Starfield release date was announced so far in advance and it still can't hit the date and just pushed back.

What is the point of release dates anymore? I swear every big game gets at least one delay and this was happening even before covid. Why cant they just wait until they are 100% sure and announce the date a few months ahead? Stop with this bs, I no longer believe any release date unless they announce the date they give is within a few months away

Who would be using "COVID" as an excuse for anything?

I swear they just killed all the clever/worthwhile people and then they just tell the general public "COVID".

Like wtf

Lol another fail for Xbox, no games.

Was so sure Bethesda were gonna hit it ... ffs.

Where have you been last 10 years?

I think they talk about a release date to generate hype and please investors. It's easier to hype up a large crowd and then sneakily delay release days later on than to just keep saying "coming out whenever it's done"

My sources are saying god of war ****norak (that’s what my top insider source called it) is being pushed to 2023.

With both Starfield and Redfall being pushed, this could lose Xbox the generation. I don't think they have any big releases slated for the year anymore.

Dude what. How is changing around dates helpful for investors? They would have the most reason to be pissed


A date in itself doesn't generate hype, use the actual game to do that.

Release dates are simply an outdated concept from when games were way easier to make. It is a complete joke now and has to go.

the Sony version of Jay

damn, that sucks. only game I was kinda excited for and actually wanted to get a new console for. they did it right with fallout 76, announce it and it was out a few months later from what I remember (too bad it sucked)

You didn't read my post. I said setting a release date pleases fans and investors and generates hype and income. Your statement about release dates not generating hype and "the game itself doing that" is dumb af. People are freaking out about Ragnarok because they're hoping it comes out at the end of this year as promised. By all means the studio really attempts to release it on time and I think most do.

However, if they don't finish on time they can delay it. Does this make fans and investors happy? No.... But it's still better than the alternative of saying "hey guys here's a game we're making, don't know when it will be done, maybe somewhere within the next 2-7 years hehe but please be excited for and invest in it, k cya when we cya"

release dates aren't for the gamers.

its for the big player shareholders. they want to see progress, they want to see dates, they want to see releases so their money goes up.

Cyberpunk's pushed to release was a move to please shareholders who starting growing angry when the game needed at minimum 2 more years for all the features they said would be in the game, so they released it and shareholders lost like 20-30% anyway because it was trash at launch.



if anything was about the gamer, they wouldn't be releasing half baked games with multi gig patches on release day + 25% to 50% content missing from the game with the promise of it being released later.

If it was only for the shareholders they could have done this internally. A huge part of it is for the gamers to generate hype and have the fans excited which will obviously also please shareholders. If you're really 32 you may remember how huge COD4 was and everyone being excited for MW2. A massive part of the advertising was the release date. It was plastered all over the fuking place and the hype for that date was crazy.

People aren't hyped about Ragnarok because of the release date, most people don't even believe it They're hyped because it is the sequel to a game of the year winner.

They didn't need to say a release date or year to get hype. They just needed to show the game.


For investors is no benefit either. It will only cause them to not believe things you say going forward.

Also any investor in Sony should understand the game business and not be hung up on specific dates anyway. Maybe a very loose calendar at best as long as you know what is in the pipeline

They hype will be there whenever you name the date. There is no reason to do it way too early and be wrong.

Especially cod is a dumb example, that is literally the best selling game every year. You think it has to do with announcing a fake release date.

You're a complete moron

So no TES 6 in this decade, I assume.

Todd said the release date was written in ink and not pencil

Knowing the release date and when to expect it is definitely adding levels of hype and I think you know this but are just trying to argue.

But even if you aren't and you just don't know, you must realise that devs have a reason they do it. There's no Jesus of videogames nor some established tradition that compels them to. This also applies to movies btw.

Even though I'm right I'll still agree to disagree with you because this is so obvious that it's just a boring convo to have.This isn't how advertising works. You want your fans to look forward to something. Will a great game still sell well due to its merits? Sure. Could it sell even more with great marketing? Hell yes.

lmao

on one hand, too bad

on the other hand, good. glad they didnt just push it outaccurate

wtf is this change of the goalposts, I never said dont market or advertise the game. By all means do that. show us the game. Give us trailers, and demos etc. Get us hyped.

All i'm saying is dont announce a date until you know the game is ready.

you know my most anticpated game? Final fantasy 16. They gave us a trailer and I liked it. They didnt need to keep naming dates and delaying it.

The funny thing about starfield is they havent shown us chit yet. All they have done is give a release date way ahead of time and they couldnt even hit it. just lol.

Well look at what happened to Advance Wars 1&2 reboot on the Switch.

It was supposed to come out last year... no delated until April of 2022... no that's now indefinitely delayed due to Putin invading Ukraine for some reason.

Just LMAO @ gaming in 2022

2007 was the last time MS had a good game lineup. Since it's literally only been Forza, Gears, and Halo. Pathetic srs.

Yeah I know, but Bethesda has always been pretty decent at hitting their release dates (with a small delay) .. I mean the time between them showcasing their next game and the release is usually a pretty short window. Fallout 4 is the best example, they debuted the game at E3 2015 so june? and then released it in november that same year.

One thing I'm extremely worried about is the size and scope of this game, knowing Bethesda it will be big and MS mandates that all games to everything under their eco-system IIRC, so how tf is a game like this gonna scale to Xbox one which is pretty much a potato at this point? unless i'm completely wrong and this is current gen only ... But one can imagine the monkey's at Bethesda banging their heads on the wall trying to get a game like this working on it.

Starfield is only for Series S and Series X.

The only cross gen games they have left are likely Grounded, As Dusk Falls, and (probably) Josh Sawyers smaller indie-like RPG

No idea what this game is about

But I. Might be dead before es6

Dead serious

The perception of delays is definitely going to be higher these days because of the adjustment to the pandemic, but I also could imagine that we'd still be seeing missed deadlines due to all around game complexity, mismanagement, and internal conflicts with developers/publishers. All of that in the wake of Cyberpunk's notorious release, which has probably shook everyone from devs to board members worried about being the next Cyberpunk if they don't delay.

Incidentally, we might be able to chock up Starfield's delay as being similar fear that it would bethat Starfield was shaping up to be the next Cyberpunk without a delay.I'm not really excited about Starfield, and some of my reasoning mirrors your own concerns in that whatever we are left to do in this world winds up being shallow and repetitive.

As foreboding as the idea that there were concerns at all of Starfield being "the next Cyberpunk," do they also understand the layers of problems with Cyberpunk that go deep enough that it wasn't *just* a collection of issues that further delays would resolve, but a fundamental lack of depth? If you set aside what it does right from a more linear, narrative perspective and instead compare it to the vision of an open world game experience, there was a profoundly lifeless side to the game.

With how little that they've revealed with Starfield, there is admittedly not much to gleam, but I don't see much beyond a pretty common, sci-fi veneer in the reveal trailer or concept art. Even the setting sounds like the most stereotypical sci-fi premise of two major intergalactic factions in a tenuous state of peace after a civil war that you just know is going to go pear shaped as soon as you get your feet wet in the game.

It's Bethesda's stated design direction favoring more realistic and relatively grounded sci-fi interpretations (down to drawing inspiration from SpaceX or calling their art "NASApunk") that kills my interest the most, though. Again looking at what they have shown us, the trailer and concept art pretty much fit whatever you could imagine of that made-up aesthetic. Likewise, "Grounded" or relatively realistic is definitely going to translate to pretty desolate, unexplored worlds alright.

But what makes the world's in The Elder Scrolls and the less fantastical Fallout so exciting is that they really *aren't* totally unexplored. There are ruins, vaults, and encampments that all signify everything between someone already having been there to entire civilizations that were lost to time. You want to explore these locations not just for the sake of stepping foot in a new patch of dirt no one else has ever pissed on, but because there is most likely something there that piques your interest and curiosity.

Based on Bethesda's own set patterns and trends, I'm worried that we're going to see them lean even more on all of the crafting, survival, and settlement fads as a draw to their unexplored worlds. I'm sure that we'll also see small settlements and what not, something that the concept art also shows at least, but most of what they've prevented - including the reveal trailer itself - still emphasizes the idea of rocketing off into space on a dangerous mission to explore... a dirtball. Some of what they've said in interviews has given me glimmers of hope, but I'm also working on all of thenothingthey've given us to actually be excited for when it comes to Starfield if we ignore what their other RPGs have done already given how different this one is supposedly going to be.

That was a travesty. After I looked It up. At first I thought it was some pc games bs..

Lmao, this is what happens when the whole studio "works" from home. Get them back all in one space where they can actually collaborate like normal fking humans and watch how much faster (and better) these games start coming out compared to launches from the last couple years.

And PC master race.