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Thread: Wrestling vs BJJ, which grappling art is more alpha?

post 1625166673 12-10-2020, 11:20 PM
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Wrestling vs BJJ, which grappling art is more alpha?

Wrestling:

High test, unmatchable pace that is essentially a war of attrition, with both sides testing their physical prowess by constantly advancing their position through timing explosive bursts of strength to catch your opponent off guard. In the olympics with multiple countries competing for the prestigious Olympic gold.





BJJ:

Closely linked to the MMA community, tends to be slow paced at the highest levels, involves chokes and submissions:

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wrestling is incredibly tough and beyond the physical stress you need to be in top tier shape

but i'd go with bjj. the sole purpose of bjj is to choke someone out or break a limb of the other person. Wrestling you can hold someone down or throw someone to the moon, but in bjj you can put someone out in seconds
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post 1625170893 12-11-2020, 12:26 AM
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Wrestling, and it is not even close.

Good BJJ instructors are almost always ex college wrestlers or guys who were trained by ex wrestlers.

MMA is most closely associated with wrestling/wrestlers, not bjj.

This has to be a joke or troll question?
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Why not both? I see BJJ as the extension of wrestling after a takedown and vice versa.
In any good bjj school that does no gi you will learn some wrestling too. Do both. Pick up some basic boxing/kick-boxing too
so you have range.
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wrestling crew checking in. Wrestlers actually earn their ears. BJJ is what wrestlers do when they retire because its easier on their bodies and more of a hobby for stay at home mothers. Its still effective as fck im not knocking. But its not on wrestlings level
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Wrestling is obviously more alpha. But BJJ is often more practical. It’s important to train both at least a little bit.
post 1625172223 12-11-2020, 01:01 AM
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Wrestling is meant to get someone on the ground and on their back, much like trying to sex a woman

BJJ involves laying down on your back and hoping that a big strong man lays down on top of you and just makes you take it

You decide
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If you have one of them in your arsenal you're a badass. If you have both you're a superbeast.

Wrestling gets the slight edge from an MMA standpoint because people with Wrestling as their base can move further up the chain to the belt vs somebody who has a BJJ background for the most part. Of course You'll get people like Dillion Danis and Garry Tonon who can go up the chain also
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imo wrestling is harder physically

in bjj you can stall in half gaurd or full gaurd but in wrestling you cant stall
post 1625172793 12-11-2020, 01:22 AM
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im only 33 but skip wrestling class these days because I always get injured without fail

still give bjs though
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Sambo > wrestling and BJJ
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Wrestling is obviously more alpha. It requires more physicality especially related to strength and explosiveness.

Both are great to learn though. I'd lean towards BJJ because of my age now though.
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So many non-athlete dorks join bjj gyms and get brown & black belts. You can't do the same to be a proficient, say, NCAA D1 wrestler. BJJ has become the new bullshido
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post 1625174683 12-11-2020, 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted By JigPig⏩
Sambo > wrestling and BJJ
Lol@Sambo

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i don't have much grappling experience but too my knowledge

Wrestling = more alpha, also more likely to accidentally kill someone in a street fight by slamming them on their head

Bjj guy will beat the wrestler usually though.
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Originally Posted By hotsaucebrah⏩
Lol@Sambo

He just says stuff like that to chit stir. Said the same thing about judo.

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Originally Posted By madBrahhh⏩
Why not both? I see BJJ as the extension of wrestling after a takedown and vice versa.
In any good bjj school that does no gi you will learn some wrestling too. Do both. Pick up some basic boxing/kick-boxing too
so you have range.
I just don't know where you can replicate a hs or college wrestling room. The training and intensity really is a young man's game.
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Originally Posted By Brandonrhyse⏩
i don't have much grappling experience but too my knowledge

Wrestling = more alpha, also more likely to accidentally kill someone in a street fight by slamming them on their head

Bjj guy will beat the wrestler usually though.
Try again. As long as a wrestler turns the corner in their leg attacks and avoids guillotine the bjj guy will stiffen up and get beat soundly. They have no idea how to loosen up or initiate attacks, its all counter
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Originally Posted By hotsaucebrah⏩
I just don't know where you can replicate a hs or college wrestling room. The training and intensity really is a young man's game.
The intensity is what you choose it to be and what you can stand. I've been to no gi submission wrestling classes with 10 7min rounds with 30 second breaks.
Those would break most people. If I had to choose one of the two I would choose wrestling because I have a ton of respect for the sport.
The dichotomy is however moot in my opinion since you can train both and they form a continuum (and you can do so in an MMA gym for example).

Take fighting/self-defense for example. You have to be able to transition from your takedown to a solid position on the ground. One thing I've noticed is that
a lot of partners from an exclusive wrestling background would end up in a guillotine or other bad position on the ground. While that would earn
you points in a competition it might not end well in a different scenario.
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But I mean let's be honest, OP is not gonna do any of the two.
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Originally Posted By hotsaucebrah⏩
Lol@Sambo



Chael getting wrecked by Sambo(Fedor)
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As a bjj guy I hate rolling with wrestlers. They are always strong and agile AF. Pure BJJ guys are always working their technique and trying to outsmart you. Wrestling guys will just scoop you up, smash you and call it a day.
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Originally Posted By 92Laner⏩
Try again. As long as a wrestler turns the corner in their leg attacks and avoids guillotine the bjj guy will stiffen up and get beat soundly. They have no idea how to loosen up or initiate attacks, its all counter
lol beat how? by being pinning them then yeah I guess

Wrestling is the best base for fighting hands down but pure BJJ beats wrestling because it actually finishing an opponent
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Originally Posted By goonsondeck⏩
lol beat how? by being pinning them then yeah I guess

Wrestling is the best base for fighting hands down but pure BJJ beats wrestling because it actually finishing an opponent
Pick your poison. Exhaustion. front head locks which are essentially disguising a choke from a ref. numerous arm bar and key locks. Screaming from locking hands in a laced ankle and grinding shins together. I've tapped so many bjj guys from solely gut wrenches and leg rides. Listen to your master Joe Rogan when he tells you wrestlers are the master race
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Originally Posted By hackerwacker⏩
As a bjj guy I hate rolling with wrestlers. They are always strong and agile AF. Pure BJJ guys are always working their technique and trying to outsmart you. Wrestling guys will just scoop you up, smash you and call it a day.
Pretty much this

I remember in college I joined the bjj group at the rec center and grappled with those guys

It was too easy to just rip myself out of all their chokes and armbars n shiit

The only one that got me was i had a double leg ride on one guy and he got some ankle lock shiit on me when i crossed my ankles
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Originally Posted By 92Laner⏩
Pick your poison. Exhaustion. front head locks which are essentially disguising a choke from a ref. numerous arm bar and key locks. Screaming from locking hands in a laced ankle and grinding shins together. I've tapped so many bjj guys from solely gut wrenches and leg rides. Listen to your master Joe Rogan when he tells you wrestlers are the master race
lol wtf tapping to gut wreches?

gordan ryan vs pat downey is how most bjj/wrestling match ups go. stop being delusional.
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