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The Official Misc Horticulture Thread
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, right? I thought about starting a thread last year, but figured I'd get sent to O35 misc. I was hoping Katya would start a gardening thread before me but planned to man up once I actually reached growing season at my house. Last weekend I planted half of my square-foot-garden. Peas, lettuce, spinach, and carrots. I was lazy last year and didn't do much cleanup at the end of the growing season. This is what my boxes looked like at the beginning of the day:
I dug them out and mixed in a bag of compost:
And planted one of the boxes as noted above:
I prepped the box on the left but covered it with a tarp. The box had a lot of weeds in it, so I covered it to try and kill the unwanted plants. I'll plant it in a month or so. I use square foot gardens for some of my plants, but we have good soil and I plant a lot in a traditional garden, too. Mostly I choose based on space. Stuff like corn, squash, and tomatoes take up too much space for the square foot garden. I also planted grapes and prepped for strawberries over the weekend. Here's last season's traditional garden:
I'll get the regular portion of my garden going in a month or so. Working in the garden is relaxing for me. My wife and kids do a lot of the weeding, I'm in charge of planting and watering. Having lots of hands helps a lot with a big garden.
I'm no expert, but I've had good success. I'm sure it helps that I grew up in a family that did a big garden every year, but you don't need to be an expert to have a nice garden. I'm going to update this thread regularly with my success (or lack) throughout the summer and invite anyone who wants to join in.
I dug them out and mixed in a bag of compost:
And planted one of the boxes as noted above:
I prepped the box on the left but covered it with a tarp. The box had a lot of weeds in it, so I covered it to try and kill the unwanted plants. I'll plant it in a month or so. I use square foot gardens for some of my plants, but we have good soil and I plant a lot in a traditional garden, too. Mostly I choose based on space. Stuff like corn, squash, and tomatoes take up too much space for the square foot garden. I also planted grapes and prepped for strawberries over the weekend. Here's last season's traditional garden:
I'll get the regular portion of my garden going in a month or so. Working in the garden is relaxing for me. My wife and kids do a lot of the weeding, I'm in charge of planting and watering. Having lots of hands helps a lot with a big garden.
I'm no expert, but I've had good success. I'm sure it helps that I grew up in a family that did a big garden every year, but you don't need to be an expert to have a nice garden. I'm going to update this thread regularly with my success (or lack) throughout the summer and invite anyone who wants to join in.
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It's in my blood, I can't help it.
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04-05-2022, 05:14 PM
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I was also lazy this year, and didn't plant alot. It's comming to the end of the growing season, and the last of my chillis are ripening
Bonus pic of my lime tree, these things grow all by themselves
My jerusalem artichokes are ripe now, so everytime we have a roast I send the boys out to dig some up. They grow back every year, very low maintenence.
Next thing will be the fiejoas. We have 7 trees, which is way too much fruit for us to eat. We end up giving most of them away, or making wine. Last year was so dry we didn't get a good crop. Fingers crossed for this year.
Bonus pic of my lime tree, these things grow all by themselves
My jerusalem artichokes are ripe now, so everytime we have a roast I send the boys out to dig some up. They grow back every year, very low maintenence.
Next thing will be the fiejoas. We have 7 trees, which is way too much fruit for us to eat. We end up giving most of them away, or making wine. Last year was so dry we didn't get a good crop. Fingers crossed for this year.
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04-07-2022, 09:46 AM
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Nice! I missed this when you posted it. I need to remember to subscribe to my own threads.
Potentially, one of the coolest things about a gardening thread on the misc is seeing the plants that people grow all over the world. Peppers and limes are looking good. I'd never heard of Jerusalem artichokes or fiejoas so I had to look them up. I was surprised to see Jerusalem artichokes are native to North America. There are so many good varieties of plants to eat, but so many people only get exposed to the ones that the supermarkets carry, or maybe the ones that will grow in their locale if they garden.
The US department of agriculture has categorized the country for climate to help in selecting the right plants for your area. I think the rating is based on the average annual extreme cold temperature. I'm in Zone 5a (-20 to -15 °F/-28.9 to -26.1 °C) of the USDA categorization. I think this fall we're going to build a walipini to extend our growing season, if we make it that far in our project list.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walipini
Kind of a partially buried greenhouse.
ETA: Got to rep you off spread.
Potentially, one of the coolest things about a gardening thread on the misc is seeing the plants that people grow all over the world. Peppers and limes are looking good. I'd never heard of Jerusalem artichokes or fiejoas so I had to look them up. I was surprised to see Jerusalem artichokes are native to North America. There are so many good varieties of plants to eat, but so many people only get exposed to the ones that the supermarkets carry, or maybe the ones that will grow in their locale if they garden.
The US department of agriculture has categorized the country for climate to help in selecting the right plants for your area. I think the rating is based on the average annual extreme cold temperature. I'm in Zone 5a (-20 to -15 °F/-28.9 to -26.1 °C) of the USDA categorization. I think this fall we're going to build a walipini to extend our growing season, if we make it that far in our project list.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walipini
Kind of a partially buried greenhouse.
ETA: Got to rep you off spread.
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04-11-2022, 02:24 PM
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Agreed!
Nice! I missed this when you posted it. I need to remember to subscribe to my own threads.
Potentially, one of the coolest things about a gardening thread on the misc is seeing the plants that people grow all over the world. Peppers and limes are looking good. I'd never heard of Jerusalem artichokes or fiejoas so I had to look them up. I was surprised to see Jerusalem artichokes are native to North America. There are so many good varieties of plants to eat, but so many people only get exposed to the ones that the supermarkets carry, or maybe the ones that will grow in their locale if they garden.
Potentially, one of the coolest things about a gardening thread on the misc is seeing the plants that people grow all over the world. Peppers and limes are looking good. I'd never heard of Jerusalem artichokes or fiejoas so I had to look them up. I was surprised to see Jerusalem artichokes are native to North America. There are so many good varieties of plants to eat, but so many people only get exposed to the ones that the supermarkets carry, or maybe the ones that will grow in their locale if they garden.
Those two I mentioned aren't unusual in our back yard gardens down here, but you don't see them in the supermarkets much, and when you do they are expensive. I think because they don't transport well, and have a short shelf life.
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04-11-2022, 02:34 PM
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I have a green thumb. Showed some of my work here and there over the decades here.
Cilantro, carrots, mint, parsley, cucumbers, dill, tomatoes, peppers, weed.
I have some raised garden beds (2), many pots and planters on a porch, back yard and I tried a green house but everything post-spring season melted I swear. It got too much humidity and greenhouse just didn’t work out as expected.
I grow it for me, a few neighbors, fam, and I got animals who eat them a lot.
In. I look forward af to seeing op sprout stuff.
I have a green thumb. Showed some of my work here and there over the decades here.
Cilantro, carrots, mint, parsley, cucumbers, dill, tomatoes, peppers, weed.
I have some raised garden beds (2), many pots and planters on a porch, back yard and I tried a green house but everything post-spring season melted I swear. It got too much humidity and greenhouse just didn’t work out as expected.
I grow it for me, a few neighbors, fam, and I got animals who eat them a lot.
In. I look forward af to seeing op sprout stuff.
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04-13-2022, 08:04 AM
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I'm still around, just been a little extra busy the last week. Regardless I don't have anything too interesting to post yet. This is what we woke up to on Sunday morning:
It had all melted by afternoon, but then it snowed again Monday and Tuesday. Nothing is growing yet. Peas are probably the fastest of the things I planted to pop up and carrots the slowest. I usually see them up in a week or so. However, cold temperatures slow things down. Everything I planted initially should be able to tolerate quite a bit of cold, it will just be slower. Last week we had some decently warm days, but the last few days I don't think we've gotten above freezing and last night the low was in the teens. We'll see. Hopefully something will be up by the weekend.
It had all melted by afternoon, but then it snowed again Monday and Tuesday. Nothing is growing yet. Peas are probably the fastest of the things I planted to pop up and carrots the slowest. I usually see them up in a week or so. However, cold temperatures slow things down. Everything I planted initially should be able to tolerate quite a bit of cold, it will just be slower. Last week we had some decently warm days, but the last few days I don't think we've gotten above freezing and last night the low was in the teens. We'll see. Hopefully something will be up by the weekend.
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04-15-2022, 09:09 AM
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The amount of satisfaction I feel when my first plants pop up is way out of proportion compared to the size of my plants. That little green speck is my first pea plant breaking through.
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04-15-2022, 09:18 PM
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The amount of satisfaction I feel when my first plants pop up is way out of proportion compared to the size of my plants. That little green speck is my first pea plant breaking through.
We picked up around 10kgs of feijoas off the grass today. I say 'we' - It was my wife. We'll take them round to the neighbours in the next few days.
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04-15-2022, 09:45 PM
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Mirin all the hard work and bountiful harvests
Hopefully one day I will have a home in the country and plant a garden
Did not know about Walipini, very interesting tech, love learning about that sort of thing
Hopefully one day I will have a home in the country and plant a garden
Did not know about Walipini, very interesting tech, love learning about that sort of thing
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04-18-2022, 08:44 AM
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Nice, I take credit for stuff my wife does all the time. I find it to be really efficient.
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We picked up around 10kgs of feijoas off the grass today. I say 'we' - It was my wife. We'll take them round to the neighbours in the next few days.
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We picked up around 10kgs of feijoas off the grass today. I say 'we' - It was my wife. We'll take them round to the neighbours in the next few days.
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I really need to get some trees planted. We moved in a couple years ago and I'm still sorting out where I want everything on the property. I do have some plum trees that were on the property before we built the house. The plums off them are fantastic, but they've never produced well. I think it's because they need to cross pollinate. My dad grafted in another variety of plum into the plum trees at my house. The grafts are a couple years old now so I'm hoping they flower and we get a bunch of plums this year. Eventually we'll get a couple apple trees and a peach tree planted. My parents have an apple press so we have an easy and delicious way to use a bunch of apples.
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Thank buddy! I lived on a 1/5 acre lot for 9 years and got a lot out of my square foot garden in that time, but it's definitely nice to have space. I've known people who lived in apartments and grew pepper in pots, but I good never get into do it when I was still in an apartment.
Mirin all the hard work and bountiful harvests
Hopefully one day I will have a home in the country and plant a garden
Did not know about Walipini, very interesting tech, love learning about that sort of thing
Hopefully one day I will have a home in the country and plant a garden
Did not know about Walipini, very interesting tech, love learning about that sort of thing
Not much to report on my garden from this weekend. The wind has just made it unpleasant to work outside the last few Saturdays. I did get some strawberries planted.
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04-25-2022, 02:51 PM
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We finally had a decent day here on Saturday. Spring has been cold and wet this year. The rain has been good. We have been in an extended drought. I have a ditch bordering my property and normally we are allowed to irrigate from the ditch once every 10 days. This year they have restricted everyone to once every 14 days due to the water shortage. Unfortunately, the cold weather really slows seed germination. That pea plant I called out up above actually turned out to be a weed. Still no peas up, we have some warm weather finally this week and I'll replant if I have nothing next weekend. On a more positive note:
Carrots are up. Spinach, too. I also transplanted a peony plant and spent some time with my dad while he showed me how he does grafts in trees. Here is one in an apple tree we did together:
I don't know the original apple tree variety. The apples produced by the original tree were OK, not great. Little by little he is converting it to produce apples he likes. The graft is a Jonagold. The tree already has established branches of Jonagold and Honeycrisp (and maybe one other). It will be a couple years before any of these grafts produce.
Here is a plum tree that has two grafts that took hold:
These grafted branches should produce this year and we're hoping having the two plum varieties adjacent to each other will result in good crops.
Carrots are up. Spinach, too. I also transplanted a peony plant and spent some time with my dad while he showed me how he does grafts in trees. Here is one in an apple tree we did together:
I don't know the original apple tree variety. The apples produced by the original tree were OK, not great. Little by little he is converting it to produce apples he likes. The graft is a Jonagold. The tree already has established branches of Jonagold and Honeycrisp (and maybe one other). It will be a couple years before any of these grafts produce.
Here is a plum tree that has two grafts that took hold:
These grafted branches should produce this year and we're hoping having the two plum varieties adjacent to each other will result in good crops.
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04-29-2022, 08:23 AM
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Peas are up for real now.
Some kind of critter pulled up a couple of the strawberries I planted a few weeks ago, and this morning I couldn't find the spinach plant that I'd found previously. Occasionally we'll get animals digging in the garden. Birds will pull up plants sometimes, too. If it continues, I'll have to get a bit more serious about pest control.
Some kind of critter pulled up a couple of the strawberries I planted a few weeks ago, and this morning I couldn't find the spinach plant that I'd found previously. Occasionally we'll get animals digging in the garden. Birds will pull up plants sometimes, too. If it continues, I'll have to get a bit more serious about pest control.
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04-29-2022, 08:26 AM
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I have a greenhouse of nepenthes with no climate control as of now. Once I own some dirt the plant empire will begin. Subbed for info.
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04-29-2022, 10:07 AM
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That's cool. I had to look them up, I wasn't familiar with that name. Pitcher plants I am familiar with. My brother is really into carnivorous plants and keeps a bunch of varieties. And cacti, he loves those, too. Welcome to the thread. I'm still getting rolling for this year, it's been a cold wet spring and things aren't growing much yet. We tilled up our main garden area this last week, but we're still at least a couple weeks out from planting squash, maybe a month for corn.
I have a greenhouse of nepenthes with no climate control as of now. Once I own some dirt the plant empire will begin. Subbed for info.
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04-29-2022, 10:48 AM
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We have a small raised kitchen garden out the back door and a snacking garden near the swimming pool for the children.
Kitchen garden: bell peppers, jalapeños, oregano/basil/thyme/rosemary/dill, mint (potted), tomatoes, cucumbers, zucchini, watermelon
Snacking garden: strawberries, sweet peas, Persian cucumbers, picnic peppers, cherry tomatoes, carrots
Kitchen garden: bell peppers, jalapeños, oregano/basil/thyme/rosemary/dill, mint (potted), tomatoes, cucumbers, zucchini, watermelon
Snacking garden: strawberries, sweet peas, Persian cucumbers, picnic peppers, cherry tomatoes, carrots
04-29-2022, 11:08 AM
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I planted an acer in a pot, I feel I can’t play this game
04-29-2022, 11:34 AM
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How big is your small kitchen garden? Peppers and spices don't take much space, but tomatoes, cucumbers, zucchini, and watermelon can be pretty big plants.
We have a small raised kitchen garden out the back door and a snacking garden near the swimming pool for the children.
Kitchen garden: bell peppers, jalapeños, oregano/basil/thyme/rosemary/dill, mint (potted), tomatoes, cucumbers, zucchini, watermelon
Snacking garden: strawberries, sweet peas, Persian cucumbers, picnic peppers, cherry tomatoes, carrots
Kitchen garden: bell peppers, jalapeños, oregano/basil/thyme/rosemary/dill, mint (potted), tomatoes, cucumbers, zucchini, watermelon
Snacking garden: strawberries, sweet peas, Persian cucumbers, picnic peppers, cherry tomatoes, carrots
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One of these?
I planted an acer in a pot, I feel I can’t play this game
https://www.amazon.com/Seeds-Palmatu...77511805&psc=1
This was my main garden last year:
Corn in the background, tomatoes, cucumbers, yellow squash, potatoes, and zucchini in the foreground. Squash to the left. The plan is to have two areas about this size this year. We will plant one entirely to corn and let the kids take care of it and sell it on the roadside this fall to make some extra money.
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04-29-2022, 11:40 AM
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Yes, that’s the one. Pretty isn’t it ?
I’m rather envious of your farm tbh, as an urbanite it just seems rather majestic
I’m rather envious of your farm tbh, as an urbanite it just seems rather majestic
04-29-2022, 11:55 AM
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I love it. Part of the fun for me is seeing plants I'm unfamiliar with.
Yes, that’s the one. Pretty isn’t it ?
I’m rather envious of your farm tbh, as an urbanite it just seems rather majestic
I’m rather envious of your farm tbh, as an urbanite it just seems rather majestic
I grew up in the country, went to college, then took my first job in a city and lived in the suburbs. My wife grew up in a small town so she likes rural living. We had the chance to move back to where I grew up three years ago and took it. There are certainly advantages to living in a more populated area, but I love the open space. There's been positives and negatives for my kids. My oldest son probably lost some academic advantages because he now goes to a school where his graduating class is <100. On the other hand, we talked him in to running track this year, something way outside his comfort zone and he never would have done at a big school. It's been so good for him. He's always been good in school, and I'm not worried about him there, track has taught him he can push his body harder than he thought possible. My younger kids transferred to country life seamlessly. When I work in the garden they follow me and look for worms.
The downside is there is lots of work. We are still getting things on the property set up. Most of the grass is planted, but tomorrow I'll be leveling the part that's left and planting. The end goal is to get things set up so upkeep isn't too bad.
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04-29-2022, 01:10 PM
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Nepenthes are Asiatic (indonesia mostly) pitcher plants. Sarracenia are American and found all over the southeast. In fact the southeast USA is one of the best places on earth to view carnivorous plants. Venus fly traps, pitcher plants, sundews, pings, bladderworts, all can be seen within driving distance of each other in the carolinas. Florida panhandle is GOAT for pitcher plants if your bro wants to take a road trip somewhere.
That's cool. I had to look them up, I wasn't familiar with that name. Pitcher plants I am familiar with. My brother is really into carnivorous plants and keeps a bunch of varieties. And cacti, he loves those, too. Welcome to the thread. I'm still getting rolling for this year, it's been a cold wet spring and things aren't growing much yet. We tilled up our main garden area this last week, but we're still at least a couple weeks out from planting squash, maybe a month for corn.
Its a rewarding hobby because it takes years for them to become mature. To witness a 10 year olds plants pitchers and flowers is a sign you are an expert grower.
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This will be a new norm of life since we won't be able to buy food in the US soon enough.
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04-29-2022, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted By FarmersSon⏩
Kitchen garden is 6’x12’ with a trellis on one side, snacking garden is 6’x6’
How big is your small kitchen garden? Peppers and spices don't take much space, but tomatoes, cucumbers, zucchini, and watermelon can be pretty big plants.
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In. I got 4 plants going right now in 1/3 soil, 1/3 perlite, 1/3 worm castings, 1 gallon pots. Only 5 days old atm.
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Originally Posted By freyja15⏩
Gotcha. That makes sense. The trellis can really help extend your space for plants that send a lot of vines.
Kitchen garden is 6’x12’ with a trellis on one side, snacking garden is 6’x6’
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Welcome to the thread!
In. I got 4 plants going right now in 1/3 soil, 1/3 perlite, 1/3 worm castings, 1 gallon pots. Only 5 days old atm.
Finally had some nice weather Saturday. I spent most of the day working on the yard. We're coming up on two years in our house. I got grass in around the house last year, but still need to get some planted in some areas away from the house. We have a water right to the ditch in front of the house and we flood irrigate the back yard. Last summer when we irrigated we could see there were some low spots in areas I'd already planted. There were other areas I held off planted because they were obviously low and would need some dirt.
Before:
(sod piled on the left is the start to a buried trampoline installation) Forgot to grab an after picture, but I used a surveyor's level from work and got things smoothed out so the variation from low to high spots was within a couple inches. Not perfect, but I can get the water 5 or 6 inches deep so it's good enough. I used a tractor with a scraper implement. Peas are still looking good. I almost replanted lettuce last weekend, but decided to hold off to see if the warm weather this week would get it up. Not sure what the problem was. Could be old seeds. When I replant I intend to use fresh.
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05-09-2022, 01:01 PM
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Peas are coming in nicely.
The 8 squares in the bottom right are all supposed to be peas, but I planted with two sets of seed packets. One was purchased new this year and the other was several years old. The general advice it to plant with fresh seeds, but I have actually had pretty good luck with seeds that are up to 3 or 4 years old. No idea how old the old seeds were, but that might be the problem with them. You can't see because the plants are small, but the carrots and spinach have actually come in pretty well now. The lettuce has not, and I will need to replant. No biggie, that's just what I get for being stingy and not replacing my seeds. I'll replant the peas that didn't come up, too. As the weather gets warmer the seeds I plant today won't be nearly as far behind the originals as someone might guess. Stuff you plant 4 weeks later in warmer weather might only end up 2 weeks or less behind.
Corn needs quite a bit of warmth to grow well. I usually do 2 varieties, one that comes to maturity quickly and his more cold hardy and another that will ripen later. Still probably a couple weeks out for the early corn.
The 8 squares in the bottom right are all supposed to be peas, but I planted with two sets of seed packets. One was purchased new this year and the other was several years old. The general advice it to plant with fresh seeds, but I have actually had pretty good luck with seeds that are up to 3 or 4 years old. No idea how old the old seeds were, but that might be the problem with them. You can't see because the plants are small, but the carrots and spinach have actually come in pretty well now. The lettuce has not, and I will need to replant. No biggie, that's just what I get for being stingy and not replacing my seeds. I'll replant the peas that didn't come up, too. As the weather gets warmer the seeds I plant today won't be nearly as far behind the originals as someone might guess. Stuff you plant 4 weeks later in warmer weather might only end up 2 weeks or less behind.
Corn needs quite a bit of warmth to grow well. I usually do 2 varieties, one that comes to maturity quickly and his more cold hardy and another that will ripen later. Still probably a couple weeks out for the early corn.
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05-12-2022, 12:38 PM
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I got out Tuesday evening and replanted the lettuce with newly purchased seeds. They should come up better now. Grabbed a photo of a peony plant that I transplanted a few weeks back:
Peonies are a perennial flowering plant that produce nice big fluffy flowers. This one produces white flowers and we've had it for 9 years. It was given to us by a neighbor when we had a death in the family. I guess that's a thing. I laughed at the time and told my wife the whole family would be traumatized all over again if I killed the plant. This is the third time we've transplanted it because of moving, etc. It was in a shady spot before transplanting and this has been a cold spring so it won't make it this year, but I put it in a sunnier spot and hopefully it will bloom mid-May next year - the deceased was born in May. This year I'll be lucky if it makes June 1st.
Not gardening related, but while I am out working my kids almost always join me. When I was planting my lettuce, my 6-year-old told me he had something to show me. I followed him over to the driveway and he pointed to a bird on the ground that wasn't flying away, even you got within a couple feet.
It's a killdeer. They nest on the ground and this one is sitting on 4 eggs. We're trying not to bother it, even though it's right on the side of the driveway. My kids thought it was pretty cool.
Peonies are a perennial flowering plant that produce nice big fluffy flowers. This one produces white flowers and we've had it for 9 years. It was given to us by a neighbor when we had a death in the family. I guess that's a thing. I laughed at the time and told my wife the whole family would be traumatized all over again if I killed the plant. This is the third time we've transplanted it because of moving, etc. It was in a shady spot before transplanting and this has been a cold spring so it won't make it this year, but I put it in a sunnier spot and hopefully it will bloom mid-May next year - the deceased was born in May. This year I'll be lucky if it makes June 1st.
Not gardening related, but while I am out working my kids almost always join me. When I was planting my lettuce, my 6-year-old told me he had something to show me. I followed him over to the driveway and he pointed to a bird on the ground that wasn't flying away, even you got within a couple feet.
It's a killdeer. They nest on the ground and this one is sitting on 4 eggs. We're trying not to bother it, even though it's right on the side of the driveway. My kids thought it was pretty cool.
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