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post 1678576903 03-08-2023, 01:12 PM
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New desktop PC help?

Looking to get a new desktop PC as mine is 8 years old now and running a little slow. I don't really do anything special on my PC like gaming. I browse the misc. Usually have about 30 tabs open. Watch some videos and use some apps like ********/Slack/Discord/Office 365 etc. I know most of the options I am looking at will probably be more than what I need, but I want it to be a little future proof as well. I am looking at the all in one desktops as I don't have much space with a budget that I would like to stay around $1,200. Here are some options so far.

Asus for $1,100. I have an Asus laptop that I have enjoyed for a year or so now. No problems.
https://shop.asus.com/us/90pt0341-m0...sus-m3700.html


HP Pavilion customized would be around $1,300. My current desktop is HP and it's been solid for 8 years.
https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/pdp/3e9n0av-1-3e9n0av-1


MSI for $1,250. Don't know much about the brand. Have heard they make pretty good quality for cheap.
https://us-store.msi.com/Modern-AM272P-12M-254US

Or I could revert to the tower PC route as costco has a deal on an HP Envy tower for $999.
https://www.costco.com/hp-envy-deskt...000062262.html

This tower after buying a monitor and keyboard/mouse would probably put me over $1,300 but it looks like the specs are much better obviously. I'm more interested in the All in Ones though. Any solid advice and I'll rep.
What are you on about mate?
post 1678577113 03-08-2023, 01:16 PM
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The first three are absolute dog chit.
Out of those four I would get the HP Envy at costo. 32gb ram and decent video card. That will get the job done for what you need.


There is a microcenter by Chicago I believe I would check them out too.
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Originally Posted By nn586
The first three are absolute dog chit.
Out of those four I would get the HP Envy at costo. 32gb ram and decent video card. That will get the job done for what you need.
I was afraid someone would say this, but I'm really trying to save space and get away from a tower. This is my current PC. I was under the assumption that any of these I posted would blow it out of the water.
https://www.newegg.com/hp-envy-750-1...82E16883283458

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post 1678577703 03-08-2023, 01:28 PM
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I disagree with avoiding Microsoft.

I will say tho, If you are looking for longevity out of this new PC: AIO & Laptops suffer from the same problem of lack of airflow and overheating components which = less life. So you may want to reconsider your stance on the tower PC's.

If u still dont care then id say just get a nice laptop and hook it up for a monitor at home.
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post 1678577773 03-08-2023, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted By OrdoAbchao
I was afraid someone would say this, but I'm really trying to save space and get away from a tower. This is my current PC. I was under the assumption that any of these I posted would blow it out of the water.
https://www.newegg.com/hp-envy-750-1...82E16883283458

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If you want a laptop I'd aim for at least 16gb ram, 32gb ideally. And if you have a microcenter near you I'd go with them cause if it has problems you can just drive in and have them fix rather than shipping it. Microcenter will have a ton of options for you if you go in they'll help you pick the best one for your needs.
post 1678577973 03-08-2023, 01:32 PM
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post 1678578123 03-08-2023, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted By imiscubb
believe me when i say this

avoid a desktop pc if you arent into pc gaming
avoid microsoft as an OS

if you have an asus laptop with no problems then get something apple/mac related

srs answer, thank me in another lifetime
I'm too old to be switching OS at this stage. I've been using Windows for most of my life at this point. Couple that with the fact that Apple is so expensive. I just tend to stay away now even though there is probably a decent amount of truth to your statement.
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Originally Posted By nn586
If you want a laptop I'd aim for at least 16gb ram, 32gb ideally. And if you have a microcenter near you I'd go with them cause if it has problems you can just drive in and have them fix rather than shipping it. Microcenter will have a ton of options for you if you go in they'll help you pick the best one for your needs.
I currently have a laptop. I'm looking specifically for a new desktop right now. I do have a MicroCenter down the street actually so maybe I'll drop in. Thanks
What are you on about mate?
post 1678578413 03-08-2023, 01:39 PM
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Nothing will be really be future proof outside of a Mac or Microsoft surface studio but those are crazy prices.
Dell do decent pc units.
Intel do a mini pc called NUC similar to Apples mac mini but you compromise on gpu upgrades like a tower unit.
post 1678578513 03-08-2023, 01:41 PM
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I just did this recently as Microsoft is phasing out support for windows(old versions) and my nerdy, it manager, gamer friend, told me to pay the extra and get the Msi.
They make mother boards he told me and reliable gamer stuff, so i bought it.
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post 1678578533 03-08-2023, 01:41 PM
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I recently bought this one when it was on sale (if you wait a while it probably will again), I believe I paid $1149. Works perfectly for my needs and can even run any game I have tried (but i am not a “hardcore” gamer) if worried about overheating, blow put the fan every few months. This replaced an older imac 27”
https://www.costco.com/dell-inspiron...100975163.html
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post 1678578623 03-08-2023, 01:42 PM
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the only reason to use windows is for gaming... i'm pretty sure

i grew up on windows too but it's really trash
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If all you do is browse the web and small sht would something like a mini PC work? Gets rid of the big tower and might be all you need.

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post 1678579633 03-08-2023, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted By Sil3nt1
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Gaming laptop (looking for desktop) that is about $1k above my budget.
Originally Posted By Uhyeahokay
Nothing will be really be future proof outside of a Mac or Microsoft surface studio but those are crazy prices.
Dell do decent pc units.
Intel do a mini pc called NUC similar to Apples mac mini but you compromise on gpu upgrades like a tower unit.
Thanks. Repped
Originally Posted By x-trainer
I just did this recently as Microsoft is phasing out support for windows(old versions) and my nerdy, it manager, gamer friend, told me to pay the extra and get the Msi.
They make mother boards he told me and reliable gamer stuff, so i bought it.
Costco
Awesome. It looks like Costco doesn't carry the All in One MSI desktops. Repped
Originally Posted By desslok
I recently bought this one when it was on sale (if you wait a while it probably will again), I believe I paid $1149. Works perfectly for my needs and can even run any game I have tried (but i am not a “hardcore” gamer) if worried about overheating, blow put the fan every few months. This replaced an older imac 27”
https://www.costco.com/dell-inspiron...100975163.html
Currently $1,399 but I'm sure it will go on sale soon. Thanks
Originally Posted By gbullock32
If all you do is browse the web and small sht would something like a mini PC work? Gets rid of the big tower and might be all you need.

https://www.amazon.com/KAMRUI-AK1-Co...904010ad0&th=1
Wow, I might have to take a look into these as these might work.
What are you on about mate?
post 1678580623 03-08-2023, 02:12 PM
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Just get a M2 Mac Mini
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If you need it pretty much just for browsing:

16gb ram
1-2TB SSD
although it's not strictly necessary, get dedicated GPU. 3060 or 3060 Ti (or the AMD equivalent). Considering you aren't gaming, that's future-proofing enough for you
Intel i7 11700 (11th gen) or i5 12th gen

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Originally Posted By steeler505
If you need it pretty much just for browsing:

16gb ram
1-2TB SSD
although it's not strictly necessary, get dedicated GPU. 3060 or 3060 Ti (or the AMD equivalent). Considering you aren't gaming, that's future-proofing enough for you
Intel i7 11700 (11th gen) or i5 12th gen

You really dont need more.
why 3060 TI for a guy who said he's not interested in gaming?
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Originally Posted By ninetynine8
why 3060 TI for a guy who said he's not interested in gaming?
costs practically the same as a 3060
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I've repped too many today. Will come back in tomorrow. I'm looking at these mini pc's now and they seem to be a compromise between a desktop and an All in One which I am cool with. This one has some good reviews. I have a really dumb question though. For something like below, would I be able to plus my desktop speakers in? Currently my speakers are plugged into an audio out jack and this one looks like it may be an audio in? Quick google search doesn't really tell me much.

https://shop.asus.com/us/asus-expertcenter-pn52.html
What are you on about mate?
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There is a young local guy here that repairs computers and sets up business. I had him build me one from things he was able to
get cheap on Black Friday. It turned out much cheaper and a way better quality than ordering one.
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https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-IdeaCe...2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1

Looks decent. It comes with a keyboard and mouse. It can be used for anything and will last you 10+ years granted it's taken care of and parts aren't faulty, etc. 32GB of RAM so you can have all the tabs open & programs running you want. 4K movies (or gaming) is no issue. Video rendering? Consider it finished yesterday.

Here are the cheap recommended monitors:
1)https://www.amazon.com/Sceptre-E248W...773ZY26F&psc=1
2)https://www.amazon.com/Sceptre-Profe...7H8P9QX2&psc=1

edit: this PC is better than mine.
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Originally Posted By OrdoAbchao
I've repped too many today. Will come back in tomorrow. I'm looking at these mini pc's now and they seem to be a compromise between a desktop and an All in One which I am cool with. This one has some good reviews. I have a really dumb question though. For something like below, would I be able to plus my desktop speakers in? Currently my speakers are plugged into an audio out jack and this one looks like it may be an audio in? Quick google search doesn't really tell me much.

https://shop.asus.com/us/asus-expertcenter-pn52.html
tech specs


Side(Front) I/O Ports
1 x USB 3.2 Gen1 Type C, 2 x USB 3.2 Gen1, 1 x Audio Jack (Line out/ Mic in/ Headphone out)


you can be bad with computers but still know how to read
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Originally Posted By steeler505
costs practically the same as a 3060
yeah but given his budget wouldn't it be better to just go as ham as possible on the cpu with integrated graphics?
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Originally Posted By steeler505
tech specs


Side(Front) I/O Ports
1 x USB 3.2 Gen1 Type C, 2 x USB 3.2 Gen1, 1 x Audio Jack (Line out/ Mic in/ Headphone out)


you can be bad with computers but still know how to read
Sorry. I looked under the Audio in Tech Specs and looked at the pics that show headphones and a mic on the jack.
What are you on about mate?
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Just get a NUC or other mini PC and mount it to the back of the monitor. Pair with a wireless mouse and keyboard and you'll have a sleek system that should meet all the needs you described.
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Originally Posted By Gronnie
Just get a NUC or other mini PC and mount it to the back of the monitor. Pair with a wireless mouse and keyboard and you'll have a sleek system that should meet all the needs you described.
This is the route I'm leaning right now.

https://shop.asus.com/us/asus-expertcenter-pn52.html

This one for $699. Maybe I'll upgrade the RAM as well so it will put me at around $800 before Monitor/mouse and keyboard.
What are you on about mate?
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I would literally just buy an iPad and a keyboard in your situation
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Originally Posted By ninetynine8
yeah but given his budget wouldn't it be better to just go as ham as possible on the cpu with integrated graphics?
I'd agree with you, but honestly maybe we're both wrong and he should just go mediocre and get average cpu with integrated

from the looks of above, he is literally just tryna browse
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Looking at the Asus (well known brand but more $$$) or this minisforum which has better specs at a better price.

https://shop.asus.com/us/asus-expert...7&storage=1510

https://store.minisforum.com/collect...43300968825077

Anyone have experience with the minisforum?
What are you on about mate?
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Originally Posted By OrdoAbchao
Looking at the Asus (well known brand but more $$$) or this minisforum which has better specs at a better price.

https://shop.asus.com/us/asus-expert...7&storage=1510

https://store.minisforum.com/collect...43300968825077

Anyone have experience with the minisforum?
I don't personally have any experience with it but watch the video from Level1Techs. If Wendell says it's good I would trust that in a heartbeat.
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Originally Posted By Gronnie
I don't personally have any experience with it but watch the video from Level1Techs. If Wendell says it's good I would trust that in a heartbeat.
Actually ended up going with the BeeLink SER6 Pro which is pretty comparable to the minisforum in a bunch of youtube reviews. It was on a lightning deal today from the Beelink amazon store (easy returns in case of problems). $545 with an extra $40 coupon they tack on the deal. I think it will be more than enough for me. I'm more concerned on updating drivers and BIOS stuff that I'm reading as I'm pretty computer illiterate. Also transferring everything from my current PC to this new one I'm sure will also cause me a headache.

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What are you on about mate?
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