just once without an hour or two recovery time.

I do not think Finasteride caused any issues for me.
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
Just not worth it man.
To each their own. But personally i would never take hair advice from a baldcel.
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
Because certain subjects are off limits here, I'm sort of limited to where I can link. I hope even what I've posted so far is mod-friendly since its just functional info about a drug that I know is allowed to be discussed.

Here is what you really need to look at- there is a LOT of researchable info for what positives increasing your DHT accomplishes. If you know those things, it's pretty easy to surmise what reducing it would do.

Here is another thing to consider- Spironolactone is an anti-androgen drug just like Fin, except more effective. It's actually used for male to female sex change therapy.

Just not worth it man.
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Originally Posted By backinthegymbro⏩
To each their own. But personally i would never take hair advice from a baldcel.
Hey man, has fin been worth it for you? Any libido/ED sides? Just started 0.5 EOD this week but im a little paranoid
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Originally Posted By darkreign11⏩
Hey man, has fin been worth it for you? Any libido/ED sides?
Honestly it's great. I feel like i have control of my life again. Every day i woke up depressed. Thinking my life was on a deadline.
That i would be completely bald within 2 years because my hair loss was at an exponential rate. Thinking i wouldn't get a girlfriend anymore.
I'm 31 right now, but i legit look 20. But if i go bald, i'll look 40. It was messing with my self esteem like you wouldn't believe.

Now i wake up with zero hair loss stress. I look in the mirror and even though the most regrowth results occur in 3-6 months. At just 2 months in, i can already see the front thickening up with a lot of baby hairs. I used to be able to see my scalp through it, it thinned that much. Now it's all dark again.
Can't wait to see how much more will grow. After this, all i need is to save up for a hair transplant for the temples if i want to really go all out and i'll be solid again. But if i comb my hair with bangs, you can't notice my hair loss. It just sucks if the wind blows hard, so a HT is definitely on my wishlist as it also lets you style it better.

No sides, nothing. Still wake up with bonrars. Still fap 3-4 times a day sometimes. Of course i can't say this will stay like this forever, but i'm not worried.
So far so good and if i ever did notice bad sides, i'll just hop off. It's like 1 in 10000 who experience permanent sides after quitting. Yet its 100% guaranteed you go bald if you suffer from hair loss and don't do anything about it. I like my chances.

And everyone gets a little spooked in the first 2 weeks. But then you realize everything is fine and it's really just the loud minority online who keeps talking about the sides. Once you know you're good, everything becomes normal again.
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Originally Posted By backinthegymbro⏩
Honestly it's great. I feel like i have control of my life again. Every day i woke up depressed. Thinking my life was on a deadline.
That i would be completely bald within 2 years because my hair loss was at an exponential rate. Thinking i wouldn't get a girlfriend anymore.
I'm 31 right now, but i legit look 20. But if i go bald, i'll look 40. It was messing with my self esteem like you wouldn't believe.

Now i wake up with zero hair loss stress. I look in the mirror and even though the most regrowth results occur in 3-6 months. At just 2 months in, i can already see the front thickening up with a lot of baby hairs. I used to be able to see my scalp through it, it thinned that much. Now it's all dark again.
Can't wait to see how much more will grow. After this, all i need is to save up for a hair transplant for the temples if i want to really go all out and i'll be solid again. But if i comb my hair with bangs, you can't notice my hair loss. It just sucks if the wind blows hard, so a HT is definitely on my wishlist as it also lets you style it better.

No sides, nothing. Still wake up with bonrars. Still fap 3-4 times a day sometimes. Of course i can't say this will stay like this forever, but i'm not worried.
So far so good and if i ever did notice bad sides, i'll just hop off. It's like 1 in 10000 who experience permanent sides after quitting. Yet its 100% guaranteed you go bald if you suffer from hair loss and don't do anything about it. I like my chances.
Im glad it's working out for you. One thing though....i noticed some testicular pain yesterday. Did this happen to you on fin? And what dosage are you taking?
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Originally Posted By darkreign11⏩
Im glad it's working out for you. One thing though....i noticed some testicular pain yesterday. Did this happen to you on fin? And what dosage are you taking?
1mg/a day at the same time a day. I set my alarm for it. And if you notice a dull sensation, like a minor ache for a few seconds. It's normal. It goes away after the first week.
I experienced it maybe a few times for a couple seconds, but that was all.
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Why the hell should anyone listen to the medical field? They can't even make up their mind on whether or not red meat actually promotes cardiovascular issues. They change their mind on everything every 3-4 years.
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I'm getting to the stage I dgaf. My dad never struggled for women and he is very bald.
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