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post 1691365803 10-09-2023, 08:21 AM
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Why are people from other countries so sure about who the bad guys are in war?

Take Ukraine and Russia for instance

Pretty much everyone is on the "Fuk Russia" bandwagon, but wtf do us Americans, cut off from most of the world and focuses on our own country a vast majority of the time, know about the happenings in foreign wars?

It's like people think Putin just started to twirl his non existent villain mustache and go "You know what? I'm gonna start a war today", and then went in on Ukraine.

Now maybe they are the bad guys here, or maybe there were strategic reasons why they should have chosen war. What do I know? What does anyone, barring those in the know higher up in our government, actually know about who is right or wrong in these foreign conflicts?
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Because they are sheeple easily influenced by propaganda/their environment who lack critical thinking skills

A good example is the movie Red Dawn. People in the USA were insurgents when their land was invaded and everyone watching the movie cheered them on...

Now look at how the USA has invaded/ravaged other countries while WE ALL cheer them on........Let that sink in
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The problem is, people aren't as smart as you to even ask that question in the first place.

The Ukraine cheerleaders on here that have absolutely zero knowledge on Soviet/Post-Soviet history and relations with Ukraine just found a community they can finally be part of with extreme confidence because the US is supporting the side their mail order brides come from. Except they didn't realize that the US doesn't care at all about that side and that their mail order brides are banging me off Tinder - we're just in it for terrible reasons.
Originally Posted By dopamine72⏩
Because they are sheeple easily influenced by propaganda/their environment who lack critical thinking skills
This too.
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Palestine crew checking in.

Ukraine defend homeland = good
Palestine defend stolen homeland = bad

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People are retarded bro... we literally just finished a failed 20 year war on terror.
God forbid we spend 2 years conflict free.. nonono we have to go in now and do this chit over again... and worst part is normies are lapping it up
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post 1691366793 10-09-2023, 08:42 AM
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The fact of the matter is no matter how credible our sources are today we're still not getting all the information needed to form a valid conclusion about all of this

The only true conclusions we can come to right now is most humans are easily programmed by their environment and intellectually underdeveloped causing greed, hypocrisy, violence, hate, apathy and many other counterproductive thought processes which prevents us all from ascending to something greater in this world
Originally Posted By MrSchons⏩
Palestine crew checking in.

Ukraine defend homeland = good
Palestine defend stolen homeland = bad
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Here's where it gets tricky....There were bio-weapon labs on the border of Russia/Ukraineapparently...That is somewhat comparable to the Cuban Missile crisis...

Once again if this is True then we're being hypocrites

Like said above...NONE of us have all the info...Even the top gov. intelligence agencies in the world don't have all the info

This is 100% an information war and we have been in it for quite some time now

All it takes is a few pieces of info (fake or true) to completely 180 most anyone's opinion on something...

So which side really is the "bad guy"

Maybe its both sides since we're both slaughtering each other, including, innocent men, women, children...
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Originally Posted By dopamine72⏩
The fact of the matter is no matter how credible our sources are today we're still not getting all the information needed to form a valid conclusion about all of this

The only true conclusions we can come to right now is most humans are easily programmed by their environment and intellectually underdeveloped causing greed, hypocrisy, violence, hate, apathy and many other counterproductive thought processes which prevents us all from ascending to something greater in this world


Here's where it gets tricky....There were bio-weapon labs on the border of Russia/Ukraineapparently...That is somewhat comparable to the Cuban Missile crisis...

Once again if this is True then we're being hypocrites

Like said above...NONE of us have all the info...Even the top gov. intelligence agencies in the world don't have all the info

This is 100% an information war and we have been in it for quite some time now
Do you think if the US government were honest with its citizens on the real reason we choose our fights, that it would not go over well?
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
Do you think if the US government were honest with its citizens on the real reason we choose our fights, that it would not go over well?
100% I'd put my life savings on it

But I think most of us already know this lol
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If russia wins Ukraine then who do they take next? Then we’re right back to the Soviet Union. Ukraine is definitely not the bad guy.

Do you not like history opee?
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I don't think it's detached from public knowledge. It's not like the Middle East where relatively not much has changed with the monarch structure. We know a **** ton about Russia, while a vast number of idiosyncratic state, public, national, cultural, etc... issues often are embroiled or overlap in some fashion between the two countries with the Cold War.
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Originally Posted By MarinoMike⏩
If russia wins Ukraine then who do they take next? Then we’re right back to the Soviet Union. Ukraine is definitely not the bad guy.

Do you not like history opee?
Do you believe Russia's attack is for the sole purpose of expanding territory, and that if they win Ukraine, they'll go on a warpath of conquest?
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Just in time for election year!
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Originally Posted By Voidgaze⏩
Just in time for election year!
I think that's more chicken and egg. Naturally we're going to be talking about Russia and how we should deal with it when we're deciding who should take control of state affairs.
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Originally Posted By MarinoMike⏩
If russia wins Ukraine then who do they take next? Then we’re right back to the Soviet Union. Ukraine is definitely not the bad guy.
Do you not like history opee?
I always find it comical when someone doesn't question the previous actions of a country that's being attacked and ignorantly sides with them (possible Darwin award)
Ukraine War: Zelensky Embezzled $400 Million Allocated By The US For Purchasing Fuel – Seymour Hersh. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky embezzled hundreds of millions of dollars that the US allocated for the purchase of fuel, according to Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh.
https://www.eurasiantimes.com/ukrain...seymour-hersh/

USA APPARENTLY (keyword) admits to running bio-weapon labs:https://www.peoplesworld.org/article...raine-biolabs/

Oh look more corruption:https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/03/world...hnk/index.html

I am not on one side or the other, I'm simply clarifying how picking one side or the other is foolish

Also, LMAO @ thinking Putin is bringing the soviet back just lmaoooooo he's going to keep invading other countries eh???
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Originally Posted By dopamine72⏩
Because they are sheeple easily influenced by propaganda/their environment who lack critical thinking skills

A good example is the movie Red Dawn. People in the USA were insurgents when their land was invaded and everyone watching the movie cheered them on...

Now look at how the USA has invaded/ravaged other countries while WE ALL cheer them on........Let that sink in
Originally Posted By cobhc⏩
The problem is,people aren't as smart as you to even ask that question in the first place.

The Ukraine cheerleaders on here that have absolutely zero knowledge on Soviet/Post-Soviet history and relations with Ukraine just found a community they can finally be part of with extreme confidence because the US is supporting the side their mail order brides come from. Except they didn't realize that the US doesn't care at all about that side and that their mail order brides are banging me off Tinder - we're just in it for terrible reasons.



This too.
True.

FWIW there is already talk of some sort of attach on US soil, either genuine [open borders/sleeper cells] or a false flag to gin up the support of US citizens for a bigger war.
Originally Posted By dopamine72⏩
The fact of the matter is no matter how credible our sources are today we're still not getting all the information needed to form a valid conclusion about all of this

The only true conclusions we can come to right now is most humans are easily programmed by their environment and intellectually underdeveloped causing greed, hypocrisy, violence, hate, apathy and many other counterproductive thought processes which prevents us all from ascending to something greater in this world


Here's where it gets tricky....There were bio-weapon labs on the border of Russia/Ukraineapparently...That is somewhat comparable to the Cuban Missile crisis...

Once again if this is True then we're being hypocrites

Like said above...NONE of us have all the info...Even the top gov. intelligence agencies in the world don't have all the info

This is 100% an information war and we have been in it for quite some time now

All it takes is a few pieces of info (fake or true) to completely 180 most anyone's opinion on something...

So which side really is the "bad guy"

Maybe its both sides since we're both slaughtering each other, including, innocent men, women, children...
Yes.

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Originally Posted By MrSchons⏩
Palestine crew checking in.

Ukraine defend homeland = good
Palestine defend stolen homeland = bad

= Clown world
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Well in the case of Russia v Ukraine Americans in general have always been told Putin is a bad guy despite them having little knowledge of why. They tell me Putin = bad so yeah that's why I'm standing on this bridge on the other side of the world showing my support for Ukraine.
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Originally Posted By dopamine72⏩
Because they are sheeple easily influenced by propaganda/their environment who lack critical thinking skills

A good example is the movie Red Dawn. People in the USA were insurgents when their land was invaded and everyone watching the movie cheered them on...

Now look at how the USA has invaded/ravaged other countries while WE ALL cheer them on........Let that sink in
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[QUOTE=DolphinPilot post_id=1691368903]Well in the case of Russia v Ukraine Americans in general have always been told Putin is a bad guy despite them having little knowledge of why. They tell me Putin = bad so yeah that's why I'm standing on this bridge on the other side of the world showing my support for Ukraine.[/QUOTE][URL=https://www.sgtreport.com/2023/08/russia-releases-2000-page-report-proving-deep-state-big-pharma-manufactured-covid-pandemic/]https://www.sgtreport.com/2023/08/ru...ovid-pandemic/[/URL]

[QUOTE=TokenV post_id=1691369263][img]https://i.imgur.com/vxxmkyJ.gif[img][/QUOTE]loool
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Thinking there are 'good' and 'bad' sides in any war is literal retard tier, naive, childish thinking. Everyone has their own interests, they may align with your own or not, every army commits atrocities in war, morality is neither here nor there.
Originally Posted By dopamine72⏩
Because they are sheeple easily influenced by propaganda/their environment who lack critical thinking skills

A good example is the movie Red Dawn. People in the USA were insurgents when their land was invaded and everyone watching the movie cheered them on...

Now look at how the USA has invaded/ravaged other countries while WE ALL cheer them on........Let that sink in
Sticking up for your own people, it's not difficult to understand. Who cares about objectivity.
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
Do you believe Russia's attack is for the sole purpose of expanding territory, and that if they win Ukraine, they'll go on a warpath of conquest?
Homie I have no ****ing idea how to answer that.
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- NATO made promises post USSR break up not to expand
- Russia warned that expansion of NATO would be grounds for war
- NATO adds 4 additional satellite countries after promising not to
- NATO looks to add Ukraine next
- US overthrew Ukraine president in 2014 installing new Puppet government
- US and NATO put Russia in position they must go to war or go back on their promises

US and west WANT proxy war with Russia to wear them down and deplete their resources prior to upcoming war with China. This is preferable to the west rather than face China and Russia at the same time. The young slavic men at the boarders are the pawns in this game and their lives expendable.

The US benefits the longer the war drags on because it further depletes Russia's resources and ability to assist China in the future. The US assisting ukraine just increases the casualties on both sides. If the west never intervened then Ukraine on their own could never win and would be forced to negotiate a peace treaty with Russia which would have spared thousands of lives. Who cares if they give up some slice of land, look at a map and realize that it was part of the soviet union and russian empire the majority of the last few hundred years.



Western Media official story: Putin woke up in a grumpy mood one day and decided to invade Ukraine for no real reason other than he was just born evil.
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
Do you believe Russia's attack is for the sole purpose of expanding territory, and that if they win Ukraine, they'll go on a warpath of conquest?
Russia won't invade the Baltics, Poland or any other NATO countries, they aren't stupid. These are just the fever dreams of rabid Atlanticists. That said, they probably would invade the Baltics if it weren't for NATO.
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Well with Russia or China I kind of understand since they are our enemies, but I don't get why all of these companies are standing with Israel or why some people are siding with Palestine to be contrarian. I think TikTok has made it worse because this battle has been going on for years but now in 2023 every jackass with a phone feels justified in voicing their opinion. I can somewhat see why people would have an opinion on Ukraine vs Russia but this is a bit much. We have enough problems. I mean sucks that they've been fighting forever but taking sides in a biblical war that has nothing to do with us is a new low for Americans. I'd go as far as to say that as a Palestinian, Mia Khalifa has more right to state an opinion than half of the people chiming in.
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Muzzlrpress attacked my family smh
no doubt it was justified
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