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post 1681723653 04-29-2023, 10:16 AM
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April 30, 1975 The Fall of Saigon

Good friend was in Saigon that day.










How history repeats.



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post 1681723913 04-29-2023, 10:23 AM
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There are a few parallels.

The majority of US troops left both countries years prior, the final evacuations marked the end of the war. Time will tell with Afghanistan but hopefully they find the relative peace that Vietnam has.
post 1681724253 04-29-2023, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
There are a few parallels.

The majority of US troops left both countries years prior, the final evacuations marked the end of the war. Time will tell with Afghanistan but hopefully they find the relative peace that Vietnam has.
Vietnam did have a major conflict with China for one month in 1979 that resulted in 50,000+ killed. There were continued small battles until 1991.
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post 1681724343 04-29-2023, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted By keyboardworkout⏩
Vietnam did have a major conflict with China for one month in 1979 that resulted in 50,000+ killed. There were continued small battles until 1991.
Crazy the lies we were told about how Communists were united against the US.......
post 1681724673 04-29-2023, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Crazy the lies we were told about how Communists were united against the US.......
The truth is that Vietnam just wanted independence form their occupiers: China, Japan, France, US, and China again.
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post 1681725133 04-29-2023, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
There are a few parallels.

The majority of US troops left both countries years prior, the final evacuations marked the end of the war.Time will tell with Afghanistan but hopefully they find the relative peace that Vietnam has.
Because Afghanistan has historically been so peaceful? And all they need now is Americans gone to go back to all that tranquility?
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post 1681725233 04-29-2023, 10:49 AM
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At the time, Vietnam was considered the worst foreign policy defeat. But nowadays, it looks like a typical end result for USA foreign policy. We haven't won a war outright since World War II (Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan)
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Originally Posted By QuentinSutpen⏩
At the time, Vietnam was considered the worst foreign policy defeat. But nowadays, it looks like a typical end result for USA foreign policy. We haven't won a war outright since World War II (Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan)
Who was Operation Dessert Storm?
post 1681726893 04-29-2023, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted By QuentinSutpen⏩
At the time, Vietnam was considered the worst foreign policy defeat. But nowadays, it looks like a typical end result for USA foreign policy. We haven't won a war outright since World War II (Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan)
we won persian gulf war outright and the 2003 invasion we destroyed the army, put in our puppet state government, and still have troops and state department on the ground there. not a loss at all. definitely not a war that totally went our way, but we won by every strategic merit
post 1681729323 04-29-2023, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
Because Afghanistan has historically been so peaceful? And all they need now is Americans gone to go back to all that tranquility?
It's hard to say what Afghanistan would look like today without all the meddling by Britain, the Soviets and the US but they seemed to be doing alright until the late 1970's.

As I said, time will tell. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Originally Posted By IronFelix13⏩
Who was Operation Dessert Storm?
That wasn't a war. That was a police action on par with USA invasion of Grenada in the 1980s
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The instigators.

JFK, McNamara, Taylor

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post 1681774283 04-30-2023, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted By QuentinSutpen⏩
That wasn't a war. That was a police action on par with USA invasion of Grenada in the 1980s
But who was Highway of Death?

I was there and saw the aftermath of it... pretty grisly for something that wasn't a war.
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