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DATAISM big tech's new religion is our biggest threat not communism! we must resist
I always lol at miscers who say that "the left" want to push for full blown communism, communism is a dead ideology and has no place in the future. Humanity's biggest threat is the rise of dataism, the religion of capitalism and big tech (it's also making capitalism obsolete btw) In dataism the flow of information and data is the only thing that matters, not humans or the human experience.
For example if you go with your family to have a nice dinner, chat with them and enjoy the delicious meal the entire experience is worthless unless you use and generate data (googling where to eat, following waze to get there, taking pictures and uploading them to the cloud and social media, generating likes etc) In the end as algorithms become more powerfull they'll be able to share and generate data without humans, creating the internet of things that will know everything everywhere. When that happens humans will become irrelevant and extint. Just like we've done to other species.
lol @ the plebs arguing about left vs right when our extinction is coming
For example if you go with your family to have a nice dinner, chat with them and enjoy the delicious meal the entire experience is worthless unless you use and generate data (googling where to eat, following waze to get there, taking pictures and uploading them to the cloud and social media, generating likes etc) In the end as algorithms become more powerfull they'll be able to share and generate data without humans, creating the internet of things that will know everything everywhere. When that happens humans will become irrelevant and extint. Just like we've done to other species.
First mentioned by David Brooks in his 2013 New York Times article “The Philosophy of Data,” dataism is an ethical system that has been most heavily explored and popularized by renowned historian, Yuval Noah Harari.
In his 2016 book Homo Deus, Harari described dataism as a new form of religion that celebrates the growing importance of big data.
Its core belief centers around the idea that the universe gives greater value and support to systems, individuals, and societies that contribute most heavily and efficiently to data processing. In an interview with Wired, Harari stated, “Humans were special and important because up until now they were the most sophisticated data processing system in the universe, but this is no longer the case.”
Now, big data and machine learning are proving themselves more sophisticated, and dataists believe we should hand over as much information and power to these algorithms as possible, allowing the free flow of data to unlock innovation and progress unlike anything we’ve ever seen before.
Pros: Progress and Personal Growth
When you let data run freely, it’s bound to be mixed and matched in new ways that inevitably spark progress. And as we enter the exponential future where every person is constantly connected and sharing their data, the potential for such collaborative epiphanies becomes even greater.
We can already see important increases in quality of life thanks to companies like Google. With Google Maps on your phone, your position is constantly updating on their servers. This information, combined with everyone else on the planet using a phone with Google Maps, allows your phone to inform you of traffic conditions. Based on the speed and location of nearby phones, Google can reroute you to less congested areas or help you avoid accidents. And since you trust that these algorithms have more data than you, you gladly hand over your power to them, following your GPS’s directions rather than your own.
We can do the same sort of thing with our bodies.
Imagine, for instance, a world where each person has biosensors in their bloodstreams—a not unlikely or distant possibility when considering diabetic people already wear insulin pumps that constantly monitor their blood sugar levels. And let’s assume this data was freely shared to the world.
Now imagine a virus like Zika or the Bird Flu breaks out. Thanks to this technology, the odd change in biodata coming from a particular region flags an artificial intelligence that feeds data to the CDC (Center for Disease Control and Prevention). Recognizing that a pandemic could be possible, AIs begin 3D printing vaccines on-demand, predicting the number of people who may be afflicted. When our personal AIs tell us the locations of the spreading epidemic and to take the vaccine it just delivered by drone to our homes, are we likely to follow its instructions? Almost certainly—and if so, it’s likely millions, if not billions, of lives will have been saved.
But to quickly create such vaccines, we’ll also need to liberate research.
Currently, universities and companies seeking to benefit humankind with medical solutions have to pay extensively to organize clinical trials and to find people who match their needs. But if all our biodata was freely aggregated, perhaps they could simply say “monitor all people living with cancer” to an AI, and thanks to the constant stream of data coming in from the world’s population, a machine learning program may easily be able to detect a pattern and create a cure.
As always in research, the more sample data you have, the higher the chance that such patterns will emerge. If data is flowing freely, then anyone in the world can suddenly decide they have a hunch they want to explore, and without having to spend months and months of time and money hunting down the data, they can simply test their hypothesis.
Whether garage tinkerers, at-home scientists, or PhD students—an abundance of free data allows for science to progress unhindered, each person able to operate without being slowed by lack of data. And any progress they make is immediately liberated, becoming free data shared with anyone else that may find a use for it.
Any individual with a curious passion would have the entire world’s data at their fingertips, empowering every one of us to become an expert in any subject that inspires us. Expertise we can then share back into the data stream—a positive feedback loop spearheading progress for the entirety of humanity’s knowledge.
Such exponential gains represent a dataism utopia.
Unfortunately, our current incentives and economy also show us the tragic failures of this model.
As Harari has pointed out, the rise of datism means that “humanism is now facing an existential challenge and the idea of ‘free will’ is under threat.”
Cons: Manipulation and Extortion
In 2017, The Economist declared that data was the most valuable resource on the planet—even more valuable than oil.
Perhaps this is because data is ‘priceless’: it represents understanding, and understanding represents control. And so, in the world of advertising and politics, having data on your consumers and voters gives you an incredible advantage.
This was evidenced by the Cambridge Analytica scandal, in which it’s believed that Donald Trump and the architects of Brexit leveraged users’ ******** data to create psychological profiles that enabled them to manipulate the masses.
How powerful are these psychological models?
A team who built a model similar to that used by Cambridge Analytica said their model could understand someone as well as a coworker with access to only 10 ******** likes. With 70 likes they could know them as well as a friend might, 150 likes to match their parents’ understanding, and at 300 likes they could even come to know someone better than their lovers. With more likes, they could even come to know someone better than that person knows themselves.
Proceeding With Caution
In a capitalist democracy, do we want businesses and politicians to know us better than we know ourselves?
In spite of the remarkable benefits that may result for our species by freely giving away our information, do we run the risk of that data being used to exploit and manipulate the masses towards a future without free will, where our daily lives are puppeteered by those who own our data?
It’s extremely possible.
And it’s for this reason that one of the most important conversations we’ll have as a species centers around data ownership: do we just give ownership of the data back to the users, allowing them to choose who to sell or freely give their data to? Or will that simply deter the entrepreneurial drive and cause all of the free services we use today, like Google Search and ********, to begin charging inaccessible prices? How much are we willing to pay for our freedom? And how much do we actually care?
If recent history has taught us anything, it’s that humans are willing to give up more privacy than they like to think. Fifteen years ago, it would have been crazy to suggest we’d all allow ourselves to be tracked by our cars, phones, and daily check-ins to our favorite neighborhood locations; but now most of us see it as a worthwhile trade for optimized commutes and dating. As we continue navigating that fine line between exploitation and innovation into a more technological future, what other trade-offs might we be willing to make?
In his 2016 book Homo Deus, Harari described dataism as a new form of religion that celebrates the growing importance of big data.
Its core belief centers around the idea that the universe gives greater value and support to systems, individuals, and societies that contribute most heavily and efficiently to data processing. In an interview with Wired, Harari stated, “Humans were special and important because up until now they were the most sophisticated data processing system in the universe, but this is no longer the case.”
Now, big data and machine learning are proving themselves more sophisticated, and dataists believe we should hand over as much information and power to these algorithms as possible, allowing the free flow of data to unlock innovation and progress unlike anything we’ve ever seen before.
Pros: Progress and Personal Growth
When you let data run freely, it’s bound to be mixed and matched in new ways that inevitably spark progress. And as we enter the exponential future where every person is constantly connected and sharing their data, the potential for such collaborative epiphanies becomes even greater.
We can already see important increases in quality of life thanks to companies like Google. With Google Maps on your phone, your position is constantly updating on their servers. This information, combined with everyone else on the planet using a phone with Google Maps, allows your phone to inform you of traffic conditions. Based on the speed and location of nearby phones, Google can reroute you to less congested areas or help you avoid accidents. And since you trust that these algorithms have more data than you, you gladly hand over your power to them, following your GPS’s directions rather than your own.
We can do the same sort of thing with our bodies.
Imagine, for instance, a world where each person has biosensors in their bloodstreams—a not unlikely or distant possibility when considering diabetic people already wear insulin pumps that constantly monitor their blood sugar levels. And let’s assume this data was freely shared to the world.
Now imagine a virus like Zika or the Bird Flu breaks out. Thanks to this technology, the odd change in biodata coming from a particular region flags an artificial intelligence that feeds data to the CDC (Center for Disease Control and Prevention). Recognizing that a pandemic could be possible, AIs begin 3D printing vaccines on-demand, predicting the number of people who may be afflicted. When our personal AIs tell us the locations of the spreading epidemic and to take the vaccine it just delivered by drone to our homes, are we likely to follow its instructions? Almost certainly—and if so, it’s likely millions, if not billions, of lives will have been saved.
But to quickly create such vaccines, we’ll also need to liberate research.
Currently, universities and companies seeking to benefit humankind with medical solutions have to pay extensively to organize clinical trials and to find people who match their needs. But if all our biodata was freely aggregated, perhaps they could simply say “monitor all people living with cancer” to an AI, and thanks to the constant stream of data coming in from the world’s population, a machine learning program may easily be able to detect a pattern and create a cure.
As always in research, the more sample data you have, the higher the chance that such patterns will emerge. If data is flowing freely, then anyone in the world can suddenly decide they have a hunch they want to explore, and without having to spend months and months of time and money hunting down the data, they can simply test their hypothesis.
Whether garage tinkerers, at-home scientists, or PhD students—an abundance of free data allows for science to progress unhindered, each person able to operate without being slowed by lack of data. And any progress they make is immediately liberated, becoming free data shared with anyone else that may find a use for it.
Any individual with a curious passion would have the entire world’s data at their fingertips, empowering every one of us to become an expert in any subject that inspires us. Expertise we can then share back into the data stream—a positive feedback loop spearheading progress for the entirety of humanity’s knowledge.
Such exponential gains represent a dataism utopia.
Unfortunately, our current incentives and economy also show us the tragic failures of this model.
As Harari has pointed out, the rise of datism means that “humanism is now facing an existential challenge and the idea of ‘free will’ is under threat.”
Cons: Manipulation and Extortion
In 2017, The Economist declared that data was the most valuable resource on the planet—even more valuable than oil.
Perhaps this is because data is ‘priceless’: it represents understanding, and understanding represents control. And so, in the world of advertising and politics, having data on your consumers and voters gives you an incredible advantage.
This was evidenced by the Cambridge Analytica scandal, in which it’s believed that Donald Trump and the architects of Brexit leveraged users’ ******** data to create psychological profiles that enabled them to manipulate the masses.
How powerful are these psychological models?
A team who built a model similar to that used by Cambridge Analytica said their model could understand someone as well as a coworker with access to only 10 ******** likes. With 70 likes they could know them as well as a friend might, 150 likes to match their parents’ understanding, and at 300 likes they could even come to know someone better than their lovers. With more likes, they could even come to know someone better than that person knows themselves.
Proceeding With Caution
In a capitalist democracy, do we want businesses and politicians to know us better than we know ourselves?
In spite of the remarkable benefits that may result for our species by freely giving away our information, do we run the risk of that data being used to exploit and manipulate the masses towards a future without free will, where our daily lives are puppeteered by those who own our data?
It’s extremely possible.
And it’s for this reason that one of the most important conversations we’ll have as a species centers around data ownership: do we just give ownership of the data back to the users, allowing them to choose who to sell or freely give their data to? Or will that simply deter the entrepreneurial drive and cause all of the free services we use today, like Google Search and ********, to begin charging inaccessible prices? How much are we willing to pay for our freedom? And how much do we actually care?
If recent history has taught us anything, it’s that humans are willing to give up more privacy than they like to think. Fifteen years ago, it would have been crazy to suggest we’d all allow ourselves to be tracked by our cars, phones, and daily check-ins to our favorite neighborhood locations; but now most of us see it as a worthwhile trade for optimized commutes and dating. As we continue navigating that fine line between exploitation and innovation into a more technological future, what other trade-offs might we be willing to make?
lol @ the plebs arguing about left vs right when our extinction is coming
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I wish I got around to reading that book now.
I agree that Dataism is the biggest threat. I made numerous threads about it.
Smart Homes, Smart Offices, and Smart Cities are all about data acquisition. Data is and will be used for social engineering on a level that hasn't been possible before.
Social engineering in the past was very crude compared to the personalized propaganda that has began via Big Data and Algorithms. Only now the right is waking up to the power that Big Tech has to manipulate public opinion, and they are starting to realize that giving corporations free reign leads to circumstances as bad as giving governments free reign.
Ditching Smartphones, Alexa, Echo, Google Nest, etc is a good start to resisting. As well as using AVG Browser, and refusing all but necessary/functional cookies on website.
(BB.com has the worst amount of cookies that I've ever seen on a website, the amount of companies that they are giving cookies to is unbelievable, you have to see the list to understand what I mean.)
I agree that Dataism is the biggest threat. I made numerous threads about it.
Smart Homes, Smart Offices, and Smart Cities are all about data acquisition. Data is and will be used for social engineering on a level that hasn't been possible before.
Social engineering in the past was very crude compared to the personalized propaganda that has began via Big Data and Algorithms. Only now the right is waking up to the power that Big Tech has to manipulate public opinion, and they are starting to realize that giving corporations free reign leads to circumstances as bad as giving governments free reign.
Ditching Smartphones, Alexa, Echo, Google Nest, etc is a good start to resisting. As well as using AVG Browser, and refusing all but necessary/functional cookies on website.
(BB.com has the worst amount of cookies that I've ever seen on a website, the amount of companies that they are giving cookies to is unbelievable, you have to see the list to understand what I mean.)
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Its threat and promise at the same time imo
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
The scariest thing is that nobody controls dataism, there is not a group setting the goals behind the courtains. It's just data, uncheked algorithms and information growing and getting bigget at an unprecedented rate beyond the comprehension of corporate or government.I wish I got around to reading that book now.
I agree that Dataism is the biggest threat. I made numerous threads about it.
Smart Homes, Smart Offices, and Smart Cities are all about data acquisition. Data is and will be used for social engineering on a level that hasn't been possible before.
Social engineering in the past was very crude compared to the personalized propaganda that has began via Big Data and Algorithms. Only now the right is waking up to the power that Big Tech has to manipulate public opinion, and they are starting to realize that giving corporations free reign leads to circumstances as bad as giving governments free reign.
Ditching Smartphones, Alexa, Echo, Google Nest, etc is a good start to resisting. As well as using AVG Browser, and refusing all but necessary/functional cookies on website.
(BB.com has the worst amount of cookies that I've ever seen on a website, the amount of companies that they are giving cookies to is unbelievable, you have to see the list to understand what I mean.)
I agree that Dataism is the biggest threat. I made numerous threads about it.
Smart Homes, Smart Offices, and Smart Cities are all about data acquisition. Data is and will be used for social engineering on a level that hasn't been possible before.
Social engineering in the past was very crude compared to the personalized propaganda that has began via Big Data and Algorithms. Only now the right is waking up to the power that Big Tech has to manipulate public opinion, and they are starting to realize that giving corporations free reign leads to circumstances as bad as giving governments free reign.
Ditching Smartphones, Alexa, Echo, Google Nest, etc is a good start to resisting. As well as using AVG Browser, and refusing all but necessary/functional cookies on website.
(BB.com has the worst amount of cookies that I've ever seen on a website, the amount of companies that they are giving cookies to is unbelievable, you have to see the list to understand what I mean.)
Take googles arlogrithms there are thousands of people working on tiny parts of it constanlty improving it but there isn't a single person who completely understands it or controls it. It is an entity on its own
EVeryone should read this book, insightful and scary at the same time.
As you say ditching gadgets, smartphones and unnecesary algorithms is a good start. Sadly this is way over our control and while a few individuals will resist the masses will walk gladly into it giving in more and more into the data flow
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Our possible future if we don't stop it.
They will attempt to manipulate every decision we make through smart technology, the data they gather from us, and their algorithms. Before it was bankers who ruled the world, but in the future it may be Big Tech...
They will attempt to manipulate every decision we make through smart technology, the data they gather from us, and their algorithms. Before it was bankers who ruled the world, but in the future it may be Big Tech...
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Originally Posted By Slayermanlet⏩
The few token promises given to humanity in the mean time while the algorithms and data flow are not worth it. They will be enjoyed by a couple generations at the most until we become redundant and extint. In the end gluttony and hedonism will be our doom.Its threat and promise at the same time imo
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
Fuaaaaaaaaark havent seen this one before, the mere thought of a future like that breaks my hearth srs.Our possible future if we don't stop it.
They will attempt to manipulate every decision we make through smart technology, the data they gather from us, and their algorithms. Before it was bankers who ruled the world, but in the future it may be Big Tech...
They will attempt to manipulate every decision we make through smart technology, the data they gather from us, and their algorithms. Before it was bankers who ruled the world, but in the future it may be Big Tech...
Would rather live in a hut as a hunter gatherer than a future like that, 100% srs
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Agreed completely. I'm a right winger myself but I always lol when people talk about the commie threat. There are only like 5 Marxists left in this country. The real threat is from the group of progressives that want to destroy society. They get called Marxists all the time but they espouse the same neoliberal economic policies that the right has only recently started to move away from. At this point I'm not even sure if "Cultural Marxist" is just a naming convention and people know what these people really are or if they think these people are actually Marxists
Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
You been reading Baudrillard brah?Our possible future if we don't stop it.
They will attempt to manipulate every decision we make through smart technology, the data they gather from us, and their algorithms. Before it was bankers who ruled the world, but in the future it may be Big Tech...
They will attempt to manipulate every decision we make through smart technology, the data they gather from us, and their algorithms. Before it was bankers who ruled the world, but in the future it may be Big Tech...
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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
Hmmm, I can see things in the future getting out of hand, but for now - from what I've seen - they is definite controlling of the use of algorithms. I've seen (and others have pointed out, and they have openly admitted) to 'experimenting' with our subscriber pages on youtube. Before it was what we subbed to we would find, then youtube openly said that they would be manipulating what we see even when it comes to what we are subbed to.The scariest thing is that nobody controls dataism, there is not a group setting the goals behind the courtains. It's just data, uncheked algorithms and information growing and getting bigget at an unprecedented rate beyond the comprehension of corporate or government.
Take googles arlogrithms there are thousands of people working on tiny parts of it constanlty improving it but there isn't a single person who completely understands it or controls it. It is an entity on its own
True, but when it comes to things like social media. Big Tech leaders can - and do - set keywords that are triggers. Youtube has voice recognition software (that's not a conspiracy theory, that's how automated subtitles are created) and if you say keywords or phrases then you will automatically get demonitized or flagged. They can set the trigger words and phrases to be whatever they want, and that ability - as we all know - is how the NSA shifts through all the data that it acquires through social media companies, who are legally obligated to give them all users data.As you say ditching gadgets, smartphones and unnecesary algorithms is a good start. Sadly this is way over our control and while a few individuals will resist the masses will walk gladly into it giving in more and more into the data flow
I agree, tbh. Too many people are apathetic.However, I'm a theist. And I believe that God will 'let' a crisis happen that will be a catalyst to reevaluating our civilization, rather than let humanity live out in in a Cyperpunk Dystopia.
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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
It literally makes you want to get a landline phone and delete the internet.I've been hearing its good but I don't want to get depressed lol. Will watch it later tho
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Agreed Marxism/communism are dead ideologies. The terms just get thrown around as a generic insult or a token boogeyman. The real threats are closer to us and more widespread, dataism goes hand in had with neoliberalism (for now) and sadly it seems nothing can stop itAgreed completely. I'm a right winger myself but I always lol when people talk about the commie threat. There are only like 5 Marxists left in this country. The real threat is from the group of progressives that want to destroy society. They get called Marxists all the time but they espouse the same neoliberal economic policies that the right has only recently started to move away from. At this point I'm not even sure if "Cultural Marxist" is just a naming convention and people know what these people really are or if they think these people are actually Marxists
You been reading Baudrillard brah?
You been reading Baudrillard brah?
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Am currently multitasking so I'll read the entire thing later, but I agree 100%.
The last straw that made me disconnect as much as possible was when I would talk about random chit with my roommate and I'd see advertisements for it on Instagram the next day or the following days.
Got rid of my smartphone, though I keep an iPad at home as it still has its uses. I started to consume as little as possible and try to buy locally as often as I can.
I talk about it with people IRL every now and then, but most don't care and will choose comfort and convenience. The other day two malls in my area were caught using facial recognition technology for data collection (age and gender they said) and there wasn't much backlash. It is what it is, I guess.
The last straw that made me disconnect as much as possible was when I would talk about random chit with my roommate and I'd see advertisements for it on Instagram the next day or the following days.
Got rid of my smartphone, though I keep an iPad at home as it still has its uses. I started to consume as little as possible and try to buy locally as often as I can.
I talk about it with people IRL every now and then, but most don't care and will choose comfort and convenience. The other day two malls in my area were caught using facial recognition technology for data collection (age and gender they said) and there wasn't much backlash. It is what it is, I guess.
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Wow. Never thought I'd agree with one of your posts, but I mostly agree with everything in this one. Nice write up.
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Originally Posted By ramimotemem⏩
Das it manAm currently multitasking so I'll read the entire thing later, but I agree 100%.
The last straw that made me disconnect as much as possible was when I would talk about random chit with my roommate and I'd see advertisements for it on Instagram the next day or the following days.
Got rid of my smartphone, though I keep an iPad at home as it still has its uses. I started to consume as little as possible and try to buy locally as often as I can.
I talk about it with people IRL every now and then, but most don't care and will choose comfort and convenience. The other day two malls in my area were caught using facial recognition technology for data collection (age and gender they said) and there wasn't much backlash. It is what it is, I guess.
The last straw that made me disconnect as much as possible was when I would talk about random chit with my roommate and I'd see advertisements for it on Instagram the next day or the following days.
Got rid of my smartphone, though I keep an iPad at home as it still has its uses. I started to consume as little as possible and try to buy locally as often as I can.
I talk about it with people IRL every now and then, but most don't care and will choose comfort and convenience. The other day two malls in my area were caught using facial recognition technology for data collection (age and gender they said) and there wasn't much backlash. It is what it is, I guess.
Can't get rid of my phone because of work reasons, but soon after I semi retire I will. I have been growing my own food for a while and it's goat, having the freedom of feeding yourself without the use of money or corportations is goat. Not to mention the fresshnes and variety of them, I have 5 different kinds of tomatoes for example. All grown organically with my compost too
Imagine a future where the algorithms dictate your diet based on all you biotracker upgrades and feed you a soy-gulash produced at a nearby feeding station. Dont forget to upload a video of you eating to youtube otherwise you won't have enough points for your next meal!
LMAO in that future growing your own food will probably be illegal as monsanto or another megacorps will have the rights to all the seeds and growing them without a license will be against their T.O.S
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Originally Posted By ScramFranklin⏩
TBH 99% of my posts are just trolling but after reading that book I felt that this was something worth sharingWow. Never thought I'd agree with one of your posts, but I mostly agree with everything in this one. Nice write up.
11-06-2020, 10:20 AM
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If there's one thing the Left doesn't like..... it's Data and Facts
𝗣𝗨𝗥𝗘𝗕𝗟𝗢𝗢𝗗
ωσяℓ∂ тяανєℓєя ȼяєω ₅₀/₁₉₅
𝕬𝖊𝖘𝖙𝖍𝖊𝖙𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖑𝖑𝖞 𝕮𝖚𝖙 𝕸𝖆𝖘𝖙𝖊𝖗 𝕽𝖆𝖈𝖊 ®
ᗪIᔕᑕᖇIᗰIᑎᗩTIOᑎ E᙭ᑕᒪᑌᔕIOᑎ IᑎᗪOᑕTᖇIᑎᗩTIOᑎ
11-06-2020, 10:21 AM
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The new Bolshevik is the same as the old Bolshevik.
Take a look at who runs all these companies and compare it to whom the communists were/still are.
Think about the following:
Capitalism - Tiny elite get the majority of stuff. Gives whats left to the peasants (you).
Communism - Tiny elte get the majority of stuff. Gives whats left to the peasnats (you).
Take a look at who runs all these companies and compare it to whom the communists were/still are.
Think about the following:
Capitalism - Tiny elite get the majority of stuff. Gives whats left to the peasants (you).
Communism - Tiny elte get the majority of stuff. Gives whats left to the peasnats (you).
11-06-2020, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
When the heads up display cut off in the supermarket, everything looked dull and the only sound was a baby crying. It was like a shock to my senses. That video is absolutely haram and I'll be putting my neon bright color phone screen down more often now, because that reality scares me.Our possible future if we don't stop it.
They will attempt to manipulate every decision we make through smart technology, the data they gather from us, and their algorithms. Before it was bankers who ruled the world, but in the future it may be Big Tech...
They will attempt to manipulate every decision we make through smart technology, the data they gather from us, and their algorithms. Before it was bankers who ruled the world, but in the future it may be Big Tech...
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Ted Kaczynski was right about a lot of chit.
"The industrial-technological system may survive or it may break down. If it survives, it MAY eventually achieve a low level of physical and psychological suffering, but only after passing through a long and very painful period of adjustment and only at the cost of permanently reducing human beings and many other living organisms to engineered products and mere cogs in the social machine."
"The industrial-technological system may survive or it may break down. If it survives, it MAY eventually achieve a low level of physical and psychological suffering, but only after passing through a long and very painful period of adjustment and only at the cost of permanently reducing human beings and many other living organisms to engineered products and mere cogs in the social machine."
11-06-2020, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted By Vexidi⏩
He was right about a lot of things, shame he went full crazy with the bombsTed Kaczynski was right about a lot of chit.
"The industrial-technological system may survive or it may break down. If it survives, it MAY eventually achieve a low level of physical and psychological suffering, but only after passing through a long and very painful period of adjustment and only at the cost of permanently reducing human beings and many other living organisms to engineered products and mere cogs in the social machine."
"The industrial-technological system may survive or it may break down. If it survives, it MAY eventually achieve a low level of physical and psychological suffering, but only after passing through a long and very painful period of adjustment and only at the cost of permanently reducing human beings and many other living organisms to engineered products and mere cogs in the social machine."
11-06-2020, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted By eightduece⏩
Agreed, how often are we not walking around glued to our phone screens who are by design made to capture as most of our attention as possible. And endless stream of notifications and updates to interact with. phuck that.When the heads up display cut off in the supermarket, everything looked dull and the only sound was a baby crying. It was like a shock to my senses. That video is absolutely haram and I'll be putting my neon bright color phone screen down more often now, because that reality scares me.
11-06-2020, 10:49 AM
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You say communism is dead so why does the left keep pursuing it
11-06-2020, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted By chickenbroccoli⏩
Nobody keeps pursuing it bro, nobody. I only promote it for comedic purposes. Show me just on openly communist candidate or party in the western world. Even china has abandoned communism they just kept the brandname. Again post one openly communist politician or party...You say communism is dead so why does the left keep pursuing it
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