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Why did the Spanish love ethnic poosey?
Was looking up some Paisa history. I know a lot of big time drug lords came from this background. Pablo Escobar is one.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paisa_(region)
"As evidenced by the analysis of direct-line mitochondrial DNA or mtDNA (inherited from mother-to-child) and Y-chromo****l DNA or Y-DNA (inherited from father-to-son), the initial founding of the Paisa population occurred primarily through the admixture of male Iberians (mostly from various Spaniard ethnic groups, and a smaller Sephardic Jewish element) and female Amerindians.[4]
Subsequently, within the emerging Paisa colonial society, a continued flow of additional male Spaniards immigrating into the Paisa region in the following generations encouraged marriages of these males to the early established Paisa population. This increased the overall European component and resulted in the "racial whitening" of the founding mixed-race population by preventing the mixed-race individuals marrying among themselves and growing in numbers, as well as preventing further unions of either Spaniards or mixed-race individuals with unmixed Amerindians."
Seems like back then it was encouraged for a Spanish guy to marry an Amerindian or mixed woman
"As evidenced by the analysis of direct-line mitochondrial DNA or mtDNA (inherited from mother-to-child) and Y-chromo****l DNA or Y-DNA (inherited from father-to-son), the initial founding of the Paisa population occurred primarily through the admixture of male Iberians (mostly from various Spaniard ethnic groups, and a smaller Sephardic Jewish element) and female Amerindians.[4]
Subsequently, within the emerging Paisa colonial society, a continued flow of additional male Spaniards immigrating into the Paisa region in the following generations encouraged marriages of these males to the early established Paisa population. This increased the overall European component and resulted in the "racial whitening" of the founding mixed-race population by preventing the mixed-race individuals marrying among themselves and growing in numbers, as well as preventing further unions of either Spaniards or mixed-race individuals with unmixed Amerindians."
Seems like back then it was encouraged for a Spanish guy to marry an Amerindian or mixed woman
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. In addition, the process of admixture was apparently sex-biased and preferentially occurred between European males and Amerindian and/or African females; this process has been shown to be remarkably consistent among countries and populations including Argentina (5), Ecuador (6), Mexico (7), Cuba (8), Brazil (9), Uruguay (10), Colombia (11), and Costa Rica (11)
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Originally Posted By Howiester⏩
Are u stupid? You do realize most of the mixing happening during the migration? Guess what? Spanish women came along with the menBecause it was the only thing available? God you’re a dumb tradie.
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Marrying in to the conquered is a good way to appease the people you rule & make them accept the rape & murder that occurred.
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Originally Posted By hoganrulz⏩
Rape is another cope. These werent conquistadors they were just regular migrants. Conquistadors did marry native women quickly so the Native allies would be more trusting of them, but no mass rapes happened.Marrying in to the conquered is a good way to appease the people you rule & make them accept the rape & murder that occurred.
The whole rape thing is a joke. How could a couple thousand guys rape millions of women? And Native Americans werent slaves for very long. They ended up just being underprivileged citizens.
Most of the mixing happened during migration not the initial conquest
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Who doesn't like ethnic pussy?
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
ThisWho doesn't like ethnic pussy?
Can confirm I am spaniard/Italian background and I love ethnic pussy
I probably banged your mom.
Eat the whole animal like a real man.
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Originally Posted By ipunchurgirl⏩
Pretty sure anyone with functioning testes in a time where rape is normalized could go through millions considering we're talking about conquering forces here not Umberto the Catholic missionaryRape is another cope. These werent conquistadors they were just regular migrants. Conquistadors did marry native women quickly so the Native allies would be more trusting of them, but no mass rapes happened.
The whole rape thing is a joke. How could a couple thousand guys rape millions of women? And Native Americans werent slaves for very long. They ended up just being underprivileged citizens.
Most of the mixing happened during migration not the initial conquest
The whole rape thing is a joke. How could a couple thousand guys rape millions of women? And Native Americans werent slaves for very long. They ended up just being underprivileged citizens.
Most of the mixing happened during migration not the initial conquest
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imagine arriving to a new land as a average spaniard that didnt do to good in spain, to a land full of indigenous woman that looked at you like a white tall hairy god. yeah no need to rape or "wanting" to bang.
they probably ****ed them for the hell of it and a lot them ended preggos.
imagine arriving to a new land as a average spaniard that didnt do to good in spain, to a land full of indigenous woman that looked at you like a white tall hairy god. yeah no need to rape or "wanting" to bang.
they probably ****ed them for the hell of it and a lot them ended preggos.
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Originally Posted By Howiester⏩
this. only the VIPs and high ranking officials got to bring their wives over. if you were a regular worker bee/soldier, you had no other choice but to smash local chicks or to be a *******. with all of the conflict that happened, i would dare say that the population of native men dropped and they all lived in poverty, so the native women had no choice but to take spanish sausage.Because it was the only thing available? God you’re a dumb tradie.
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Originally Posted By Syko617⏩
Strong blackpill.bro
imagine arriving to a new land as a average spaniard that didnt do to good in spain, to a land full of indigenous woman that looked at you like a white tall hairy god. yeah no need to rape or "wanting" to bang.
they probably ****ed them for the hell of it and a lot them ended preggos.
imagine arriving to a new land as a average spaniard that didnt do to good in spain, to a land full of indigenous woman that looked at you like a white tall hairy god. yeah no need to rape or "wanting" to bang.
they probably ****ed them for the hell of it and a lot them ended preggos.
They weren't raped, they wanted it.
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Conquerors always kill the men/boys and breed out the women. Have throughout human history. It's the basis of the evolution of hypergamy. Even in modern times. Look at all the korean/vietnamese war babies.
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Originally Posted By TonyTriangles⏩
Most of the mixing happened during European migration lots of Spanish women came aswell. The Spanish ideology was of converting the natives which probably meant absorbing them into Spanish society and intermarrying with them once they converted.this. only the VIPs and high ranking officials got to bring their wives over. if you were a regular worker bee/soldier, you had no other choice but to smash local chicks or to be a *******. with all of the conflict that happened, i would dare say that the population of native men dropped and they all lived in poverty, so the native women had no choice but to take spanish sausage.
It was probably encouraged for a Spanish man to mix with a non Spanish woman, but not the other way around.
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Originally Posted By ipunchurgirl⏩
grgregergrWas looking up some Paisa history. I know a lot of big time drug lords came from this background. Pablo Escobar is one.
"As evidenced by the analysis of direct-line mitochondrial DNA or mtDNA (inherited from mother-to-child) and Y-chromo****l DNA or Y-DNA (inherited from father-to-son), the initial founding of the Paisa population occurred primarily through the admixture of male Iberians (mostly from various Spaniard ethnic groups, and a smaller Sephardic Jewish element) and female Amerindians.[4]
Subsequently, within the emerging Paisa colonial society, a continued flow of additional male Spaniards immigrating into the Paisa region in the following generations encouraged marriages of these males to the early established Paisa population. This increased the overall European component and resulted in the "racial whitening" of the founding mixed-race population by preventing the mixed-race individuals marrying among themselves and growing in numbers, as well as preventing further unions of either Spaniards or mixed-race individuals with unmixed Amerindians."
Seems like back then it was encouraged for a Spanish guy to marry an Amerindian or mixed woman
"As evidenced by the analysis of direct-line mitochondrial DNA or mtDNA (inherited from mother-to-child) and Y-chromo****l DNA or Y-DNA (inherited from father-to-son), the initial founding of the Paisa population occurred primarily through the admixture of male Iberians (mostly from various Spaniard ethnic groups, and a smaller Sephardic Jewish element) and female Amerindians.[4]
Subsequently, within the emerging Paisa colonial society, a continued flow of additional male Spaniards immigrating into the Paisa region in the following generations encouraged marriages of these males to the early established Paisa population. This increased the overall European component and resulted in the "racial whitening" of the founding mixed-race population by preventing the mixed-race individuals marrying among themselves and growing in numbers, as well as preventing further unions of either Spaniards or mixed-race individuals with unmixed Amerindians."
Seems like back then it was encouraged for a Spanish guy to marry an Amerindian or mixed woman
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My city is listed.. although We(colombians) when we say Paisas we're just talking about people from Medellín
Originally Posted By ipunchurgirl⏩
thats how it has always happened all over the world.. A son would likely take up the views/religion of the father/traditions, ect...It was probably encouraged for a Spanish man to mix with a non Spanish woman, but not the other way around.
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It's just what you do when you conquer another group of people. You enslave the men, don't let them get any, and you bang their women. Humans have been doing it since we were able to form tribes and conquer each other in the first place, hundreds of thousands of years at this point.
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Southern Euros have a rep for being high test. I don't know why they did it but I'm glad they did. Native American women are not nearly as attractive as mestiza and castiza women
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Originally Posted By ipunchurgirl⏩
i'm familiar with the spanish colonization to the philippines. same thing happened there and many of the women did it because lack of favorable men and it was their way to move up socioeconomically. the regular soldiers and the workers were assigned there for years and did not bring their spouses/families with them. many of them knew that if they were sent there, they would not be going back or did not want to go back.Most of the mixing happened during European migration lots of Spanish women came aswell. The Spanish ideology was of converting the natives which probably meant absorbing them into Spanish society and intermarrying with them once they converted.
It was probably encouraged for a Spanish man to mix with a non Spanish woman, but not the other way around.
It was probably encouraged for a Spanish man to mix with a non Spanish woman, but not the other way around.
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Originally Posted By Drhunglow⏩
^THIS.Just like when the Romans conquer Spain they banged all the Spanish women.
And then when the Arabs conquered Spain, they banged all the Roman-Spanish women
You should know more about your Med Master race
And then when the Arabs conquered Spain, they banged all the Roman-Spanish women
You should know more about your Med Master race
Also, OP, you should know that during the "migration period" of Spanish colonialism, very few Spanishwomenactually migrated to the New World. This wasn't like in the English colonies, where whole families migrated to the colonies. Most of the European immigrants to the Spanish colonies were young, single men.
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Originally Posted By yewotm8⏩
yea, but slavery for natives didnt last very long. Mixing was mostly during migrationIt's just what you do when you conquer another group of people. You enslave the men, don't let them get any, and you bang their women. Humans have been doing it since we were able to form tribes and conquer each other in the first place, hundreds of thousands of years at this point.
"After passage of the 1542 New Laws, also known as the New Laws of the Indies for the Good Treatment and Preservation of the Indians, the Spanish greatly restricted the power of the encomienda system, allowed abuse by holders of the labor grants (encomenderos), and officially abolished the enslavement of the native ..."
Columbus landed in 1492, Hernan Cortes in 1519. I believe most of the mixing was with Spanish men, women of the Amerindian allies, and the women of the defeated enemy Amerindians. For example in Mexico the conquistadors had native allies who helped them defeat the Aztecs.These allies benefited greatly for being allies & they were never enslaved. In Peru Pizarro also had native allies who helped him defeat the Incas. His native allies also helped him fight against Diego de Almagro who also had native allies. Almagro was a conquistador who wanted control of the former Inca capital from Pizarro
Well the point is not every native male was a slave, and if they were it wasnt for very long. I believe like one poster said its likely many of them died & women made up a vast majority of the population. Kinda like current Russia but more extreme
Originally Posted By TonyTriangles⏩
Spanish didnt mix that much with Filipinas which is weird. I wonder why that was? Most filipinos are not mixed with Spanish, and if they are its very low percentagesi'm familiar with the spanish colonization to the philippines. same thing happened there and many of the women did it because lack of favorable men and it was their way to move up socioeconomically. the regular soldiers and the workers were assigned there for years and did not bring their spouses/families with them. many of them knew that if they were sent there, they would not be going back or did not want to go back.
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Moors did the same in Spain. Its just normal in history in wars, invasions etc.
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Originally Posted By ipunchurgirl⏩
Said migration was mostly done by men. I dunno where you got that idea fromAre u stupid? You do realize most of the mixing happening during the migration? Guess what? Spanish women came along with the men
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Originally Posted By Drhunglow⏩
Yea, but the mixing wasnt anywhere near as much. A lot of us are mixed especially in southern Spain. I'm mixed with some Italian, Irish, North African. The same people that invaded the Americas werent exactly the same people who the North Africans invaded. Most of the conquistadors came from areas that were previously occupied by North Africans.The average Andalucian is only 5% North African. While the average Latin American is 50-70% Spanish, so obviously it wasnt even close.Just like when the Romans conquer Spain they banged all the Spanish women.
And then when the Arabs conquered Spain, they banged all the Roman-Spanish women
You should know more about your Med Master race
And then when the Arabs conquered Spain, they banged all the Roman-Spanish women
You should know more about your Med Master race
Originally Posted By Conspirabrah⏩
I need a source for that. For most countries pretty sure it was both equal men & women that came. I know in Paraguay it was all men but thats in exception^THIS.
Also, OP, you should know that during the "migration period" of Spanish colonialism, very few Spanishwomenactually migrated to the New World. This wasn't like in the English colonies, where whole families migrated to the colonies. Most of the European immigrants to the Spanish colonies were young, single men.
Also, OP, you should know that during the "migration period" of Spanish colonialism, very few Spanishwomenactually migrated to the New World. This wasn't like in the English colonies, where whole families migrated to the colonies. Most of the European immigrants to the Spanish colonies were young, single men.
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Originally Posted By ipunchurgirl⏩
mixing did happen but it wasnt as pervasive as when they colonized south america. probably because spain had a smaller footprint there and there was more riches to be had in the new world. probably the distance too; easier to cross the atlantic to get to the colonies vice crossing multiple oceans to get to the philippinesSpanish didnt mix that much with Filipinas which is weird. I wonder why that was? Most filipinos are not mixed with Spanish, and if they are its very low percentages
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Originally Posted By ipunchurgirl⏩
There was less contact as there was already a lot of Chinese there who they were used to dealing with. So mostly they paid Chinese people to deal with the Filipinos.Spanish didnt mix that much with Filipinas which is weird. I wonder why that was? Most filipinos are not mixed with Spanish, and if they are its very low percentages
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Because why tf would spanish men want their dysgenic euro women with a laundry list of requirements when they could get young native american puss with GOAT asses for far cheaper?
And there aboslutely was violence between native men and spanish men. JFL if you think native men would just let the spaniards take their women and wipe out their lines like thevye done today
And there aboslutely was violence between native men and spanish men. JFL if you think native men would just let the spaniards take their women and wipe out their lines like thevye done today
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