Got my blood test results back from Sept 13. Almost collapsed when I saw the number: 1179 ng/dL test level. I think that's higher than than when I was 22. On Nov 2 of last year (so ~10 months ago) I had a blood test come back with 761 ng/dL for testosterone. I recall an older one being 651 or so.


At the end of the day it all comes down to diet and lifting. Here are the changes I made in my life between the 761ng/dl result and the 1,179 result:

Food
* Adopted a "mostly" carnivore diet. Specifically I made sure to eat some quantity of red meat (ruminant animal meat or organs) every single day, usually steak or ground beef.
* Six eggs per day. Doesn't have to be all at once
* Went from almond milk back to cow milk. But I make sure I get grass-fed cow milk
* In addition to eating red meat, then supplement it with fish, chicken, pork, duck, and aforementioned eggs.
* I tried to eat mackeral or sardines every single day, but that got real old real fast. I've seen doctors say that one can eat mackeral, sardines or anchovies every day without worrying about heavy metal toxicity, but still
* With meat being ~85% of my diet, rest is a mix of yogurt, tree nuts, and veggies.
* Treat sugar like it's absolute poison

Workout
* Adopt a 3 day routine, with occasional rest days
* One day for the compound lifts (squats, deads, bench, chinup, and seated cable row).
* One day for shoulders (srs).
* One day cardio.
* Focused on form rather than strength building, sort of. I had previously done Starting Strength for like 9 months (back years ago) and realized that even though I'd gotten to a satisfactory plate # for squats, my form was atrocious. Same with deads. So I hit the reset and try to do as many reps with perfect form, rather than adding more & more weight. Only recently have I started gradually increasing my squat & dead amount since "reseting"

Supps
* 2000IU of Vitamin D in the morning, and another 2000IU of it at night
* 15mg of Zinc in the morning, another 15mg at night
* For a brief period back in July I took tongkat ali, ashwaganda, and fenugreek after reading more books/docs on which supps supposedly help & don't help
* I think Fenugreek really does increase test, so I still take it but on a month-on and month-off basis (600mg morning, 600mg night). I am cautious with it only because I've read about people complaining about breast tissue increase, which I totally don't want.


At the end of the day, upping my dietary cholesterol, Vit D, and animal fat content in my diet likely had the biggest impact. Best advice I can give the guys on this forum that are 20 years younger: Take care of your body and your body will take care of you. Eat quality grass-fed meat and do lifts with proper form and you're golden.

Correct me if I'm wrong but your levels were already good?

What inspired this change or was it just a side effect of general lifestyle changes.

What do your cholesterol numbers look like?

I thought you said you got on trt a while ago or was that someone else

Any tangible difference in day to day life?

Worrying about having high test levels solely so you can get high numbers on a piece of paper seems silly.

you do realize having high test levels isnt good for the body .

average test levels 350 till 500 .. anything higher will start effecting your internal organs adversley as you age

Stats?

Not true. It depends on your free testosterone. Free testosterone is biologically available to use by your body. Having high testosterone doesn’t mean anything.

What changes did you experience? Did you get harder erections? More morning wood? Hornier?

ffs dont speak donkey, go read what free test is.... high test. means everything ... take ttwo mins of your time and do some readings ... youll understand how test effects the body... high test levels are directly associated to special kind of cancers in men and in women

Don’t speak donkey? The idea behind binding testosterone is a mechanism to prevent what you’re claiming. Even if you increase your test to 2000, your SHBG goes up along with it. Not only that as you age, SHBG goes up naturally.

Imagine when you're 14 jerking off only you now have the capacity to smash aa many times at ,42. Islam was right about eom n.

I literally do pretty much all of this and I think I have low test (never been diagnosed), but I have some symptoms (baby face, patchy beard)

Yeah,except when I was 1200 it was 250 enth twice a week

1200 isn't normal, and not good long term

Cholesterol:

A year ago
LDL was 88
HDL was 65
Triglycerides was 44

Now
LDL is 112
HDL is 82
Triglycerides is 43


So yes there was a noticeable jump for HDL and LDL. But nowhere near a danger zone for LDL (the "bad" cholesterol). Also, every carnivore/keto person out there admits that your cholesterol will increase somewhat, but that your tri's are the real indicator of poor health.
How so

so which of these things influenced your test levels?

Mirin. Your glow up thread inspired me greatly years ago.

Watch your ApoB levels though. I know carnivore dudes will say it and ldl are no big deal, but I’d disagree. Peter Attia is very pro statin, as keeping ApoB low enough over long enough should prevent any atherosclerosis from forming.

Height and weight fgt

Welcome to the HTC

no you didnt. shut the **** up

Nice!

I have to lay off red meat due to fatty infiltration of my liver, but like the rest.

you absolutely have no idea what your talking about...... so ok.pdf

Yeah I have no idea. Right. It doesn’t matter how much test your body is producing if it’s bound due to SHBG and unusable.

test influences growth of blood vessels which is a primary factor in tumor growth so I could see a causal link.

I'd rather not step outside my body's natural checks and balances. I understand that there are some in which their body has already betrayed them.

Bullsh*t lol

you do realize using medical acronyms doesnt make you look smartnop

Ok so you want me to type Sex Hormone Binding Globulin? Doesn’t make you any less wrong. I’m not trying to look smart.

Love when people chime in saying something is bad and dangerous but instead of posting information they whine and say "go look it up!"

LOL

Good post OP, have you tried raw milk instead of pasteurized?

test's affect on cancer isn't well studied...or known but that doesn't mean there isn't a causal link. It has been PROVEN that tumors grow faster with more circulation, uncontrollable. It has been PROVEN that test dramatically increases tissue vascularity.

2+2=4

https://news.cancerresearchuk.org/20...k-of-melanoma/

Ever notice more skin tags from test use? Imagine if you got skin cancer....the test would directly support its growth.

I like how the poor always complain about the rich not paying taxes. They also complain the government doesn’t give them more free stuff. The rich pay for most of the government spending and the poor don’t and just take from the government. **** the poor go get a better job and life.